World Court: U.S. Must Stay 3 Executions

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World Court: U.S. Must Stay 3 Executions
Wed Feb 5, 5:48 PM ET

By TOBY STERLING, Associated Press Writer

THE HAGUE, Netherlands - The United States must temporarily stay the execution of three Mexican citizens on death row in Texas and Oklahoma, the World Court ruled Wednesday.



In a unanimous decision, the 15-judge panel said that the delay was needed while the U.N. court investigates in full whether the men — and 48 other Mexicans on death row in U.S. prisons — were given their right to legal help from the Mexican government.


The World Court, officially known as the International Court of Justice, is the U.N.'s court for resolving disputes between nations. It has no power to enforce its decisions, and the United States has disregarded them in the past.


It is the third World Court case in five years against the United States dealing with the death penalty. In a nearly identical high-profile case in 2001 it found that the United States had violated international law by not informing a German citizen of his right to consular assistance.


Walter LaGrand was executed in Arizona despite an order to postpone his punishment until it had heard Germany's case.


Reading the ruling Wednesday, presiding Judge Gilbert Guillaume said the court supported Mexico's argument that executing the men would cause "irreparable" damage to their rights if the court later finds in Mexico's favor.


"The United States shall take all measures necessary to ensure that (the men) are not executed pending final judgment in these proceedings," he said.


U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands Clifford Sobel said the Justice Department (news - web sites) was "studying the decision" and would comment as soon as possible.


"It's important to note that this is not a ruling on the merits of the case," he said.


It would be "premature" to say whether the United States will abide by the decision, Sobel said.


Sandra Babcock, a lawyer for Mexico, said she expects America to comply because "these types of orders are binding on the United States." By ignoring the decision, she said, the United States would send the impression that it "didn't care about the rule of law."


"Americans traveling abroad are more vulnerable than ever at this point in time, and if the United States disregards the order of the world's highest court on an issue that directly affects Americans abroad (consular assistance), I think that sets a very dangerous precedent."


Court spokeswoman Laurence Blairon said the court could in theory complain to the U.N. security council — which can impose sanctions — if the ruling is not obeyed.


Mexico's Ambassador to the Netherlands Santiago Onate said the decision was "a confirmation of international law."


The men whose executions have temporarily been barred are Cesar Fierro, Roberto Ramos and Osvaldo Torres Aguilera, all of whom had exhausted their U.S. appeals and whose execution date was soon to have been scheduled.


Fierro and Ramos are imprisoned in Texas, and Aguilera is in Oklahoma.


Of the three convicted men, Fierro's case is the best-known. He was 22 years old when he was convicted of the Feb. 27, 1979 shooting death of an El Paso taxi driver, Nicolas Castanon. Despite a ruling in a Texas appeals court that his confession was probably coerced, he was not granted a retrial. Fierro has been on death row in Texas longer than any other inmate.


Ramos, 48, was sentenced to death in February 1992 for killing his wife Leticia and his two youngest children, Abigail, 8, and Jonathan, 3, with a hammer.

Aguilera was convicted for the July 12, 1993, slayings of Francisco Morales and Maria Yanez during a burglary in Oklahoma City.

Mexico, which opposes the death penalty, filed its suit against the United States last month. While it asked the court to stay the execution of all 51 Mexicans on death row, the court said a stay was needed for only the three most urgent cases for now.

The court was expected to set a date Thursday for hearings to consider whether the prisoners' rights were indeed violated under the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Rights.

When the suit was filed last month, the United States argued that granting Mexico's request for a stay of all executions would be an unwarranted intrusion on the U.S. criminal justice system and U.S. sovereignty.

Elihu Lauterpacht, a lawyer for the United States, labeled the Mexican case a publicity stunt, and said that an order to stay executions in state prisons might be unenforceable for the U.S. federal government.

The Mexicans on death row in the United States are imprisoned in California, Texas, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Nevada, Ohio, Oklahoma and Oregon.
 
WORLD COURT CALLS ON FRENCH ARMY TO ENFORCE RULINGS

The Hague, Netherlands - In a move that stunned France and left the U.S. doubled over with laughter, the World Court today called on France to mobilize it's forces and plan for military action to force the U.S. into obeying the Court's orders. After a pause to change underwear, the French forewarded it's plans for surrender to the U.S. Consulate in Paris.
 
This sounds like a threat

Sandra Babcock, a lawyer for Mexico, said she expects America to comply because "these types of orders are binding on the United States." By ignoring the decision, she said, the United States would send the impression that it "didn't care about the rule of law."

"Americans traveling abroad are more vulnerable than ever at this point in time, and if the United States disregards the order of the world's highest court on an issue that directly affects Americans abroad (consular assistance), I think that sets a very dangerous precedent."

It sounds like this Babcock person is attempting to coerce US compliance by encouraging mistreatment of US citizens.
 
The World Court has no standing in our legal system. They can go drop dead. Let the executions commence. What sanctions will be imposed upon us? It is pathetically laughable!

Myu answer to the world court would be...:neener:
 
Sandra Babcock, a lawyer for Mexico, said she expects America to comply because "these types of orders are binding on the United States." By ignoring the decision, she said, the United States would send the impression that it "didn't care about the rule of law."
No, Sandra.

The U.S. doesn't care about the World Court, which itself doesn't care about the "rule of law," since it makes up bogus "law" as it goes.
 
But wait....
Didn't the arti say the WC could pertition the UN Security Council to take action like come invade us and kick our behinds and so forth......

Given the way the UNSC works...and no World Policing gets done unless the US does it....wouldn't that pretty much predispose us to invade ourselves and kick our own behinds and so forth.....

or...would the WC get the UN to get the French to call Mandela to arrange for the North Koreans to come give us a whipping, call us bad names and wage "total war".

Scary stuff.

S-
 
Someone needs to inform Sandra Babcock, a lawyer for Mexico, that the best way to keep Mexican citizens off death row is to keep them from illegally entering the United States, not by passing out "ID" cards at $28 a pop to any warm body that shows up at a consulate.
 
Why do they feel they have to even waste their time trying to tell us what to do or not do with our own criminals?:scrutiny:
 
Court spokeswoman Laurence Blairon said the court could in theory complain to the U.N. security council — which can impose sanctions — if the ruling is not obeyed.
the fool writing the article fails to mention that the US has veto power on the security council.

Just more mental masturbation by the liberal set.
 
"these types of orders are binding on the United States."

Okay, but I find it extremely unlikely that they are considered binding on Texas, by Texas. Lotsa luck, Mexico.:neener:
 
Hello All.

Yeah, I don't think it'll do that ol' boy much good here when his appeals run out. But hey, we will ship the body back to Mexico, if they want. We aim to please, you know.
 
Not only do they lack jurisdiction, the IDIOTS directed their ruling at the wrong people! I looked at it on line, and sure enough it's directed at the United States. WRONG ANSWER! None of these prisoners are on federal death row. EVEN IF the administration wanted to enforce the ruling, it could do nothing whatsoever short of a Presidential pardon. These idiot foreign lawyers don't even understand basic notions of federalism.

Hopefully we'll never agree to be part of that monkey show.
 
What a bunch of horse hockey.

Lets take a page from the Chinese and once we execute these CRIMINALS, lets send Mexico a bill for the cost of the chemicals, electricity, or gas we used in the executions. After all they weren't our Criminals.

The real crime here is that the world court actually deludes itself into thinking that the US gives a crap what they say. Let them send in the French. (Can you say NOT)


YEA THOUGH I WALK THROUGH THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH, I WILL FEAR NO EVIL.

FOR I AM THE MEANEST *** IN THE VALLEY!!!!
 
Why don't we tell the World Court the truth?

We could have shipped them back to be tried in Mexico, but we're not allowed to engage in cruel and unusual punishments such as "tossing the suspect to the Mexican legal system."
 
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