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Would You Schofield?
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Good price, if it's new. They're $1250 at DGW.
I love the S&W single actions and have five of them. The Schofield and Frontier are my favorites, followed by the Russian and American. I don't find the American to be comfortable at all. I like them but they don't handle as fast as an SAA. No advantage in reloading speed if you know how to handle an SAA.
CR0596 Dixie/Uberti 1875 Schofield Revolver
This revolver was designed by Major George W. Schofield for use by the United States Army and was chambered for the .45 S&W Schofield cartridge. Has 2 piece grips with a European walnut stock. Frame is blued steel. This is the .45 LC Wells Fargo model and has a 5" blued , round, rifles barrel...
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I love the S&W single actions and have five of them. The Schofield and Frontier are my favorites, followed by the Russian and American. I don't find the American to be comfortable at all. I like them but they don't handle as fast as an SAA. No advantage in reloading speed if you know how to handle an SAA.
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that’s a New Price! and looks just like yoursGood price, if it's new. They're $1250 at DGW.
CR0596 Dixie/Uberti 1875 Schofield Revolver
This revolver was designed by Major George W. Schofield for use by the United States Army and was chambered for the .45 S&W Schofield cartridge. Has 2 piece grips with a European walnut stock. Frame is blued steel. This is the .45 LC Wells Fargo model and has a 5" blued , round, rifles barrel...www.dixiegunworks.com
I love the S&W single actions and have five of them. The Schofield and Frontier are my favorites, followed by the Russian and American. I don't find the American to be comfortable at all. I like them but they don't handle as fast as an SAA. No advantage in reloading speed if you know how to handle an SAA.
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Only 6 guns a month until then?
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No judgement here. Just envious 
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years ago, a wise man told be “Being Envious is a waste of energy” — I have lived by that philosophyNo judgement here. Just envious
Me and the wife made an agreement, I can buy whatever gun I want in cash, if I drive Uber. So for over a year, I get up at 3am-4am to drive people to the airport in my Prius. That’s how I get my gun money! PRIUS POWER!
but some of these members got guns that make me drew from both sides of my mouth.
I have one of the S&W 2000 Schofields, chambered for the 45 S&W cartridge.
S&W touted them as being "exact reproductions of the original". They lied. The hammer is completely changed from original because some safety Nazi decided this gun needed a frame mounted, floating firing pin. Despite being chambered for the original black powder cartridge, S&W decided to do away with the cylinder bushing (as mentioned above reference the Italian reproductions) which would deflect BP fouling and keep the gun running. My first outing with this gun and black powder ammunition resulted in the gun jamming so solidly by the 4th round the hammer could not be cocked, even while turning the cylinder by hand to assist.
The solution turned out to be Black M-Z powder which smokes satisfactorily but does not foul (and doesn't smell right ether - lol). I'm a history buff and bought the gun to learn what handling and shooting the original gun and ammo was like. This gun looks right except for the hammer and even has all the correct markings. I find it awkward and difficult to cock one handed, and as someone else said the original style sights are just awful. I'm keeping it for now but I'm getting old and broken and it may become more bother than it's worth and be sold down the proverbial river.
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S&W touted them as being "exact reproductions of the original". They lied. The hammer is completely changed from original because some safety Nazi decided this gun needed a frame mounted, floating firing pin. Despite being chambered for the original black powder cartridge, S&W decided to do away with the cylinder bushing (as mentioned above reference the Italian reproductions) which would deflect BP fouling and keep the gun running. My first outing with this gun and black powder ammunition resulted in the gun jamming so solidly by the 4th round the hammer could not be cocked, even while turning the cylinder by hand to assist.
The solution turned out to be Black M-Z powder which smokes satisfactorily but does not foul (and doesn't smell right ether - lol). I'm a history buff and bought the gun to learn what handling and shooting the original gun and ammo was like. This gun looks right except for the hammer and even has all the correct markings. I find it awkward and difficult to cock one handed, and as someone else said the original style sights are just awful. I'm keeping it for now but I'm getting old and broken and it may become more bother than it's worth and be sold down the proverbial river.
Dave
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I live about 2.5hrs from DGW.
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Did S&W actually make the gun, or was done in Italy?
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DWG has the best conversation guns! Show us that LeMat one more time!!!Good price, if it's new. They're $1250 at DGW.
CR0596 Dixie/Uberti 1875 Schofield Revolver
This revolver was designed by Major George W. Schofield for use by the United States Army and was chambered for the .45 S&W Schofield cartridge. Has 2 piece grips with a European walnut stock. Frame is blued steel. This is the .45 LC Wells Fargo model and has a 5" blued , round, rifles barrel...www.dixiegunworks.com
I love the S&W single actions and have five of them. The Schofield and Frontier are my favorites, followed by the Russian and American. I don't find the American to be comfortable at all. I like them but they don't handle as fast as an SAA. No advantage in reloading speed if you know how to handle an SAA.
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No, it's made by Uberti.
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I would pass. There is just too much iron in front of the grip to make it balance even close to what I prefer.
They cost more than a SAA because they are a more complicated design.
They cost more than a SAA because they are a more complicated design.
One thing for sure that has remained true is that prices will always go up. Twenty years ago my King Ranch was $35000 now they are $80K. If you don't buy it now the opportunity will not come around again at this price. That is a beautiful gun and I would pay the price now for it than 1 or 2 years down the road which will be more.
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Yup, when the 3 inch LCRx .22 came out it was about $400 and I hesitated. Bought last year for $500.
When I saw others reporting about the Taurus .327's being good, I snatched one up as I know the price on those will go up just like everything else.
The only guns I wait on now are those that have come out in the last 6 months as I prefer to wait for the issues with new production to be worked out and allow the employees making the parts and assembling them to get experience doing it. .410 KSG is on my list, but I'm waiting until the end of Summer before buying one.
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I been shooting last years gun haul this year. Having a blast, and plan to shoot ever collect gun I have, get them scratched up, scuffed!
If I get this Schofield, it would probably sit for another year before shooting.
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Close but not quite.
ALL the old #3 Smith and Wesson Top Break revolvers used a cylinder 1 7/16" long. S&W made over 150,000 Russian models with cylinders that long. This length cylinder was perfectly suited for the 44 S&W American cartridge with the heeled bullet, as well as the later 44 Russian Cartridge. Colt had government contracts for the Single Action Army dating from 1873. The SAA of course was originally chambered for 45 Colt. When S&W approached the government for a revolver contract in 1875, the government specified the caliber had to be 45. This was not a problem, opening up the chambers and bore for a 45 caliber cartridge, but the 1 7/16" cylinder was too short for the 45 Colt cartridge. S&W was not about to retool for a longer cylinder and frame while still producing all those Russian revolvers. So a compromise was arrived at. The new Schofield model would be 45 Caliber, but the Schofield cartridge was a little bit shorter, to fit into the 1 7/16" cylinders.
When Uberti decided to make a replica of the Schofield model, they chambered it for the longer 45 Colt cartridge. In order to do so the cylinder had to be longer than the original 1 7/16" cylinders. Rather than lengthening the frame for the longer cylinder, the gas collar at the front of the cylinder was reduced, so the longer cylinder could fit in the new frames. The gas collar was not completely removed as some folks think, but it was shortened so it no longer did a good job of shielding the cylinder arbor from Black Powder fouling blasted out of the barrel/cylinder gap.
This is an original Smith and Wesson Scofield, 1st Model. It left the factory in 1875.
This 1st Model also shipped in 1875.
This is the cylinder from an original S&W Schofield revolver. Note the pronounced gas collar pressed onto the front of the cylinder.
This is the cylinder removed from the frame. Note the spring loaded extractor rod will fit INSIDE the hollow arbor, while the gas collar will ride outside the arbor.
Here they are assembled. Note the front of the gas collar contacts the frame considerably in front of the barrel/cylinder gap. Fouling blasted out of the barrel cylinder gap blasts out in a plane. So the arbor is protected from the powder fouling by the horizontal separation between the barrel/cylinder gap and the front of the gas collar.
This system worked quite well.
When Uberti and ASM shortened the gas collar at the front of the cylinder, Black Powder fouling blasted out of the barrel/cylinder gap was able to find its way onto the arbor, causing the revolver to bind up after not too many shots.
The Schofield Model of 2000 was chambered for the 45 Schofield cartridge, but S&W did not anticipate them being fired with Black Powder, so the gas collar was shortened, and they do not perform well with Black Powder.
Personally I prefer the frame shape of the S&W New Model Number Three. This pair is chambered for the most popular cartridge of that model, 44 Russian, and I can shoot them all day long with cartridges loaded with Black Powder without any binding.
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Driftwood Johnson
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The S&W Model of 2000 was made by S&W in Springfield Mass. Not Italian.
Jim Watson
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They made a few .44-40 Frontiers and a very few .38-40s with 1 9/16” cylinders. Not great sellers, some .44-40s got .44 Russian cylinders of the same length for Japanese sales.
Driftwood Johnson
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Yes, I am aware of that.
That is why I still drive a 20 year old truck. LOL.
CraigC
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I drive a 20yr old truck because I got tired of $400 oil changes on that $80k truck. Along with all sorts of unnecessary electronic crap and an engine that required a NASA engineer to figure out.
Unfortunately all this trucks now have all kinds of electronic devices out of the factory, even the basic models. I guess it is the future so that everyone can continue to take selfies while driving. Even worse they don't make my 5.4L V8 engine anymore, they have a 5.0L V8 but it is not the same. I would have to buy a V6 twin turbo which is quite impressive as I have a Class B RV Ford Transit with the V6 twin turbo HD that smokes the Mercedes Sprinter engines. And I won't buy diesel because I don't want to have to carry DEF on board all the time.I drive a 20yr old truck because I got tired of $400 oil changes on that $80k truck. Along with all sorts of unnecessary electronic crap and an engine that required a NASA engineer to figure out.
