Would you OC an empty holster?

[Grmlin]

I had done some early morning practice before going to classes and was running late, secured my firearm in the lock box and went into the school with the holster on, nobody noticed or didn't care. We did have 3 security drills that week.

 

[RustyShackelford]

No....

I'd say no.
I'm not in the "hey make a statement" camp.
The Yankee Marshal of Youtube.com encourages support of the 2A & gun owners open carrying on the 2nd of each month.
He says CCW license holder or armed citizen could tote a "empty holster" too.
Holsters hold guns. I don't walk around with a motorcycle helmet without a motorcycle.

To do it at your workplace may get you a few glares/stares & some may be from CCW holders or hunters.

Rusty

 

[Leanwolf]

No.

L.W.

 

[USAF_Vet]

I have kept my CC IWB holster on at work, but would not consider an OC OWB holster.

What purpose would it serve? Its enough that I secure my pistol in my truck, don't need to advertise the fact that its there.

 

[GBExpat]

Do you like working there?

 

[Tirod]

Nobody would want my job, and they would only fill it with two part timers with no benefits. Retail has taken a huge hit with the implementation of the ACA. My days are already numbered.

Point of the question was to see where everyone's priorities lay. I've mentioned it in other threads, just sayin': What price are we selling out our rights?

Seems a paycheck and food on the table are all it takes.

We are apparently running scared that our interest in firearms somehow means we would get fired if it were known at our job - which is also a limit to our free speech. Not asking anyone to be a martyr, but you have admit, it's not because you are supporting the 2A.

In contrast - plenty dress up for various reasons at work, sport various pins, accessories, even don costumes for Halloween. Those espouse all sorts of political, religious, and personal views.

Maybe some of us are making more of it than HR is. Maybe we give HR too much credit, or worry too much about our employer looking for some reason to fire us.

So, it's ok to wear rainbow jewelry or t-shirts to express an affiliation with a lifestyle, but God forbid you wear anything gun related? Really? Things are that out of balance in your company?

I seriously doubt the personnel handbook is written that way.

I see it as the logical extension of getting a public education - in the day, students who drove to work in their own truck, who had a deer rifle in the exposed gun rack, were going hunting after school, after likely going hunting that morning before classes.

Now, drop a .22 cartridge out of your backpack, and you get suspended because of the No Tolerance policy. That's after the meet and greet with the local SERT Team.

Move on from there, and you carry the same overreaction to your job and life. You've been trained and conditioned to never publicly show you own a firearm.

Have we lost you in the war for our rights because you've already surrendered? It's too bad I didn't make this a poll with an age category linked to the answers. It would be interesting to see those results.

 

[Warp]

Point of the question was to see where everyone's priorities lay. I've mentioned it in other threads, just sayin': What price are we selling out our rights?

Seems a paycheck and food on the table are all it takes.

Uh...I beg your pardon?

Even if we ignore the underlying everything here...we are talking about a private business policy and you making the choice to follow it in order to do business with them.

That is not selling out any Right.

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

What price are we selling out our rights?

Seems a paycheck and food on the table are all it takes.

Turns out, the need to eat is a mighty powerful motivator. Over rides all sorts of other desires and causes otherwise rational people to do unthinkable things. Casting it aside so lightly shows a basic lack of understanding of human motivations.

We are apparently running scared that our interest in firearms somehow means we would get fired if it were known at our job - which is also a limit to our free speech

You've moved the goal posts on us. Your original post wasn't about letting people know you have an interest in firearms. Your original post was about wearing an empty holster to work as a form of protest against the policies of your employer. That's two vastly different things.

In contrast - plenty dress up for various reasons at work, sport various pins, accessories, even don costumes for Halloween. Those espouse all sorts of political, religious, and personal views.

None of which are protests against your employers policies and are probably directly sanctioned by if not organized by the employer.

So, it's ok to wear rainbow jewelry or t-shirts to express an affiliation with a lifestyle, but God forbid you wear anything gun related? Really?

A Glock T-shirt or Cabelas hat? Yeah sure, you're probably fine with that. An empty holster? Completely different issue.

Have we lost you in the war for our rights because you've already surrendered?

It's this kind of jabbering that gives rise to pejoratives such as "gun nut" and allows them to find anchor in the general public,

It's a logical fallacy in that you present a false choice in which a person is either 110% all the time advocating for gun rights, or they aren't even trying at all.

Here's one to chew of for a bit and figure out. I'm one of the most pro-gun rights guys I know. I carry everywhere. On weekends I do firearms instruction, often times for charity. Heck, I'm sitting at my desk right now wearing a 1911 on my duty belt. (private company mind you) In the room next to me there's a guy wearing a .357 wheel gun and down the hall are two more armed guys. Just over 100 of them working at various locations around the state. But if one of my people who doesn't have express permission from me to be wearing a gun comes in here wearing an empty holster, he's going to go have a talk with that man with the wheel gun and if he doesn't comply with losing that rig he's going to get term'd for insubordination. You see, this isn't about your 2A rights. I don't care about them. You also don't have the right to free speech here or the freedom of assembly. This is my building. This is my business. It's my rules or the highway and I don't give a hoot how unfair some people think that is while I'm paying them to do a job.

 

[Onward Allusion]

Only if I wanted to look like I should be committed. It ain't a political statement. It is a sign that one is a moron.

 

[John828]

It ain't a political statement. It is a sign that one is a moron.

Truth

 

[herrwalther]

I wouldn't open carry an occupied holster let alone an empty one. There are other and more effective ways of politicizing gun rights.

 

[moxie]

Bad idea.

If you stick your finger in your boss' eye, don't be surprised when he puts his boot in your fanny.

 

[Havok7416]

We aren't "selling out our rights". As many others have pointed out already, a PRIVATE business has every right to restrict anything they choose. There MIGHT be an argument for those that work for the government, but it's not likely to gain any traction.

The only place I've ever seen a gun on an employee is the gun store/range. Why advertise?

 

[Spats McGee]

So, how about a Wear An Empty Holster to Work Day?

Nope. If I want to make a political statement, I'll do it on my own time.

 

[45_auto]

My workplace has rules against any firearm on the premises, likely, your's does, too, including where you park your car. I considered wearing an empty holster to express my views on the subject.

Point of the question was to see where everyone's priorities lay. I've mentioned it in other threads, just sayin': What price are we selling out our rights?

You seem to be confused about firearm rights and private property rights.

Do you also believe that a theater owner requiring you to be quiet during a show is violating your first amendment right to free speech?

Do you believe that the first amendment gives you and your friends the right to peaceably assemble in my living room?

Do you believe that a "No Trespassing" sign on private property is violating you and your buddies first amendment right to peaceably assemble if you want to have a meeting there?

 

[CajunBass]

I'm sure your boss would be REALLY impressed.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Woody from Toy Story open carries an empty holster...and he was in three movies joking aside i wouldnt do it because theres no way one person doing that would change a company's policy. IMO.

 

[zxcvbob]

I may try it again. If anybody asks, I will just truthfully say it's an experiment to see if anyone notices.

The company itself is *very* anti-gun (I think almost all big corps are), the workers and even the managers are mostly just "meh" about it.

 

[230RN]

Sounds like you're looking for someone to confirm the righteousness of your desires.

Tell you what. Do it with an ankle holster so nobody sees it.

Terry, 230RN

 

[barnbwt]

I wouldn't wear one to work, but that's because Draconian consequences would be assured. Big corporate campuses are simply too restrictive of human rights for us to make such brazen displays without retribution, not unlike many countries we'd rather not visit. Only when laws are in place that actually protect me from the corporation, as we are increasingly erecting against the official government, would it be a wise mode of making a statement.

Most of us are still in the 'shut up and keep your head down' phase, plotting in the shadows to reign in our keepers

TCB

 

[Schwing]

I really love where I work. I can carry as I like without a wink.

In your shoes, I would not carry an empty holster. You won't be making a good statement, just fostering bad juju with the boss.

 

[Warp]

Sounds like you're looking for someone to confirm the righteousness of your desires.

Tell you what. Do it with an ankle holster so nobody sees it.

Terry, 230RN

People would still notice an openly carried ankle holster.

 

[Akita1]

I CC at work frequently, unless I'm getting on a plane that day. We don't have a stated policy. I have, however, worn an exposed empty holster into a hospital after a minor injury suffered at my hunting camp that required a few stitches. The cop at the door noticed right away but I think since I was in camo and snake boots he just nodded and said "glad you remembered." Otherwise, a holster is just a price of leather, plastic, nylon, kydex, etc. when it's empty, IMHO.

 

[Warp]

I CC at work frequently, unless I'm getting on a plane that day. We don't have a stated policy. I have, however, worn an exposed empty holster into a hospital after a minor injury suffered at my hunting camp that required a few stitches. The cop at the door noticed right away but I think since I was in camo and snake boots he just nodded and said "glad you remembered." Otherwise, a holster is just a price of leather, plastic, nylon, kydex, etc. when it's empty, IMHO.

Hospitals are off limits in FL?

That sucks.

 

[zxcvbob]

In your shoes, I would not carry an empty holster.

Yeah, that sounds really uncomfortable. Might be okay in a boot, though...