woman broke down on the road... Help or no?

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roscoe,

I think many do good deeds but they don't advertise it. Some may ream them for picking up someone stranded, some may think they are only sharing for attn. As I said before. I've picked a few up in the past, but lately, I probably fall in line with 'paranoid'.
 
In the country-Help. In the city-Nope

I live in a metropolis basicly with a food mart, gas station, restuarant, or Walmart on every corner for 70 miles around. If someone is broke down they can get to somewhere to make a call. I do not stop for these people. I have stopped for someone who had run off the road and into a canal though but that is a whole lot different and life threatening.
In the hills of NW NC I would definitely stop and help someone stranded as there is nothing around for miles and miles.
I have advised my wife that if she ever breaks down, she is not to seek help from anyone as there are too many opportunity-driven psychos out there who might do her harm.
 
There is no reason you cannot just call 911 and report the situation. Unless there is imminent danger of an unknown hitchhiker freezing to death, I'd be inclined to let those who get paid to take care of these problems do so.

The fact that it was a women with a baby makes it a bit more urgent, so maybe it qualifies as imminent danger to the baby, which would make a difference in my decision to stop or not.
 
It depends, is she carrying Bud Light?

(referencing the superbowl ad)


I have and will, If the car is on the side of the road in middle of nowhere, with clean sightlines sure. Changed tires, added oil or gas, given antifreeze.

Once stopped and drove a guy who's MB had died on the side of the road all the way to the airport, maybe 30 miles out of my way, (I was bored) He was super nice and when i got out to open the trunk for him, he tossed some money on the seat, only later did I find out it was 3 100 dollar bills. He was on his way of town for a meeting.

Once stopped and picked up a really cute girl and gave her a ride home, her car had died at 2 am and i was driving home from second shift. She gave me her phone number


Now i find most women are very nervous about accepting help. I will offer use of my cell phone if they look halfway trusty, or will offer to call home or cops if they like. I once drove a younger woman to her office after her car died on the side of the main highway. She had called triple A and yet she was needing to get to work. I had my company truck, big name spelled out on the side and all. I offered and she was scared, I said here, call your mom, tell her who i am, my car license and my cell number. If you do not call her from work she can report me, ended up her mom stayed on the line with her till i dropped her off at work. I had no problem with that.




When I was a little kid, my mom had a 59 pontiac super chief, and it died on the side of the road on the way to a baseball game, some guy stopped asked her if she needed help and she had already called my dad from the house we were stopped at. Some how the topic of the ball game came up and the guy offered to drive us to the game, so all 5 or 6 of us piled into his car and got a lift the game. He stayed until my dad showed up and he was sure we had a ride home. Different times.
 
Yeah, i try to help if i can.

When i had my truck, and it was raining. Some lucky people got to ride in the bed. Saving them from walking up a huge steep, steep hill by my house. I figure they were already getting soaked, better than walking up a big ass hill AND getting soaked.

Now that i drive a car daily, not so much.

A woman and a child. Yeah, id have to stop and at least ask if they need help or need to use my cell. Could be a trap, but most likely not. I sometimes come off as a big intimidating guy, but im really a nice guy. Shhhh, dont tell nobody.
 
Man, it's not a good sign when you get so wrapped up in strategies and tactics that you forget to be human. I'm not sure I want to know the man who would leave mother and child walking in 12 degree weather.

I think Robert A. Heinlein said it best:

All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplusage, excrescence, adornment, luxury, or folly, which can — and must — be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only universal morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a "perfect society" on any foundation other than "Women and children first!" is not only witless, it is automatically genocidal. Nevertheless, starry-eyed idealists (all of them male) have tried endlessly — and no doubt will keep on trying.

~~~Mat
 
Yeah, sure . . . OK . . .

What if she was some crazy coke whore and had some guy lying on the floor of her car with an AK-47, looking to steal your car, your money, your firearm, and your cell phone? Kill you, and your girlfriend, steal your credit cards and fly to Cancun?

SAFE is to call 911 on the cell phone and let Hwy. Patrol or whatever take care of it. It's not like she's stranded on a remote mountain road out in the wilderness.

SAFE is to make the 911 call. The police are trained and equiped to handle break downs on the road. These days with cell phone there's no need to stop for anyone you don't know.

-- Yeah, sure . . . Most of the time you can sort of figure out what's going on. But police are able to manage a breakdown on the highway. You're not.

40 semi auto between the seats is not going to cover your butt if you're out of the car and someone decides to open fire. -- Not that it's likely, just that it's what the situation is about.
 
That's nasty, Jack. Wild speculation of crack whores, AKs lying in wait, and stolen trips to Cancun are admittedly possible, but so unlikely as to warrant dismissal.

Maybe it's the "hey, you never know" mindset advocated by the New York Lottery.

I know I've sure appreciated being helped. Alone without phone in a ditch alongside vast empty country fields in a blizzard late at night is a lousy time to think you're being passed because of the "hey, you never know" fear. I sure appreciated the couple of guys who stopped, got out in the blizzard, and literally lifted my car out of the ditch - without worrying that I'd shoot 'em, steal their cards, and fly to Cancun.

Paranoiac "what if"s tear society apart. I've managed plenty of breakdowns on the highway; so long as I'm armed and I don't get that creepy "something's wrong" feeling, I'll help. Yes, I risk getting harmed, robbed, or killed - but it's far more likely that I'll be helping someone who will appreciate it, not abuse it.

You want "SAFE"? Don't even be on the road - driving is far more dangerous than stopping to help someone.
 
Nasty Jack...

WHERE THE HECK DID I SAY I GOT OUT OF THE TRUCK? WHERE THE HECK DID I SAY I GOT ANYWHERE NEAR HER CAR?

I SAID that I saw her car on the other side of a majior road, in a busy town, and SHE was walking away from it carrying a baby...

MY ass never left the seat, and the .40 Semi-auto was in EASY hands reach the whole time... IF I had left the truck at any point, the .40 WOULD have gone with me, but had a guy with an AK jumped out, I have a 6500 pound truck with a healthily built engine at my command... that is WHAT when measured in Grains? a few million?

I DIDN'T say it was a Dodge Neon 2 door, (I only know that because if you read, I passed it 3 minutes before, headed the opposite way) and there ain't room for an AK-47 there, let alone a guy AND an AK-47...
 
Matt...

Like you, I agree with Heinlein concerning matters such as these. Men were born to fight, sacrifice and at times, die so that women and children can carry on.

Biker
 
My ex-girlfriend had almost this exact thing happen to her, she ran out of gas and managed to lose her purse in the same trip, she was 40 miles away from home and she had our young daughter with her, a nice older woman gave her a 20 dollar bill and told her to fill her car up and go on home. I still feel very grateful for that woman and I am sure the lady you helped is grateful that you happened along.
 
when i was a weenie kid my 24yro uncle and my mom got stuck in a VERY black part of upstate new york, a neighborhood reputed to be quite bad. violence was quite raw then, you and people get gutted in alleys and what not.

anyway, it was 11pm and we were stuck. nearly no traffic, and we were dead on the road right in front of one of those new york aparement buildings wiht the big front stairs.. on which were perched about 8 or 9 Young Black Males.

don't really recall too much about it, but in the end those boys brought jugs of water down to the car and helped fill up the radiator. who knew that cars could overheat in winter?

i was about 3yro at the time and it has stuck with me till now.

since then ive done CRAZY things helping folks out.

1. I helped an old man push a faded yellow jalopy off the 101 North freeway near downtown los angeles... in rush hour traffic... FROM THE 3RD LANE! (to be fair rush hour traffic was moving at about 9 mph)

2. i helped two obviously cholos (latino gangsters) change a tire using my jack. these guys were all tatted up with ms13 on their necks. now this was at a gas station, and they were actually out of their turf and in my neighborhood, but they told me they had been tyring to borrow someone's jack for nearly a hour. everybody just happene dot have left theirs at home...

3. after an earthquake, i drove five other students, all of them strangers, home from college after busses got cancelled. i wound up in places id never been in before and wondered at times if my car would fall into one of the many ubiquitous potholes and never emerge... that's how deep they were...

kev
 
I've always had junk cars. That said, I'm always inclined to stop and help someone out. I've been stuck on the side of the road before, and it's not fun. I have never, and don't plan to give rides, however. It is simply too risky in today's world.

-Nick
 
If it were my wife and child, I would hope somebody would help them. Trust your gut and stay alert, but try to help when you can.
 
This story takes place in pre-cell phone days:

I leave for work about 4am to be there by 5am. One morning it was around 20degrees and I see a woman and a small boy walking. I had passed a car a few miles back and I assumed (wrongly) it was hers and she had trouble. I pull my truck over and ask if they need help.

"Take us to the Police now!" she yelled as they got in the truck. Semi in shock from her statement, I look up to see lights pulling in front of me to block me off. I throw the truck in reverse and start back, as the van in front follows me.

I realize there is no where to turn around so I stop the truck. Normally I have a large bore pistol or long gun, but today I have my airweight Centennial. Three men get out of the vehicle and approach my truck. I let the window down a fraction to see what they want. The woman and child, of course. I have my .38 below the window level and no one has seen it yet, so surprise is somewhat on my side.

Luckily as I'm formulating a plan of action about 4 PD cars pull up. Evidently the action has been ongoing and someone has called them already. I give my statement to the officers and they let me proceed to work. I read a write-up in the paper a few days later about the whole messy divorce/assault that I was in the middle of. If I had been more aware I would have noticed that there was frost on the windshield of the car i had passed so it had been there a while.

But I would still stop to help someone who was broken down, but I would be much more careful.
 
I once was "forced" to pick up a hooker/drug-addict.

It was raining, she was standing next to my car. Didn't look homeless, was banging on the window, I took down the window.

She said she doesn't know where she is and needs help. I said, "How about we call the police?"

She said, "I can't see the police."

I said, "Why?" - and she said, because I'm high on heroine.

I said, ok - and as I said ok, she actually just got into my car.

Now I'm freaking out. Looking at escape routes, watching her hands very closely.

I asked where she needed to go - she said "HOME" and I said, "Where is that?"

She told me where it was, but wanted me to go another way to get there. I said, "This way is fastest." and she said, "Yeah, but if I go that way, my pimp will see me and we'll have to stop so I can buy more drugs."

So I said, OK.... let's get something straight. You got in my car, high on heroine, and are a prostitute. I feel very uncomfortable right now, but worse - you should be very uncomfortable too because you don't know what I'm capable of. I will take you home, but I will take my way, no stops, nothing.

So she led me to her condo around the corner, I dropped her off.... doused my passenger seat in rubbing alcohol, and tried to shrug it off as I went along the rest of my day.

As she was getting out I told her, "Listen - get your life in order lady! Ok!? The next guy who picks you up might not be a nice guy like me.... he might want to rape you, kill you, and then eat you. Do I make myself clear?"

and then I drove off.
 
Like was said, you have to trust your own instincts, keep an eye on the surroundings. I believe 98% of the people are good decent folks. I'd want someone to help my family/friends
 
Just last night, Friday, about 11:30 PM, out on the open highway, 8 miles from the nearest town. SUV on the side of the road, emergency light flashing.

I called the police dispatch on 911 and reported it. Dispatch says there's a car on the way. My work is done. I didn't even slow down.
 
Something to ponder, she was taking a bigger chance than you were. If I was a hot 20-something girl with baby in hands, I'd have to think twice before I got into a truck with two people, one packing a loaded gun. You could have killer her and sold her baby on Ebay.;)

That being said, I would have picked her up...even if I didn't have a gun or second passenger in the car. I would have simply parked at a significant distance away from her car and watched for any funny business as she approached. And before I let her in, I'd make sure the baby was real and not a doll. If something went astray, a right elbow to the face would be quicker and more effective than any gun I might have handy.
 
Famine, I get your point, BUT... my weapon was concealed... has to be, in a vehicle, in Michigan, and you gottas have a permit to do that...

#2, I'd have to have some DAMN long arms to plant an elbow in the face of anyone sitting in the passenger side of my '01 Dodge Ram... that passenger side door is like 6 feet away from me... the console is 16" wide... kinda negates an elbow strike...
 
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