Wow.... My Best Friend Is A Total Moron!

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It could have been worse. I know a older gentleman who was in a similar situation. I personally did not know him at this time, but he told me about it after we met a few years ago at a block part. He was in a panic after his father passed away, with a closet full of nice guns including a mint M1 Garand his father brought back from his service in WWII. Since he was not a gun person, he did not have a Massachusetts firearms license so he had to get rid of the guns ASAP. He sold all of them to his son, he really needed the money at the time, for next to nothing. His son then turned all the guns in to the police department to have them scraped. Pretty sure the gun would have been scrapped since that Police department is know for scrapping guns turned in. It really pained me to hear this story. I wish I knew him at the time is father died, I would have at least bought the M1 for market value.
 
I'm 16, and when I shot an AR-15 my only complaint was that it didn't have wood furniture. Wood is better at long matches, if you ask me, because it doesn't get as sweaty as the slip-n-slide that is the mattey mattel. Anyway, is that earlier poster serious about being the guy who paid $100 for it? I wish I had half that guy's luck...:eek:

There should be a law that says you can kick any anti who scraps a mint M1 in the balls. Better yet, reinstate the draft for them. :evil:
 
can't someone on the gunnie side set up a buy back. think of it. person has guns, doesn't like guns, sells 'em for cheap to the gunnie buy back. then all the gunnies go walking down the ailse to pick up some nice guns.
*drool*
 
After reading the ATF link, it basically says that if you find a vet bring-back M3 or any other WW2 fully automatic weapons (Stg44) and its not registered, it must be destroyed?! Or 'surrendered for abandonment?!' What a load of crap!

I cannot believe that the ATF will not allow someone to register a firearm thats datestamped for WW2!
 
Not cool to try to rip off your best friend.
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Ok, I wasn't ripping him off, $500 is a decent price A PRICE THAT HE SUGGESTED, and at the time as far as I Knew that was the right price, and if you look around, $500 actually is about right. so people, please stop saying that I was cheating my friend out of money.
 
Yeah, you sound like you're not a terribly good friend.

Garand = no pistol grip, hence bad ergonomics compared to modern designs. Plus the no removable box mag is, well, deprecated. 8 round capacity is also pretty limited. I'd rather have a FAL or an AUG.

I'd not buy that Garand for $100.
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Personally, if I had the extra money, ($100) I'd buy it, but then I'd save up some more money and get a nice scope and a suppressor for it.

Maybe a night vision scope.

Call it my CIA setup.

...Early CIA.
 
Yeah, you sound like you're not a terribly good friend.
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Ok, for the last time, I ACCEPTED HIS PRICE OF $500, AT THE TIME I WAS UN AWARE THAT AN M1 IN THAT CONDITION WAS WORTH MORE. Jesus this is harder than debating antis, talk about not listening.:banghead:
 
Now, that's karma! You knew the value and didn't tell him and you're saying you were screwed because he sold it to someone else? Yep, karma. Find out who he sold it to and offer them the $500.

Also, I don't think you should be posting about your buddy having unregistered NFA weapons. While many a grandpa stashed military arms in the attic/shed/closet it's not something that should be discussed unless you're asking for advice on how to make them legal (which you can't).
 
On buying collectible guns far below market price.

I bought a clean, original Colt USGI 1911...WW1 vintage...through a friend who brokered the deal from an old guy who inherited the gun from his brother.
He needed money to help care for his daughter, dying from Lou Gherig's disease. He'd come out of retirement and was driving a delivery truck for a local auto parts dealer. I made him a fair offer for the pistol, and he accepted...saying that he never figured that the old gun would be worth that much.

A couple weeks later, I had two collectors appraise the gun for me as a favor.
Turns out that it was worth a good bit more than I paid. Knowing the story, I couldn't let it go...so I contacted my bud, and told him that I was sending another 200 bucks for him to give the old gentleman, which put the price at a little less a hundred dollars below actual appraised value. Sounds weird, but the older I get, the more my conscience refuses to let me take advantage of people who don't know the real value of their property...and who also need the money badly.

I've never met the man, and only went through my friend to do the deal. He said that, when he called the man and told him that another 200 was coming to him for the gun...that the old guy choked up and sent his appreciation for my honesty. His daughter died 6 months later and he mentioned his deal with a stranger at the eulogy. To me...that was worth more than 200 dollars.
 
2Ais4U said:
No, my paycheck wont support food, rent, guns, ammo, girlfriend, gas AND the NRA. and i dont have homeowners insurance, i just got my first appartment.
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Look at this "missed opportunity" as a blessing. Take 30% of that $500 that you were going to spend and get yourself renter's insurance. Then take 5 minutes to sign up with the NRA (buys you $1000 worth of firearm insurance - I think). It is $25 for one year if you run it through this thread.

Sorry for your loss mentioned in the other thread.
 
I'm with you. If he offered it $500, that's the price. Don't bother arguing with anyone here. They're just as stubborn as antis and twice as judgmental.

Plus $500 is a decent price, it's not like he asked $25.
 
dont even say that you would have said "well its actually worth $900 to $1000."
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I actually just did that very thing with an almost perfect US Postal Meter M1 Carbine
Was offered it ans an old Winchester lever 22 for $500, I put the friend in touch with someone who would give him market value


But I don't see where you tried to rip anyone off
It's fairly clear that you were willing to pay what you could and the friend was more than happy with the price
A good deal is where both parties walk away satisfied
 
I think that economists would tell you that your friend was acting rationally - he needed tire more than he needed the Garand. If he could have waited a week for the extra $400, then could have waited. But if he needed the tire right now, the essential trade of the Garand for the tires makes perfect sense.

For example, if he needed tires to remain employed (he needs the vehicle to gt to/from work), then it might make more sense to trade the gun for the tires rather than wait an extra week and get $400 more - and be unemployed. That would imply the the value of a tire a week after the blowout was considerably less than the value of a tire the day of the blowout.

If I am dying of thirst in a desert, a gallon of water is worth a lot of money to me. If I am sitting in my living room watching a football game, able to turn on a tap and get as much water as I want, then a gallon of water is not worth very much to me.

That's part of how prices get set.

Mike
 
Just as an addendum to buying at well below market price or actual value.

I have no problem with doing that...and have done so on several occasions...as long as the seller is made aware of the actual value of the property. Once he/she has full disclosure on that point...and still offers to sell at the price quoted...all's fair and you're good to go.

But...To take advantage of an individual's ignorance or financial plight by withholding the means for the seller to make an informed decision is...IMHO...about an even split between stealing and lying. I can't do that. YMMV
 
Ok, for the last time, I ACCEPTED HIS PRICE OF $500, AT THE TIME I WAS UN AWARE THAT AN M1 IN THAT CONDITION WAS WORTH MORE. Jesus this is harder than debating antis, talk about not listening.
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Well, excuse me, you didn't make it clear enough you didn't know it was worth more.
 
Sorry, but the "what an @$$" stuff comin from all directions ticked me off a bit.
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Well, what did you expect? You claim someone is your best friend. Not some guy you met on the street, not a guy set up at a gun show, but your best friend.

Then you say:

yeah I know i should have offered more, but it was the deal of a lifetime. I am glad i didnt get it tho cuz i would have a guilty conscience
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So, you know you should have offered more, but because it was the deal of a lifetime you agreed. But now you are glad you didn't get it because by getting it you would have a guilty conscience for ripping off your best friend?

Ok, I wasn't ripping him off, $500 is a decent price A PRICE THAT HE SUGGESTED, and at the time as far as I Knew that was the right price, and if you look around, $500 actually is about right. so people, please stop saying that I was cheating my friend out of money.
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$500 is about right for a Garand in perfect condition? It isn't just us saying you tried to rip off your friend. You yourself said you would have had a guilty conscience.

Ok, for the last time, I ACCEPTED HIS PRICE OF $500, AT THE TIME I WAS UN AWARE THAT AN M1 IN THAT CONDITION WAS WORTH MORE.
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Is it worth more, or is $500 a decent price that is actually about right?

I DON't ARGUE WITH A GOOD PRICE! and its an M1 Garand, dont even say that you would have said "well its actually worth $900 to $1000."
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Everyone likes to get guns at a great price. A lot of us wouldn't do it at the expense of our friends/family. I have in fact many times educated a friend or family member who wanted to sell me their guns for cheap as to the fair value. If they make an informed decision that they still want to sell to me for cheap, that's their decision and I know there will never be any bad blood over the deal. The fact that you are telling board members what they would say in such a situation doesn't make some folks too happy.

You admit that the gun was the deal of a lifetime and purchasing it would have led to a guilty conscience, but then get upset when people call you out on it.
 
Personally, I think when he asked $500 that it's a shame that you didn't offer him $300 instead.

That way the Judgment Team here could have had an even greater field day stoning you.

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