Would you temporarily move to an Anti-Gun country if the money was good?

[Darth Ruger]

Yeah, I'd guess I'd have to sell the house, move the safe to my parents and then buy something new when I get back.

The money would have to be astronomical (is that a word?) to make me do it. Sounds like you're going to be giving up an awful lot, going to a lot of trouble, and spending a lot of money just to do it. Sell your house, move, then move again and buy another house, in only a year or two? The job would basically have to make me rich in a year or two before I'd agree to all that. Too much trouble and expense otherwise. Not to mention you'll be giving up your right to defend yourself, and probably be facing charges if you actually had the gall to fight back if mugged.

I've been to England (my family is from there). To me, it's not worth all that.

 

[Thin Black Line]

You have to consider this way: While you're gone a lot could happen to
the US anyway and things could get worse. The US government could
completely ignore major portions of the Constitution, it could engage in
an expensive never-ending war overseas based on misinformation or
disinformation and then start including more countries on the list to
attack next, a natural disaster could hit at the same time, and then
confiscation of civilian firearms begins. Meanwhile, the rest of the First
World nations look at us like we've become come sort of banana republic.
Oh, wait, that's already happened!

 

[0007]

Did it for five years. Middle East. Guns did just fine in the safe, plus I have a bunch of kits to build now that I'm back in the US. IMO everybody should have to spend some time overseas. Make you appreciate _here_ regardless of how screwed up you think things are here...

 

[Standing Wolf]

Not me, thanks all the same. I used to live in the People's Republic of California. Life in the United States is much better.

 

[No_Brakes23]

I live in a faily draconian state as far as RKBA is concerned, but I would not move to New York, New Jersey or Massachusetts even for good money.

Australia, on the other hand is a different story.

First off, out of all the countires I have been to, Oz felt the most friendly and comfortable. Second, it ain't anywhere near as dangerous as the good ole U.S. of A. They had all of about 59 people who died from GSWs last year, IIRC. Third, while RKBA is severly limited, shooting sports are not out of reach at all. Ozzies are still actually allowed to own some firearms, unlike Brits.

WA and Tasmania are simply gorgeous, and the friendliness of the locals rivals southern hospitality.

I would take a temp assignment to Aus, (If I could take the wife and kids,) for some good money, and simply play the odds concerning personal protection. (It ain't like I can CCW here in Cali, anyway.)

No way in hell I would move to a less gun-friendly part of the U.S., though.

 

[Scoupe]

Would definitely consider Oz. Have met quite few competitive shooters from there. Good folks. You will have plenty of opportunities to shoot while living "down under" for a couple years.

No matter how much you love the good 'ol USA, living in another country for a while can really open yours eyes to a lot of things - both good and bad. It's a highly recommended experience.

 

[dakotasin]

Would you pass up on a sweet job with awesome pay in another country to keep your ability to RKBA?

yes, i would pass on the job. every single time.

that's just me, though... in the end, you have to do what makes ya happy.

 

[GAMALOT]

I live in a faily draconian state as far as RKBA is concerned, but I would not move to New York, New Jersey or Massachusetts even for good money.

No way in hell I would move to a less gun-friendly part of the U.S., though.

Wow is this funny! You have me rolling on the floor. Been in NY State all my life and have had a CCW since I am 18. My wife has a CCW and most all of my friends and family do too. The requirement is to be a resident and have no felony convictions.
I think you must be mistaking NY State with the "PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF NY CITY" Thats the part the rest of us would gladly send to KALIPHONYA.
I have no problems with anyone who wants to leave the USA for good or just temporarily for what ever reason they like. Chances are most who want to go are registered voters who nullify the votes of those who love it here.
Gary

 

[Ryder]

Me? No I would not go there. Money comes and goes, it is not a motivator for me. Lots of things in my life are more important than money.

 

[Stauble]

australia might not be too bad. rumor has it that you can still own guns, its just limited.
the only other countries id go to is Ireland or Switzerland. i have some distant relatives in both places. plus in Switizerland you can still have guns.
i think you can in Ireland too but its limited.
UK would b a definete N O though
if its only temporary id go to Australia. could be fun there

 

[Radagast]

You can shoot and own guns in OZ as a foreign national with residency, you would need to join a club and apply for a licence. You cannot carry a firearm for self defence or keep a loaded firearm at home. Basically hunting and target shooting only. No semi auto rifles but semi auto pistols are OK.

You should note that the tax rates here are probably higher than at home and the cost of housing can be a lot higher. make sure you will be better off after tax and expenses before signing on the dotted line. Some monthly rental rates I've seen quoted in Texas would be a weeks rent here in New South Wales.

Medical treatment is free and of good quality. There are private hospitals if you want to jump the waiting lists.

Property crime rates and assaults are higher than in the states, murder rates are lower.

There is an active forum at http://www.ipsc.org.au/phpBB2/ where you should be able to get info on licencing relevant to the state you will be posted to.

There is plenty of info at http://www.ssaa.org.au/ which is our equivalent of the NRA.

If you like hunting and can afford the cash we have six variety of deer, wild horses (Brumbies), donkeys, camels, buffalo, wild cattle, pigs, foxes, hares, goats, rabbits, feral cats, feral dogs, native dogs, wild geese and wild ducks.

Kangaroos can also be hunted on properties with a culling permit.

Organised target shooting includes, IPSC, ICORE, Action Match, Single Action Shooting Society, Palma, Shotgun and ISSF matches.

 

[ExtremeDooty]

Last year I needed a job and money. During my job search, I didn't even look at ads from CA, NY, MA, etc. so I don't even know how much money I might have passed up.

I got lucky and ended up in beautiful Colorado. I don't regret my decision one little bit.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Dear Abbot:

Dear Rockrvr1:

Yes, I'd move. Having fun in life sometimes requires $$$ so get your ducats and skedaddle when the cow is dry. There'll be time enough to spend on and play with toys.

Abbot.

 

[Darth Ruger]

If you like hunting and can afford the cash...

How much does it cost to hunt?

 

[J Miller]

I moved from Arizona to Illinois thinking the money would be better .
Biggest mistake I've ever made in my life :banghead: .
Now I lay awake at night hating this place and trying to figure a way to leave.

Where's my sign .......


Joe

 

[StephenT]

I'd go for it. I was overseas for two years, in Chad Central Africa of all places. Just grease up your guns and put them in storage for a few years. You can always visit the UK later, so I'd give Australia a try.

As a side note, be careful to read the fine print of your company's policy concerning expatriates and taxation. If you're outside the US for more than 330 consecutives days, the IRS exempts you, as a US citizen, from taxes for the first $80,000. Some companies try to cash in on the tax exemption that the employee, not the company, is entitled to. Be sure your company doesn't take that money or try to make you pay the country's taxes, which are often higher than in the US. I learned this the hard way, so be sure to ask them about it before you accept the position.

 

[Byron Quick]

Not only won't I go there for the money but I won't visit either. Including the states that claim the right to disarm me.

 

[jamz]

Yeah, I'd do it, but it would be hard to do it for more than a year. Two years, even harder, but if the money is there.....

Living abroad is a great experience.

-james

 

[Ryder]

Don't get blinded by large numbers and forget to take the exchange rate into account.

 

[chaim]

Yes, I would move to another country temporarily (depending upon the country) and not just for money. I think anyone who has the opportunity to live elsewhere for a while should do it. Whether you are talking about studying for a year or two, working for a year or two, or even just travelling for a summer it is well worth it. If I could afford to go a year or two without working I'd go learn in Israel in a heartbeat.

It would be an interesting experience. Remember, the happiest and most interesting people when we get old are those with stories about things they experienced, not those who say "I could have...".

 

[No_Brakes23]

I think you must be mistaking NY State with the "PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF NY CITY"

Guilty as charged. In my defense, any job in NY state that would outdo Cali pay would probably be in NYC.

Oh and technically Cali has CCW, too. Sean Penn has one, after all, and Dianne Feinstein used to.

 

[kikilee]

I would go. Two years will pass quickly. Heck, I did 4 years in the military during Vietnam and it went by so fast you'd thought I was having FUN! I wasn't. Sounds like your GF is onboard. Oil the guns and get them ready for long term storage. Go make some large money for a couple of years and come back home. I tell you from experience, life is a lot more interesting when you have money in the bank. I did hand to mouth for several lean years during college and right after and much prefer to have the large cushion. See a new toy I want, I can go buy it. One thing to keep in mind on the down side; after a couple of years, you WILL be talking funny; at least you will sound funny to all your friends in the states.

 

[Janitor]

Yes. I'd move to a gun unfriendly country (or state here in the US for that matter) if it was temporary, and if the money was right.

Depends on why you own guns... if it's just for home defense like me, well...probably less of a need for a shotgun if no one else has firearms either.

Darth Ruger mentioned this point too.

Was this meant as humor? It's not like you actually believe it, is it?

 

[Radagast]

Darth Ruger, hunting for pigs, goats, rabbits, hares, cats, dogs,roos is generally free if you can pass a land owners scrutiny. Remember these are considered to be feral animals that destroy the farmers cash crop or take food from his domestic animals. Australia is an arid country so feed is not always plentiful.

Deer are a game species, expect to pay a guide fee to shoot Rusa, Samba, Chital, Hog, Fallow,and I can't remember the other one.

Buffalo & banteng are an expensive game species, I've no idea of cost, I assume it would be several thousand dollars as all shooting occurs on private property and requires a guide.
Camel, brumbies & donkeys are ferals, but again usually access is via a guide on private property. You can pay to go on a professional cull of these species where you would expect to kill several hundred head at once.

ken

 

[Spiphel Rike]

Temporary would probably be a good thing for ya. I spose you'd probably appreciate a holiday to somewhere with a lot of guns. If you come to Australia, do some kangaroo shooting, that's a good pastime.

If nothing else, like the other posters have said, experience life somewhere aside from the US to appreciate your own freedoms.