Withdrawal from Iraq and Ammo

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Now that we have a timetable for a gradual withdrawal from Iraq, will ammo prices begin to decrease for you and I as our presence their is reduced and more and more soldiers come home?
 
No one can answer that one.

If they can they better be buying lottery tickets instead of posting here.
 
Oh, I didn't realize it was so economically complex. I thought maybe civilian prices would be reduced if the military wasn't hording the supply.
 
Any boots on the ground coming out of Iraq will be heading due East so don't expect lower ammo prices in your lifetime.
 
Any boots on the ground coming out of Iraq will be heading due East so don't expect lower ammo prices in your lifetime.



That's scary!
 
Well there is the basic rule of supply and demand.

My opinion is that manufacturers are ramped up to make X amount of ammo annually and employ X amount of people.

As the demand in Iraq dwindles I doubt the manufacturers will want to cut their production. They'd rather sell 16 trillion rounds a year for a little less money than to sell 8 trillion rounds. (Hypothetical numbers of course)

I've been in a wholesale business for 14 years. Everytime a demand drops in one market we look for another market to fill, even if we have to cut prices a little. We track the number of units sold as aggressively as the profit dollars made on each unit. And we sell about 700 million "units" annually.

It could be completely different in the ammo market; I have no experience there except as a consumer. :D

Anyway, let's keep our fingers crossed that:

A: We get out of Iraq safely and successfully.

B: My theory is correct and ammo prices drop. ;)
 
Well, I know we are going to be rerouting troops to Afghanistan, but I doubt they will ALL go. I'm sure of the 130,000 or so troops in Iraq, not much more than half will be sent to the 'stans.
 
I don't think America is quite done fighting yet

I don't believe the US has stopped fighting somewhere since 1776.
Ammo question: I don't know. I don't buy it anyway. I like the "roll-your-own" ammo a lot more.
BTW: Has anyone notice the .223 once fiired brass is out of stock on a couple of web sites I visit. I figure it's because of cheap steel case Wolf ammo.
 
Well, I do plan on reloading in the future. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or space to undertake the hobby yet.
 
The process of leaving Iraq will surely mean buying even more ammunition from Russia for the Iraqi military. I don't think that will be getting cheaper any time soon.
 
The process of leaving Iraq will surely mean buying even more ammunition from Russia for the Iraqi military. I don't think that will be getting cheaper any time soon.
That wouldn't keep domestic prices high though...
 
Now that we have a timetable for a gradual withdrawal from Iraq, will ammo prices begin to decrease for you and I as our presence their is reduced and more and more soldiers come home?

Uhh, you need to read the news closer. They are not coming home, the buildup is on in Afghanistan, in bigger numbers than people realize.
 
Oh, I didn't realize it was so economically complex. I thought maybe civilian prices would be reduced if the military wasn't hording the supply.

It's not just a matter of military holding supply - there's about a bazillion other factors involved as well. Everything from commodities pricing (which, if you can forecast that, you'd be rich) to market conditions (how much pain can people endure for that box of .223 ammo?).
 
Yea, right. America is pulling out of the gulf, and I'm the Queen of Sheba. The Unknowing Sheeple of America (USA, for short) will believe that until those dirty rotten Iranians start lobbing missiles at Israel, and (surprise, surprise) we suddenly realize that those hardened military bases we've built in Iraq are oh-so much more convenient than operating out of Diego Garcia. Oh. What?? Wait a minute.... Oh yea; that's exactly WHY we've been bothering with this little foray in Iraq. You can believe whatever you want, but DOD has no intention of abandoning the structures of our occupying presence in that area, that have come at a cost of 3 Trillion dineros.
Our nation needs to experiment with a little exercise known as waking up. Iran has built a Naval base at the Straits of Hormuz. Syria and Libya are rolling out the welcome mat to the Russian Navy, just as that Navy is being evicted from the Ukraine. Iran intends to begin launching against Israel ASAP, with a lot of help from N. Korea, Russia, and a cast of other characters.
Closer to home, Venezuela is working a nuclear deal with Russia right now, and the Russians are back in Cuba. Johnny certainly will be marching, but he's not coming home.
As for the domestic ammo supply, get 'em while you can.
 
And if anyone wants to understand the geostrategic imperatives of energy reserves and what it means for global conflict and who might become fast friends with whom, Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard" will help you understand it.
 
Ok, Ok. Politics of war aside... While we may not leave Iraq, there will at least be SOME troop reduction. All I wanted to know was if they came home, if ammo prices might go down.
 
Ok, Ok. Politics of war aside... While we may not leave Iraq, there will at least be SOME troop reduction. All I wanted to know was if they came home, if ammo prices might go down.

Since you've gotten plenty of long answers - the short one is "don't count on it."
 
No, it won't, until there is ammo stacked up at the distributors waiting for a buyer to come along. Let's face it, right now, anything that shoots is being sold and there's people waiting for more. If by some chance Someone Sets Up Us The Ban then ammo becomes even more expensive, then it becomes valueless.
 
I wasn't buying ammo at the time, so one of the oldsters will have to think back. During Gulf War I, did ammo prices spike, and did they fall after then end of the conflict?

jm
 
Glancing into the crystal ball I call the "commodities market" I would guess that prices would either fall or remain steady independent of any supposed war activities or withdraws/ surges. Of course the bulk price of raw material is just one factor of production and another factor might raise or lower the price a notch or two. Keep in mind ammo prices are very high relative to five years ago and low compared to 12-15 years ago.
 
When barry takes over their will be no more war, no more crime so their will be no need for ammo so the price will be what it is plush the 500% tax, so you will not be able to afford it.:neener:
In other words the people are used to paying this much that it may go down a little but not much.
 
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