Wolf .40 S&W ammo

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I was given 500 rounds of Wolf .40 S&W because a friend sold his .40
I was shooting it out of a HK USP. If I shot 10 rounds, I would get at least one jam....the steel cases were cracking and expanding and jamming so that it took a screwdriver to pry them out. Anyone else had this problem. The USP that I shoot can digest any ammo that it is fed....except this Wolf ammo. I have never shot Wolf in any other gun or caliber and was wondering if this was a common problem or if this was just a bad batch?

(I reload, so I won't be shooting steel cases again anytime soon.)
 
I shoot wolf .45 ACP and .223. It works fine for me. Then again, I shoot the wolf through a 625 revolver and the .223 goes through a Saiga. No problems so far. I've heard bad reports (most because it was some Russia), but the only one I'm hoping Wolf improves upon is their .308.
 
I have a friend who had the same problem with Wolf 40 S&W ammo in his Ruger. The cases would stick in the chamber and have to be punch out.
 
I've shot Wolf ammo from my USP45 and GLOCK 21. These guns ate them, but dirty as hell! :eek:
I paid a little more for WWB, but I do less work cleaning my guns.
 
tried the .40s in my 646 revolver and if you shot more then one the whole bundle would not eject without pounding it out. Never again!!!
 
No wolf for this gunnie

I simply can bring myself to feed any of my handguns Wolf. I know several gunnie friends that use the stuff, and don't complain about it. My guns are special......... why? Because their mine!:)
 
Wow, I had nothing but good experiance with Wolf in my CZ 75B. No sticking, no splitting, reasonably accurate, bang every time, fed every time, ejected every time, didn't smell bad, not a lot of flash, and not very dirty. Maybe there's a differance in chamber specs? Or maybe I just got a good batch?
 
I had my Wolf .40 gave to me also so I did shoot it through a S&W 4046. No issues at all as these 3 rd. generation S&W stainless autos seem to digest everything. The friend who gave me the ammo was using a Glock 35 without issues also.
 
I hear a lot of people say they have put thousands of rounds of Wolf through their pistols and it is great. That being said I wouldn't put the crap through any of mine.
 
Wolf

I've shot their 9mm, 30 Carbine, and 9mm Mak - never a problem - I think I had a fail to fire in the CZ 75, but another strike from the DA hammer send it down range. The 9mm shot as well as anyting I've used - all of it has. Oh yea - plenty of AK ammo also - NO problems!
 
Wolf is bad stuff send it to me for safe and proper disposal.

I find Wolf .40 S&W to be the most problematic, but only one of my guns has extraction/ejection issues with it ((RAP440) but many of my double stack mags have problems feeding it, the cases have just enough extra friction to make double stack mags in .40 and .45 problematic and very sensitive to dirt/fouling.

If you leave your chamber wet with oil after cleaning, Wolf will give you fits for sure until its all gone -- don't think lubrication, think suction cup.

Not all guns work with all ammo and vice-versa.

The price differential on Wolf is in my opinion no longer enough to make it worthwhile as even if you don't reload you can sell your once-fired brass and make the net price of on-sale brass cased ammo end up lower than Wolf. This wasn't the case 8-12 months ago.

--wally.
 
When was the last time you see HK owners complaining about feeding, extraction, or return to battery or jamming problems? Think very hard.
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Well, I guess that would have to be at 12:45pm today. :D

I was shooting it out of a HK USP. If I shot 10 rounds, I would get at least one jam.
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hahahaha...in all fairness, the only reason the gun jammed was because the steel cases cracked and expanded. But it is pretty funny that you pointed out that comment.
 
I hear nothing but bad things about Wolf...steel cases cracking resulting in countless jams. Although my experience with Wolf is they use cheap crap powder.my gun had never been dirtier and I only shot 20 rounds :cuss: I'll never use it again in any of my guns not even if someone tried to give me them for free.
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ive shot wolf in 30 carbine (3,000 or so rounds), 7.62x39 (about 4,500) and 9mm (about 900 rounds) without a serious problem. it is pretty dirty tho (especially the 30 carbine). a year ago or so i didnt mind the extra cleaning because the price was so low. now, the 9mm isnt really that much cheaper then wwb around here, so i might as well shoot that. it is by far the cheapest 30 carbine i can find tho (less then $180 shipped [fulton armory] per thousand), so i will keep shooting it in that. i guess i have just had good luck w/ wolf.
 
Hmmm, I've shot well over 10,000 rounds of Wolf in a variety of guns and calibers and never seen a "cracked" case after firing. I'd like to see a photo to get an idea exactly what happened. There could be a problem with your gun that the greater ductility of brass is hiding, for now.

--wally.
 
when i say cracked, I mean the case mouth has a small crack maybe 1/8 or an inch. The crack runs lengthwise towards the primer end.

I have reloaded brass 4 or 5 times and shot it from this gun without ever seeing this.
 
when i say cracked, I mean the case mouth has a small crack maybe 1/8 or an inch. The crack runs lengthwise towards the primer end.
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That's exactly what I thought you meant. I see this a lot with brass that has been reloaded many times, Usually it happens when you expand the case to seat the bullet during reloading. As long as the crack doesn't run below where the bullet seats I'll generally shoot the round instead of discarding it, and then discard the brass case afterwards.

Never seen this in a Wolf case and I've shot over 4000 Wolf .45ACP cases that I've reloaded (I only reload them once, using a silver colored primer to mark them from the brass colored primers in the new). If you've another gun that shoots the same caliber ammo, using the same box of brass cased ammo measure the OD at the mouth of a case after firing from your HK and the another gun. If there is a significant difference with the HK being larger, you might have an oversize chamber. This may or may not be a problem, but obviously tolerences in chamber dimensions are a big part of the reason "not all ammo works in all guns and vice-versa". With a high pressure round like .40S&W I'd be much more concerned than with .45ACP. It the chamber is oversized enough to let hot gas blow by the bullet, it'll get worse pretty quickly.

--wally.
 
Vwery odd. I have limited exposure to Wolf in .40 and .45 ACP along with .380.
Once had a customized CZ75SA that when first tested. I put two Wolf .40
slugs side by side@ 27 yards, with the rest of the groups being equally impressive, so it can be very accurate.

My CZs have never complained. The newer polymer coated stuff is reported to be even better.

I wear a Wolf cap, and black t-shirts, along with my Wolf range bag:)
But opt for Blazer or WWB when possible.
 
Brass cases never crack in this gun though, even when reloaded 4 or 5 times. The steel wolf cases were cracking the first time.
 
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