Woman armed with shotgun blasts 'crazed' home intruder

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There have been several posts that indicate they would have expected the woman to try and warn him off which I don't understand. If I was sitting in the dark with a crazy man yelling and beating on my door and he hasn't managed to get in yet, I'm not going to make it known that there is anyone in the house. I would wait him out and either he gives up and goes away since he doesn't know anyone is there, or he does what he did and the result is the same.
 
Well there you go. I thought the 911 operator was extremely professional and helpful.

I was delighted to see she told the homeowner she was right to protect herself.

And would you people STOP calling a 56 year old elderly! Sheez.:D
 
^ +1

After listening to the call one of the things that surprised me the most was the competence of the 911 operator (we've all heard 911 calls where you just want to kick the operator in the teeth, most of them make you wonder how they find their way out of bed in the morning). She continued giving the officers detailed info and and never talked down to the caller. At any moment I expected to hear her tell the caller to put the gun down or get rid of the gun and go hide, she never did. She told the caller to "do what you have to do"... kudos.

I guess this is the difference between God fearing conservative country folks and the inner-city Chicago (insert whatever dirtbag jurisdiction you want) liberal idiots.
 
Warning Shots???

He had warning...

He had warning when the fence he climbed over had a locked gate.

He had warning when he had to fight the dog off of him.

He had warning when the sliding glass door was locked.

He had warning when he saw the little old lady WITH THE FREAKING SHOTGUN!!!

I'm ashamed of all the alcoholic apologists in this thread. Part of the steps in AA is taking responsibility for yourself and what your drinking has done.
 
he had to fight the dog off of him
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neither here nor there but...

I've seen several people say this... i listened to the entire call and it seemed to me that she said the dog was on the other side of the fence minding goats. she says something like "cody did the best he could but he couldnt get to him".

As for my .02... Had it been me I would have verbally confronted the "gentleman" before firing. Had it been my wife/mother/daughter/grandmother/anyone not 100% comfortable with doing so I'd say don't make yourself known. So in other words, had this been my mother, I'd want her to do exactly what Ms Jackson did.
 
if it had been my mother/wife/child i would be indescribably proud of the level-headedness and proper-to-escalating-threat-level behavior that this lady displayed. poor thing has to live with the fact that she was forced to do something that she is CLEARLY distraught by.
none of us (i hope) EVER want to use our weapons against another person under any circumstances.
God forbid me or my family ever have to live through something like that, but i can only hope that i/we would respond in such fashion.
 
Pretty clear the DA doesn't consider the shooting UNreasonable. :eek:
 

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Regardless of the many posts about how this may end up in civil court, I just don't see that happening based on this DA letter. I can't imagine a civil lawyer who would want to go near this one.

This is a good decision by the DA. It saves taxpayer money by not putting her on trial where she would probably be found not guilty anyway, it saves her money and trauma, and it does the right thing by the citizens of Oklahoma, reinforcing the message that they can feel safe in their own homes.

It's nice to see that the doom and gloom predictions by many here that if you ever under any circumstance have to use deadly force you'll be paying thousands of dollars to defend yourself simply isn't always true.
 
I think the DA's letter came to the same conclusion that most of us here already thought. The shoot was justified. Based on the finding of the DA, it will make it very difficult to win a civil case. If you can find an attorney to take it on...
 
Regardless of the many posts about how this may end up in civil court, I just don't see that happening based on this DA letter. I can't imagine a civil lawyer who would want to go near this one.
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It certainly wouldn't go to a civil court in Ohio. If it's justifiable, it's not actionable.
 
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I may have heard wrong, but I think the lady was saying that if she had to fire (it was a 16ga), she'd have to put down the phone first.
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It is a very long 911 call (I listened to most of the 30 minute version) and she does say that she's afraid the gun will break her arm.
 
For those advocating firing a warning shot, she was holding (if I understand correctly) a 3-shot shotgun, and facing an intoxicated and very violent intruder with the police still 13 minutes away. Would you throw away a third of your gun's capacity if you only had 3 rounds to start with? I know I wouldn't.

The NYPD Stakeout Squad shooting side-by-sides back in the day IIRC had a hit percentage under 50%, and those weren't elderly women in their first gunfight. I'd say firing a warning shot in her circumstances would have been unwise, even if warning shots weren't generally a bad idea.
 
I'd say firing a warning shot in her circumstances would have been unwise, even if warning shots weren't generally a bad idea.
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Plus she would have had to fix the hole in her wall, or dog, or something.

Warning shots have to GO somewhere.....

Warning shots are a silly idea.
 
I listened to the entire 911 call. This lady was a basketcase and NOT gun owner (despite the fact that she was holding a shotgun). She was in a panic the entire call and was holding a weapon that

A. she was not comfortable with
B. was afraid of
C. was admittedly too big for her
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Albeit it your points are probably true...

The outcome is still the uncomfortable scary gun held by the basketcase which was too big for her -- quite possibly saved her life.
 
Regardless of the many posts about how this may end up in civil court, I just don't see that happening based on this DA letter. I can't imagine a civil lawyer who would want to go near this one.
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Yep; the Make My Day statute is a defense to both criminal and civil actions.

Myself, I would have said "reach for the sky a-hole" and let him live, provided he complied. That way maybe you can get some restitution payments out of him for the break in. But in her shoes, a middle aged female - can't say that I blame her for blasting first thing through the door.
 
Everybody is not Rambo like you Kimber.

She did damn good. One less dirtbag and all ended well. Take a fricking chill pill.
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Ditto... I think 'ol Kim45 is being overly judgmental. So, she was scared. So, she was not comfortable with the shotgun. So, she babbled on a bit with the dispatcher. So what I ask? She still did the job when the moment of truth care round.

I am betting he has never been in a real situation of this sort... beyond what he picked up on the tube in moms basement that is.
 
I think that getting shot with a shotgun is a fitting end for anybody who drinks alcohol or uses drugs; one less slimeball in the world.
 
I think that getting shot with a shotgun is a fitting end for anybody who drinks alcohol or uses drugs
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So then, because I'm drinking a glass of burgundy, I deserve to die?

Perhaps your turban is on a little too tight, Mullah Omar.
 
I think the lady needs to be gifted with a .30 carbine. Much easier to handle than a big ol' shotgun.
 
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