Wolf Military Classic=CRAP

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That's old news bud

As far as I'm concerned all Wolf ammo is crap. :barf: I've tried it in many calibers in many guns. The only thing it has ever worked in for me is the SKS or one of the AK-47 variants. Even then, it's accuracy is lousy. :barf: Same goes for the Silver Bear crap.

Do yourself and your guns a favor and by good, brass cased, boxer primed, non-commie ammo. You'll have a lot more fun and the cost won't be that much different since you usually wind up throwing out or giving away the Wolf and Silver Bear stuff anyway. :rolleyes:

Molon Labe,
Joe
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I've fired many a box of wold MC 7.62x39 out of my good old sks and never one problem, all fed shot and extracted just fine. Maybe not quite as accurate as some expensive brass but out of the 10 shot clip I hit a 1" bullseye with that same sks and the other 9 were about 5 moa...

It's not crappy ammo or a crappy rifle, my brother owns a bushmaster and they are fine rifles, just not a good match. If you've got that much invested in the gun you might aswell use some worthwhile ammo to go with it.
 
Friends don't let friends shoot lacquered ammo in their AR's. Might want to spray down that chamber and action with brake parts cleaner.

Mostly combloc rifles tolerate Wolf since they're designed to shoot the stuff. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot Wolf polymer coated black box in an AR for a few rounds. However, it was dirty enough to muck up my saiga .223 action with unburnt power filler.
 
Ran 80 rds of Wolf black box through my new AR and had zero reliability problems. How ever I did have one pierced primer which wasn't fun at all. I have been having problems with pierced primers in my SKSs with Wolf MC also. Anybody having the same issue or am I just unlucky?
 
I've shot about 1,000 rounds out of my Stag Arms AR 15 and not problems at all. I only use this for blasting ammo and wouldn't rely on it for shtf unless it was the only thing I could get my hands unto at that moment.
 
Ran 80 rds of Wolf black box through my new AR and had zero reliability problems. How ever I did have one pierced primer which wasn't fun at all. I have been having problems with pierced primers in my SKSs with Wolf MC also. Anybody having the same issue or am I just unlucky?
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A pierced primer can sharpen your firing pin, resulting in more pierced primers. I'd add a firing pin to your next Brownells or Midway order.
 
Wolf is notoriously underpowered, so it doesn't always work in all guns. I have never had a problem with my AR15's cycling wolf in general, but I have seen Wolf as a poor product. I still shoot it from time to time when I have no other choice, but I try not to.

It is my last resort ammo.

Too many blown primers, hard primers, and the accuracy is horrendous in their 7.62x39 FMJ offering. I haven't had issues with accuracy in .223.
 
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If any of you guys are interested in disposing of your awful Wolf ammo:

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I have a bushy that got feed wolf by the hundreds - cleaned after every session and have never had a problem.

That being said I do agree its not my first choice just my cheapest... started reloading just to resolve that fact.
 
Wolf .223 is usually tolerated better by rifles with chrome chambers.

However, just because you have a chrome chamber, does NOT mean your rifle will automatically tolerate Wolf.

I have two AR15-type rifles. Neither rifle has a chrome chamber, and neither rifle will tolerate polymer or laquer Wolf .223 ammo.

The spent cases stick in the chambers, and the extractors rip the rims off the stuck casings.
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What I see from your pictures is an example of too much breech friction. There is this myth, created by shill gunwriters, that the case is supposed to stick to the chamber walls. The reverse is true, you want the case not to stick to the chamber. All the case needs to do is provide a gas seal. You would like it so that when the bolt opens, the case comes out without resistance. Life for the designer and the user would be so much better if frictionless cases existed.

Steel cases create a lot of friction in rifle chambers. If you don't believe steel on steel creates a lot of friction, run your car engine without oil and see what happens. You will be a believer.

What I believe is that your action is opening up and the case is stuck to the chamber walls. One possibility is that the ammo is too hot and the action is opening too soon in the pressure curve, or, my guess, is that the steel case is still stuck to the chamber walls because of the high friction between the case and the chamber.

Chrome chambers reduce friction between cases and cartridge cases. Lacquer is put on steel cases to 1) provide a slick coating between the steel case and the chamber, and 2) reduce rust. As you are experiencing, passive surface treatments are not 100% successful in all actions.

Try this, put a drop of oil on every tenth cartridge in the magazine. Or maybe just spray it all with penetrating oil.

Then shoot the stuff. If you have zero problems, you will know that breech friction is your problem.
 
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I became a believer in wolf after I ran a range session at Camp
Ripley for some CAP cadets.

They provided the ammo for the M-16s.

2000 rounds of wolf.

They shot it all and it ran without a hitch through the M-16s except for one with bad gas rings.

That one wouldn't cycle.
 
My Robinson XCR is tested at the factory with Wolf ammo. Just choose the appropriate gas setting for the ammo you are shooting.

Needless to say it digests Wolf ammo with no problems. I certainly do appreciate that. For Grins and giggles I normally shoot the Wolf 62gr HP. No problems, no worry's.

I have not been a fan of the M16/AR15 since they were issued to us in 1967 while in Vietnam and made a point to never own one. But I am told if your AR is built properly it will digest Wolf without problems.

From those who chose the AR system and have become proficient at running that system, keep telling us that it is a rifle problem, not an ammunition problem.

Go figure.

Fred
 
I would check your brothers rifle over a bit.

Maybe the gas rings are off a bit or the gas key is loose.

It should cycle.
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Doubt it since we went and shot about 50rds of the PMC just to make sure it was the ammo and not the gun. They worked fine as well as the 100rds of remmington we shot before the Wolf. Also, just to clear this up, I am not bashing all wolf ammo (the aluminum cased stuff works fine out of my 24/7) just saying the Military Classic stuff is CRAP or at least out of my brothers AR it is.
 
Compared to S&B and Barnaul 7.62x39mm, Wolf is crap. You can claim "small sample size," but this has held true for over eight rifles so far. I won't buy Wolf unless I can't get Barnaul. (S&B 7.62x39 is long gone.)
 
The only guns I would shoot Wolf ammo out of are guns with loose tolerances, like the AK-47.
 
Cheap wolf black box crap works great in my mini-14.

If you've got any crappy wolf .223/5.56 to throw away, you let me know.
 
Put several hundred rounds of Wolf MC through my Bushmaster. Ammo and rifle functioned flawlessy.

Its your rifle, not the ammo.
 
As for the accuracy being bad.....again, its you or your rifle, not the ammo. Wolf MC may not be the best out there, but it is certainly good enough for range work.

This group was shot while leaning over the roof of my cruiser. Not the steadiest of rests, but it worked. Distance was about 75 paces.

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Flyers were called by me.
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