Wolf ammo reliability??

[Med 10]

I am considering a bulk purchase of wolf ammo 7.62x39mm. Some folks have mentioned some problems with a shelac or varnish on the casings causing problems with the weapons operation. This will be fired through a VEPR k and a Norinco SKS.

I'm very concerned about this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[cordex]

Very few will advise against firing Wolf through AK and SKS clones. Regardless of the opnions about their other ammo, it shoots great in the Russian guns. Get it. Shoot it often.

 

[MAKOwner]

Wolf ammo works great in every Commie rifle I've run it through. It's the more finicky (subpar, cough, cough) US weapons that seem to have a problem with it. And I think that is largely an exaggeration. Alot of people believe steel cased ammo is harsher on the parts of the weapon too. I say if they have trouble the parts are inferior and too weak anyway. I have several thousand rounds of 7.62 and 5.45 through my AKs and SKS, and over a 1000 rnds of their 9mm through my Taurus 92AF with zero problems, and no signs of excessive wear on extractors and the like...

Coincidentally Wolf just came out with a new Polymer coating instead of lacquer that their new ammo will now have. Whether this is an admission that the Lacquer coated rounds everyone loved to hate were actually causing real problems or if it's just a change to avoid a bad rep, who knows. Don't know if that's only 7.62x39 or if it applies to all their calibers now. Haven't heard any range reports on how it's doing, just now hitting the market I think...

 

[Med 10]

Thanks for the replies. I believe its the new polymer coating they were refering to.

 

[Logistar]

Other than the lacquer (which won't be an issue anyway soon), I have only seen one other problem.

In my last 500 rounds, I found 2 rounds that appeared to have their primers seriously dented. The last one I noticed as I removed the round from a freshly opened box.

Neither round would fire of course. Other than that... no problems.

I like it. I can't tell any real difference between the Wolf and the expensive domestic stuff.

FWIW

logistar

 

[cwalker3]

Another satisfied customer of Wolf ammo checking in. I've shot thousands of rounds through my SKS', AK's and Glocks. Never a problem with any of it. The handgun ammo does tend to smell quite funky, but it's cheap ammo to practice with.

 

[Chipperman]

It's dirty and smells awful, but is otherwise fine for ComBloc guns.

 

[ny32182]

Its run fine in all the commie guns I've seen it run in... I just bought a case of it yesterday to use with my new vepr. I won't use it in any other caliber, but I think 7.62x39 is fine.

I wouldn't worry about it because of ejector wear though. Ejectors are usually ~$2 parts. Even if you had to buy a new ejector with every case, you'd still save money. I won't run it in American guns because of the laquer issues.

Russian ammo for Russian guns, American ammo for American guns. You will be good to go.

 

[Correia]

I've run thorough several cases of Wolf 7.62x39 with no problem.

 

[Murphster]

Ditto. Thousands of rounds through VEPR's, several AK's, and 4 SKS's.
They all went bang. Acceptably accurate. And I haven't found the 7.62 stuff to be all that dirty. The FMJ is my ammo of choice in those weapons.

 

[TNT]

Same here, thousands of rounds of various calibers and never a problem.

 

[Dave R]

Almost any other brand of ammo is more accurate in my AK. But then, every other brand is more expensive, too.

And reliability has been fine.

 

[ShaiVong]

I've only used it in my G22, and it worked great. Cant beat the price..

Somone here was saying they use it in their AR15, and has had no difficulty shooting Minute of Torso out to a couple hundred yards while taking carbine courses.

Unless your striving for 1/16" groups with a high mag target rifle, why pay more?

Buy more bullets and practice more. Save the Q3131A for when it matters.

 

[444]

I have fired it in something like six different calibers including 6000 + rounds through various AR15s.
I have not had a single problem with reliability from either the ammo or the gun. This hasn't always been the case with other domestic brands of ammo.


I have mentioned this a number of times previously and long ago became obnoxious about it, but I used Wolf .223 ammo in a carbine class. We fired approx. 800 rounds in a four day class. In the final qualification I had the best score in the class dropping only four points from a perfect score. The next closest was half my score. I also won the man on man shoot off. I got 8 out of 10 hits on a steel silhouette at 400 meters without magnificaiton. All using Wolf 55 grain ammo. All the targets were human silhouettes with scoring rings in the COM and head; this wasnt' bullseye stuff. The most challenging shots would be COM hits (approx 6"-8" circle) at 200 meters under pretty strict time constraints from any position of your choosing. The challenge really wasn't hitting the targets, but doing so within the alloted time.
The purpose of my telling this is not to toot my own horn. At the time I took this class, I had taken a more intense five day carbine course only a little over a month previously. I had also fired several thousand rounds in practice prior to and between these two clases, so I had at pretty good advantage over the other students; several of whom had never fired an AR15 in their lives and several who were complete gun novices. I was really up to speed on the drills and was totally confident of my zero and my sight dope. I seriously doubt I could duplicate that score today. It is simply to answer your questions and dispel any internet rumors about it's accuracy. I am not saying it is the most accurate load ever produced in any caliber, but it more than suffices for anything but the most demanding uses.

 

[Okiecruffler]

I've used up cases of 7.62X39 and 9mm with no problems and reasonable accuracy. The .223 stuff is another story completely. Best groups I've gotten with it was 5 inches at 100yrds.

 

[Wildalaska]

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[Med 10]

Well okay then, I guess I will place my order for some wolf ammo. I thank all of you for taking the time to post a reply to my concerns.

I also spoke to the folks at Wolf who told me if the ammo damages my VEPR then they will buy me a new rifle.

 

[twoblink]

I went through 2000 rounds of it through my SKS.. only 1 jam I can remember.

The stuff is DIRTY.. but hey, who cares...if you are shooting an SKS or AK no problems.. guns you actually value.. different story.

It's about MOP on good days and MOM on bad days..

MOP = Minute of Pieplate
MOM = Minute of Moose.

I changed the stock on my SKS and managed about 3MOA with a scope. Otherwise, its about 3-5 MOA. I get a flyer once in a while.

 

[LynnMassGuy]

1000's of rounds through my SKS with no problems as long as a use FMJ or HP.

 

[AJ Dual]

My friend and shooting buddy bought a case of Wolf .223 for plinking fodder for his Bushmaster Xm-15 with a 5.56 NATO chamber (not SAMMI .223). The first round chambered by slapping the bolt release would allways fire fine, and was comparable to other .223 such as Winchester white box, UMC, etc. in the rough accuracy department.

However all subsequent shots from the magazine would suffer partial feeds.

Tried it in my Colt MT AR-15 and had the exact same issue. He sold the rest of it to someone with a SAR 3 and that guy had no problem.

So I reccomend it as cheap plinking fodder for U.S. and western European guns, but with the caveat that you buy a small lot first for testing to see if your particualr gun will eat it.

For any former comblock imports, Wolf shoots like a champ.

 

[SteelyDan]

Since the question was reliability, not accuracy, the Wolf is just fine, thank you. And the accuracy, at least in the 7.62s, isn't really all that bad either, though it wouldn't be your first choice for something being scored. It will be interesting to see how the new non-laquered rounds pan out. Bottom line: Wolf ammo is what it is, it may allow you to shoot twice as much as if you were paying for other ammo, and it won't win any awards for accuracy or cleanliness but the problems in those departments are not all that important for practice ammo.