Wolf ammo,your honest opinion?

[2TransAms]

Cheap and dirty

Agreed on both counts,but I'm ok with that.

Rifle ammo is not exactly match grade,but it's fine for plinking. Even in AR's I haven't had a problem. Rumor is the steel cases are harder on the extractor but I've never actually seen that to be the case. I'm not sayin' it ain't true,but I suspect you'd have to shoot quite a bit for it to have a serious negative effect.

With handgun ammo,I don't really notice much difference in accuracy,but that may say more about my shooting skills than Wolf ammunition.

Dirty? Sure,but I clean my guns after I shoot. I've yet to see the lacquer build up and cause a catastrophic failure on anybody's gun.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Two Things

1) I was at a gun shoppe in Reno when one of the employees brought in his AR in a box -- in pieces. In the ensuing conversation it turned out that he had been shooting Wolf, had paused, and the next round failed to extract. He eventually had to use a torch to heat the barrel to get the casing out. He no longer shoots Wolf.

2) I was advised by the curmudgeons at my local gun shoppe in Carson City that Wolf is not recommended in the M1 Carbine as it's hard on the extractor. His comment was, "Wolf is fine if you shoot it in guns designed for it; American guns are designed to shoot brass-cased ammo."

I am not an expert nor a gunsmith, however, I took these two data points to heart, and I do not shoot Wolf.

Now, if I get a Saiga, then game on. But not in my USA-built arms.

 

[ndh87]

Wolf is all I've ever shot out of my WASR-10 and i've run more than a few rounds of 9mm Wolf through my GLock. Never had any problems. Actually the green lacquer wolf 9mm kinda smells like fruit stripe gum when you shoot it. (Its not just me, my friend noticed it too)

 

[browningguy]

Cheap and dirty as already mentioned. I don't shoot it in any of my guns now but have fired it in my SKS.

 

[BeltfedMG]

I have fired atleast in all reality 20,000-30,000 wolf 223 threw my M16 and AR15's, never once had a problem. Can shoot a thousand rnds in a sitting and not have to clean it cause its too dirty to run. What ammo isnt dirty? I love wolf.

 

[hqmhqm]

I had the problem with the older lacquer cases, that when my HBAR barrel heated up, the cases got stuck in the chamber, and I had to whack the butt on the ground to get the bolt unstuck. I was shooting a whole mag pretty quickly, though, so the barrel got hot, and the HBAR holds the heat.

The newer polymer coated stuff seems less gucky, but I haven't shot enough of it rapidly enough to tell if it gets stuck or not.

I don't want to use steel cased ammo in my M1 Carbine, call me superstitious. I think if you want to shoot Wolf, you might as well stick with an AK or other
crude communist weapon.

 

[stevelyn]

I've only shot Wolf out my BHP. No problems so far, but it is dirty and smells funny.

 

[Bartkowski]

It runs fine in my sks's but isn't the most consistent ammo. I will probably always buy wolf or some other russian steel case for plinking. I am having good luck with silver bear too. Shoots fine in my AR and is about 3MOA at 100yards so no complaints there.

 

[cindynles]

Wolf 7.62x39mm in my SKS has always worked great. The 9x19mm seems to be hit or miss depending on the gun. My Ruger P95 eats it up with no problems, by Browining Hi-Power jams every 3 or 4 shots with it.

Buy a box or two and see how it works in your gun.

 

[sandy4570]

What kind of M1 Carbine do you have ? I have IAI 888 carbine and with barely 36 rounds of Wolf ammo the extractor hook was broke ,The commercial carbine chamber is too tight for steel case .It took me 4 hours to replace the extractor and I have Carbine bolt too. My IAI 888 now only shoot reload with brass case. Fortunately , I also have Inland M1 carbine and it gobble up the wolf steel case without any problem .

 

[camslam]

I have fired several thousand rounds of Wolf .45 ACP and 7.62 x 39 ammo. The 7.62 has never had any problems.

The .45 ACP has had a handful of misfires where the primer was bad, otherwise, it has run flawlessly.

Then again I was shooting it out of a Glock or AK, which are designed to fire just about anything.

For the price, it is good stuff. Also those saying it burns dirty, have you shot Winchester white box from Walmart? They should include wet wipes and gun swabs with every box. That stuff is filthy.

 

[Crazy Fingers]

It was worth it back in the days of $1.99 a box. These days, after the great ammunition inflation it is only marginally cheaper than anything else. It's fine just to plink around with, but considering that the steel cases aren't reloadable, I'll pay the extra dollar or two for a box of Sellier & Bellot or something. That way I get reloadable brass.

 

[Rmart30]

Ive never had any problems out of it other than one particular gun I had would not empty a mag of it without some sort of problem.... same ammo did fine in any other gun but that one.

It is a little dirtier but for the cost difference I can clean a little more

 

[rxdi01]

I've shot over 25k rounds of wolf in multiple calibers, the bulk of it being .223 and I have not had any problems besides the obvious ones of it's dirty, and not very accurate.

If your AR won't shoot wolf, put a skirt on it or sell it.

 

[Cmdr. Gravez0r]

Wolf is nasty and my Yugo SKS loves it. I think I probably get 2 moa which is not bad for .20 a pop.

 

[paintballdude902]

i think you get what you pay for wiht wolf decent ammo but not great good for plinking and fun but i wouldnt wanna shoot a comp with it

 

[Pilgrim]

I've shot perhaps 1500+ rounds of .45 ACP in various Model 1911s. I have no complaints.

I think I have another 1500 rounds in the ammo locker.

Pilgrim

 

[rfurtkamp]

Thousands of rounds in various calibers here as well.

Only time I ever had problems was with the old laquered stuff doing betadumps in an AR, had a case stay in the chamber. Waited for it to cool, knocked it out with a cleaning rod, and now don't do multiple dumps in a row without a break. Thousands of rounds later, that original extractor is still fine.

Sigs, 1911s, Aks, ARs, Hks, FALs, all have eaten it without complaint and it's as accurate as other non-match ammo.

It's also got enough powder charge to reliably cycle the Uzi, which WWB and AE (when it got cold out) wouldn't do.

 

[TEDDY]

steel cases

the germans made steel 8 mm in ww2,we made steel cased 45 acp for the pacific battles,and steel cased carbine ammo.brass corroded in the pacific and steel did not.
the wolf may be made with powder that uses wood instead of cotton.

 

[Arcturus]

I've shot a lot of wolf in various calibers, never had an issue. Keep your gun clean (you do clean after every session right?) and it will go bang everytime. I've never had a FTF or FTE.

 

[Brad Johnson]

I've shot several tens of thousands of rounds of it in almost every caliber from .32 to .45. No problems.

As for it being dirty, yeah, it's a little dirtier than a lot of the mainstream stuff. But if you keep your hogleg clean it's not problem. And you are cleaning your guns regularly, right?

For those who claim that it's the dirtiest ever, well, it's not. You've obviously never had to roll your own in the days when powder choices were "a couple" and not "a couple dozen". Reloads stoked with W231 make Wolf look like the breath of spring!

Brad

 

[kd7nqb]

Wolf is cheap and dirty. I would never carry it but dont mind it for range time as long as I know I am going to clean the guns soon.

Its actually considerably cleaner than some of the remanufacuted junk out there and certainly cleaner than a lot of milsurp stuff.

 

[mgkdrgn]

First of all,I reload 9mm,and .40 cal.,and am looking at a M1 carbine. I've checked out what I would need to reload for the carbine,compared to what Wolf ammo would cost and I would have to reload about 1500 rds. of brass ammo for the M1 carbine to come out ahead. The M1 carbine will not be a every week shooter like my other guns but maybe once a month,50 rds or so.I'm seeing "buckets" of empty Wolf at the range these days with the high cost of brass bullets,and wonder how good Wolf ammo is and if it can damage a gun.
Opinions,and experiences with this ammo please.

My Glock eats Wolf 9 mm and Military Classic like so much candy. YUM! "Maybe" it's dirty, but the Glock don't care, and I clean it after every range trip anyway.

I'll let you know if the next thousand rounds shoots as good as the first two.

 

[Exposure]

Don't use Wolf, it is dirty and inaccurate, and will blow up your gun.

In addition, quality firearms should only be fed quality ammunition. American firearms were designed for brass cased ammo, why would you feed such lowly steel cased ammo to American made firearms?!?!?!!? Leave that crappy communist ammo to the communists!!!! If you spent such good money on a quality firearm why would you put such junk ammo in it???????






There is nothing wrong with Wolf.

The ridiculous laquer coating argument does not hold water. Take an empty Wolf laquered case and heat it up with a propane torch until it glows red, after it cools you will see the laquer is still on there. The laquer was NOT making the cases stick in the chambers of all of your expensive AR's. There are other issues at work making those cases stick. If your gun won't run with whatever ammo you can pick up, do you really want to trust your life to it? I know I don't.

My M16 eats Wolf all day, literally, with no trouble. I have an MG shoot coming up next month and I already have 2500 rounds of Wolf ready to go for that shoot. The last one I was at in August I only shot 900 rounds of Wolf with no trouble at all, and that includes a Beta dump with a single pull of the trigger.

Wolf has been a BIG name in ammunition for at least 5 years now, and probably longer than that. In that time there has to have been hundreds of millions of rounds made. Do all of you Wolf naysayers really think if it was such junk it would still be out there available pretty much anywhere? Think about it for just a second, put two and two together and see what it adds up to.

I can't understand this tremendous aversion to Wolf ammo. It is laughable to read some of the comments out there about what junk this stuff is.

 

[no_problem]

Nothing wrong with Wolf, I am no Ammo snob. Ammo is supposed to go bang when you pull the trigger and Wolf does that fine and reliably. I shoot thousands of rounds in my AR and AK with no problem. These guns are military guns, if they can't take any and all kinds of ammo and keep firing, what good are they? They sell gajillions of rounds of wolf out in the market, nothing wrong with Wolf ammo.