sarduy
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Would you buy firearm responsible for a death?
do you own a mosin or mauser?
do you own a mosin or mauser?
Would you buy firearm responsible for a death?
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royal barnes
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One of our rookie officers committed suicide with his service revolver, a 4" Smith '66. It was eventually returned to the armory. I was being promoted from detective to sergeant and had to turn in my 2 1/2" Smith 66 for a full size duty weapon. The armory officer advised me he only had one in inventory and explained the circumstances asking how I felt about taking that one. I carried the gun until we transitioned to semiautos. I purchased it for $150 and it is now my nightstand gun. No, it wasn't a problem. The gun did nothing wrong.
Pilgrim
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Our town's 'not-so-bright' recovered from the Sheriff the revolver his father used to kill himself.
He then walked around town showing it off saying, "It's virtually brand new; it's only been fired once."
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He then walked around town showing it off saying, "It's virtually brand new; it's only been fired once."
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Deus Machina
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It depends on the side it was on, but I wouldn't turn away only for that reason.
If I was shopping for Lugers, and had a choice between a never-unholstered bring-back or one fired twice into a Brit and captured after the war, I would just personally buy the one that had never been out of the holster.
On the other side, I have a very early, issued M44 rifle that I feel just fine about.
I also have a '42 Carcano--an Italian WW2 rifle. No importer's mark, so I'm pretty sure it's a bringback. I think that one might pull even.
I, personally, wouldn't feel good about owning a gun that was used to kill someone I know. Not so much distrusting the gun, but it would be the same as owning the motorcycle they fell off of. Something to fix, respect, and remember, but I wouldn't want that particular object as a reminder.
If I was shopping for Lugers, and had a choice between a never-unholstered bring-back or one fired twice into a Brit and captured after the war, I would just personally buy the one that had never been out of the holster.
On the other side, I have a very early, issued M44 rifle that I feel just fine about.
I also have a '42 Carcano--an Italian WW2 rifle. No importer's mark, so I'm pretty sure it's a bringback. I think that one might pull even.
I, personally, wouldn't feel good about owning a gun that was used to kill someone I know. Not so much distrusting the gun, but it would be the same as owning the motorcycle they fell off of. Something to fix, respect, and remember, but I wouldn't want that particular object as a reminder.
Twiki357
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It wouldn’t bother me. In fact it has always disappointed me that I couldn’t get my grandfathers S&W 38 when he pasted (I was only 10 at the time.) My uncle took it and no-one ever saw or heard about it again. My grandfather was a Chicago Cop during prohibition, so who knows.
shooter429
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Of course
In fact, depending on who fired the shot and recieved the bullet, I might pay more. What if you could buy the gun that was used on Bin Laden, for example (I know it won' happen, but as an example...).
Shooter429
In fact, depending on who fired the shot and recieved the bullet, I might pay more. What if you could buy the gun that was used on Bin Laden, for example (I know it won' happen, but as an example...).
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451 Detonics
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One of my carry guns was used by a man to commit suicide, doesn't bother me in the least.
It would'nt bother me either. I had a friend of mine who bought a 9mm Luger for a $100 because the man just wanted to get rid of the gun even though it was handed down from his father; his son committed sideways with pistol and he coud'nt stand to look at it anymore. It is a very nice authentic piece even though it has that terrible history. Come to think of it I would probably have to get rid of it too if I was wearing his shoes.
nwilliams
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I'm sure I own a couple milsurps that were used in war, impossible to know if they were responsible for a death or not.
Guns used in suicide I'd probably pass on. Anything else is fair game unless I know it's a murder weapon in which case I wouldn't want to implicate myself by being in possession of it.
Guns used in suicide I'd probably pass on. Anything else is fair game unless I know it's a murder weapon in which case I wouldn't want to implicate myself by being in possession of it.
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Cop Bob
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With me, it is more of circumstance thing.
I have an 1871 New Army that was carried by a relative that was an E-Texas Lawman in the day.. It is supposed to have been used to kill several men... It is a cherished family Heirloom...
I have another pistol that was used to same my life.... It has an honored place in my collection..
There was another opportunity to obtain a pistol that a co-worker went sideways with... the two Homicide detectives that worked the case were friends of mine.. when the investigation was finished they contacted the family and offered the pistol to back to them, they told them to release it to me, that deceased would probably want me to have it... I got a call from one of the detectives, he asked me to meet him for lunch.. When we met, he had the pistol and wanted to give it to me... I declined, and told him no, he could keep it... he now has it, he was tickled to get it, but he didn't know the guy... To me, it would just be a bad memory.. one that I don't need..
I have an 1871 New Army that was carried by a relative that was an E-Texas Lawman in the day.. It is supposed to have been used to kill several men... It is a cherished family Heirloom...
I have another pistol that was used to same my life.... It has an honored place in my collection..
There was another opportunity to obtain a pistol that a co-worker went sideways with... the two Homicide detectives that worked the case were friends of mine.. when the investigation was finished they contacted the family and offered the pistol to back to them, they told them to release it to me, that deceased would probably want me to have it... I got a call from one of the detectives, he asked me to meet him for lunch.. When we met, he had the pistol and wanted to give it to me... I declined, and told him no, he could keep it... he now has it, he was tickled to get it, but he didn't know the guy... To me, it would just be a bad memory.. one that I don't need..
swiftak
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depends on who it did in.
TempestP226
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Well, at least you'd know it functions as designed and doesn't have pacifistic tendencies in a moment of need.
Seriously though, would you question whether the lead in the wheel weights on your car was previously recovered from someone's body? Or the copper wiring/pipes in your house? Or if the paper clips on your desk were previously part of a saturday night special that was chopped up after the trial?
Doesn't really matter to me. Between my M1, SKS, Gew98 and Springfield 1898 there's a good chance one of them fired a kill shot. I just wouldn't dwell on it.
Seriously though, would you question whether the lead in the wheel weights on your car was previously recovered from someone's body? Or the copper wiring/pipes in your house? Or if the paper clips on your desk were previously part of a saturday night special that was chopped up after the trial?
Doesn't really matter to me. Between my M1, SKS, Gew98 and Springfield 1898 there's a good chance one of them fired a kill shot. I just wouldn't dwell on it.
Jonah71
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I wouldn't want a gun that a personal friend or family member used to commit suicide (unfortunately there are several), but other than that, No. I wouldn't have a problem.
leadcounsel
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Would make zero difference to me. I also own milsurps that surely were a tool of death.
I would buy a car, house, or heck even take a heart transplant that came from a death...
I would buy a car, house, or heck even take a heart transplant that came from a death...
Nope, it's just a tool. It's my preference to have one that wasn't used in violence, but I wouldn't let it stop me from getting a good deal on a gun. When buying used, do you really even know for sure whether or not it was used to shoot someone?
TCB in TN
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I own a Carcano, and a 1903, one I am pretty certain has taken one or more lives, the other is at least likely to have. I look at it like this
| don't get mad when someone tells me how hot my wife is, I consider it a compliment that my wife is a looker. (I would rather have one people want to look at than one no one wants to.) Having a gun that was used to take a life is a similar thing, would rather have one that worked well enough to be used than one that was a junker and not worthy.
| don't get mad when someone tells me how hot my wife is, I consider it a compliment that my wife is a looker. (I would rather have one people want to look at than one no one wants to.) Having a gun that was used to take a life is a similar thing, would rather have one that worked well enough to be used than one that was a junker and not worthy.
Hamish
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Ernest Hemingway killed himself with his favorite shotgun. That's a gun I'd love to have, despite its morbid past. Actually, I'd love to have any of Hemingway's guns, but that shotgun would be the center of any conversation.
Otherwise, I wouldn't care if I purchased a firearm used against another person.
Otherwise, I wouldn't care if I purchased a firearm used against another person.
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