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Woman survives .44 Mag between the eyes.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Rugerlvr, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. Rugerlvr

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  2. isuace

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    1. They don't know for sure that it was a .44
    2. The front of the skull is incredibly thick and hard. They don't call it the cranial vault for nothing
     
  3. dmxx9900

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    very lucky woman
     
  4. k-frame

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    But it hit the windshield first

    http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/ap...se-woman-who-survived-shot-bet/?news-breaking

     
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  5. Bazooka Joe71

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    Wow, that is just crazy lucky!

    Did I miss something?
     
  6. glocker82

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    She should go buy a lottery ticket.
     
  7. dmxx9900

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    I would go through the red light if a situation like that brewed up and I would have my revolver on my lap.
     
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    Could have been a squib round. Hitting a windshield would slow the bullet, but it's still a .44 Magnum, or so they think. Could have been a weaker caliber of that approximate diameter.

    So no. I'm not impressed. :)

    This is why you don't rely on one bullet to do the job.
     
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    holy crap. That's a thick noggin! Damn lucky she is.

    yikes dude. Just yikes. That statement could easily be taken the wrong way by a casual internet surfer who stumbles on this thread.
     
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    Dirty Harry was wrong apparently...
     
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    Time to buy a Lotto ticket.
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    Sweet, a local event.
     
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    Probably tumbled after it hit the windshield and contacted the forehead sideways making a bigger entry wound.
     
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    those that have read Jim Cirillo's Guns, Bullets and Gunfights know that even good solid head hits aren't guaranteed put downs. Cirillo did a lot of work developing rounds to crack the "coconut."
     
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    44 special maybe With out the caseing can't say mag for sure
     
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    Waste of money. She's already used ALL of her luck.
     
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    1. Could have been a wadcutter round.

    2. Maybe there just weren't any vital organs in her head.

    3. Ballistics. They never cease to amaze.
     
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    Wow...pretty crazy.

    This happened right around the corner from my office. It's a fairly industrial area that is bordered by run down communities and also near a large nightclub/bar strip.

    During the days it's alright, and mostly filled with workers from the area. But at night it can get a little hairy at times, like this one.
     
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    this is completely amazing. I have never heard of such a thing. For sure she is so lucky to be alive. Wow
     
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    She's definitely lucky, but after passing through two separate pieces of auto glass the bullet may have broken up before it even hit her.

    I used to know a Chicago Cop (he was about 5' 8" and 160) that took four .44 mag rounds in his chest and survived to return to full duty.

    Bullets are funny things.
     
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    Average handgun rounds have a very difficult time getting through windshields. We've shot up quite a few cars out this way, and watched .40 S&W, .45 ACP, etc. glance off of windshields even when hit head on at 25 or 30 feet. I don't have much difficulty believing that someone could survive being shot with a handgun, even a large magnum, if the bullet had to penetrate the front glass of an automobile first.

    Rifles, OTOH, tend to zip through rather effortlessly and often continue on with minimal deflection.
     
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    NO WAY was that a .44 Magnum. I doubt it was even a .44 Special. It may have been some kind of zip gun or air gun. A .44 mag would have completely destroyed the cranium. The temporary cavity alone would be larger than her head, which means it's essentially impossible to survive. Nor would any .44 centerfire "break up" on the skull.

    "A handgun" maybe, but I don't think you understand what a .44 Magnum is, my friend. It doesn't glance off auto glass. Auto glass does virtually nothing to it. Even a .357 will blow through auto glass. At most it will alter the trajectory of smaller rounds, but it won't skid them off or stop them. That's an old myth. And modern centerfire handgun rounds most certainly do not break up on skull tissue! I've shot a lot of things, including a few I really shouldn't have shot (including an entire hotel once). I've seen what magnum handgun rounds do to animals, buildings, cars, steel barrels, trees, more trees, cabins, log piles, dead moose, and of course I've studied ballistic testing of them. No way was this was a magnum handgun, esp. not a .44 Mag. NO FRICKING WAY. NO WAY, NO HOW, NOT POSSIBLE. It may have been BITS of shattered bullet after impacting something else, but not the whole slug. Or it may have been a much smaller round in the range of a 9mm FMJ or .38 special RN that slipped through.

    Weighed against that, we have this:

    That's what we call double hearsay. She tells the journalist what the doctor supposedly told her, and the journalist tells us. Lots of opportunity there to mess it up. And the citation to "a 44.-caliber gun" doesn't inspire confidence. Look at the scar and tell me you honestly think that was a .44 mag!
     
  23. jakemccoy

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    .44 Mag vs. 9mm

    Go.

    -Jake
     
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    This isn't uncommon with .22, .25, .32, .38, and other relatively low power low velocity "cheap" ammunition. The human skull is amazing, and very difficult to pierce with handgun ammunition, even more so after the bullet pierced a windshield.

    My bet, however, is that it was not a .44 magnum projectile. Even a wadcutter would be hard pressed not to kill at that range, even after going through a windshield.
     
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    Great. Doctors guessing at calibers now. "Or maybe it was a .45". "Nah, definitely a .44 Special". I think there is too much CSI viewing going on now. I really doubt this was a .44.
     
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