WORST firearm moment in a movie

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Ever since I was hooked up dor DirectTV 3 months ago, I've been able to watch more bad movies than I ever thought possible, and while I've seen a lot of awful gun moments in movies, none have come close to the awfulness that is the movie "Sniper".

One guy trekking around the jungle with an M40, and one with a PSG1, and another badguy trekking around with an SVD. Lots of silliness ensues, but at the moment where the good guy kills the bad with the SVD, he takes aim, and shoots him through his scope.

Well, that's a little silly, but the worst part is that when he shoots, they go to a close up of the bullet flying, and instead of it being the projectile, it's actually the ENTIRE ammunition case, bullet, casing, and all, in pristine condition.

It was just absurd and shameful, and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that none of the producers had ever shot a weapon.

 

[richyoung]

at the moment where the good guy kills the bad with the SVD, he takes aim, and shoots him through his scope.

Well, that's a little silly,

Carlos Hathcock made just such a shot against a sniper in vietnam - no doubt the inspiration for the scene...

 

[50 Freak]

If your talking about "Sniper" with Tom Beringer. They based the bullet through the scope shot from Carlos Hathcock. Who by the way really did do a shot like that through a NVA sniper that was hunting him back in Vietnam.

As for the whole bullet traveling. I don't remember that part. I always thought it was just the bullet, not the bullet + case. I'll have to check my DVD tonight.

And oh yeah. Stop dissing "Sniper" that's a pretty good movie in my book. Although Billy Zane character (guy with the PSG type rifle) was a little too "pretty" to be in the jungles of S. America.

 

[FPrice]

Although Billy Zane character (guy with the PSG type rifle) was a little too "pretty" to be in the jungles of S. America.

Yeah, but remember, he was a GS-9!

 

[Red Tornado]

The problem is that EVERY movie with a sniper has somebody getting shot through the scope. If it's a movie about the great Carlos, great. If it's not, come up with something original and appropriately cheesey for Hollywood.

I'm going to have to check the flying bullet in Sniper. That's got to be the worst ever.
RT

 

[Cesiumsponge]

The Grand Inquisitor

I remember seeing a movie on TV long ago where they fired a gun and showed an entire cartridge flying in midair. That must be it!

There was another bad gun movie (same one maybe?) where the badguy had a 50 caliber rifle that had to literally be bolted down to a rooftop because we're supposed to believe the recoil was that bad. In the scene, he was shooting at an airplane on the tarmac

 

[MAURICE]

Any movie where an actor continues to 'shoot' a gun with the slide locked back. Dumb and Dumber is one that I recall.

 

[Rupestris]

Any movie where an actor continues to 'shoot' a gun with the slide locked back. Dumb and Dumber is one that I recall.

SWAT was another.


I watched Animal House yesterday. Dorfmann loads a round into an 03A3 and aims at Flounder at about ten yarsd tops. Fires and hits the seltzer water bottle in his right hand. There was a croud of people behind him and amazingly, that water bottle stopped that round dead!

When Flounder looks down at the broken bottle you can hear what sounds like a pump guns "schlaak - schlaak" . Classic hollywood.

 

[nomadboi]

I think I remember hearing that the real life incident dramatised for "Enemy at the Gates", the battle between the Soviet and German snipers in WWII, ended with a through-the-scope shot -but that they dropped it in the film because too many other films had done that already.

 

[sm]

Way of the Gun

Scene: Jumping into the water fountain containing glass.

 

[Jeeper]

I also remember that Berringer was using a hand file on the bullet in the begining to make it symetrical. I liked the movie though

 

[Monkeyleg]

Was watching "In The Line of Duty" the other night. At the very beginning, one of the characters takes his 1911 from a drawer, racks the slide, then inserts a magazine.

Now what carry condition would that be? -1? Cocked, locked and unloaded.

 

[CajunBass]

I like the way that movie guns are always unloaded. Someone will have to rack a slide, pump a shotgun, or work a lever rifle before they shoot. Doesn't matter what's going on, the gun is unloaded.

 

[rhubarb]

Shot the enemy sniper through the scope? Hell that happens all the time, don't it? It happened in Saving Private Ryan, too, didn't it? And note how the good snipers are always hillbillies.

 

[MechAg94]

I also get tired of the constant repetition. A person with a gun has been threatening to shoot for 10 minutes. Then to emphasize the point, they always rack the slide again. No round pops out. So they were threaten someone with an unloaded gun? This is repeated all the time no matter what type of gun they are using. They will cock the hammer on a 1911 or a double action. They will pump the shotgun action. It doesn't matter.

My only problem with Enemy at the Gates was that all the action seemed to happen at about 50 yards, including the final scene.

 

[sumpnz]

Of course Hathcock didn't intentionally shoot the NVA sniper through the scope. He knew the enemy sniper was out there, and he saw a glint. He quickly shouldered his rifle and fired at the glint. When he got to where the sniper was he realized he'd dead centered the scope with the bullet entering the scope's objective lens, exiting the eye piece and entering the sniper's eye and exiting the back of his head. It was mere luck that he'd fired before the NVA sniper, and even greater luck to hit him like that since the only thing he saw was the scope glint.

And note how the good snipers are always hillbillies

Well, hillbillies grow up learning to be good shots since their ability to eat depended on shooting game. Bullets were expensive, considering the relative poverty, so only needing 1 was a big deal. The best snipers come from having such a mindset, as well as Marine Corps training.

 

[No_Brakes23]

Well, hillbillies grow up learning to be good shots since their ability to eat depended on shooting game.

That was the background that Zaitsev and Hathcock came from, and I believe Hayek the Finn did as well.

 

[Ivy Mike]

in The Punisher, our violent hero empties his 1911, then drops the spent mag, inserts a new one, then has to rack the slide.

I thought 1911's locked back when empty...at least the ones that are tuned properly.

Nicholas Cage's use of his Government model 1911 in Windtalkers was pretty unbelieveable. He managed to squeeze incredibly accurate follow up shots into his Japanese targets...many without even looking. Must have been one of the belt-fed models as he didn't seem to reload nearly enough to have been magazine fed.

 

[another okie]

According to Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad, the sniper duel story is a made up piece of Soviet propaganda. He searched for actual evidence of the story and found none, including just looking for the names used in official records. Apparently that one has to go on the same pile with the "Hitler's grandfather was Jewish story," made up to suit the war effort.

 

[PeteRR]

In a movie that I really like, Lethal Weapon, Riggs proferring up the "hollow point" that he keeps to kill himself with. The problem being it's a FMJ round. I wince whenever I see that scene.

My favorite dialogue from Lethal Weapon 2:


Vorsted, what are you doing?

Making sure I'm not standing on plastic.

 

[medmo]

Rambo....... A guy shoots around 800 rounds out of an M60 and not only does the belt NOT get any shorter he never adds to it.

 

[gunner03]

what about the steven segall movie were he shoots the arrow out of the air. The bullet has no marks on it and no spin.

 

[Plumber576]

I happen to own sniper, and i checked the scene out. the case definitely was not in the shot. It is a quick flash, so i paused it and took a look.

Also, billy zane does not have an PSG-1, but he has an SR9.
http://www.hkpro.com/sr9.htm

 

[WvaBill]

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Well, hillbillies grow up learning to be good shots since their ability to eat depended on shooting game.

That was the background that Zaitsev and Hathcock came from, and I believe Hayek the Finn did as well.

Don't forget Alvin York.

On topic, in True Lies the SMG, (MAC?), falling down the steps firing well-aimed bursts on each step.

 

[ETCss Phil McCrackin]

I enjoyed the scene in the original Matrix, where Smith shoots Neo with his D. Eagle and in the top down view of the weapon in recoil, you can clearly see the crimped blanks inside the weapon! I complain about that every time I see it, which my wife HATES!