Wow!! New Sp101-.327mag 4.2"bbl.
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I really wish there were more tests - there are so many different cartridges out there.
Ya, full bore 115gr blasting out of the View at 1000 fps is probably totally unmanageable (I don't know how fast the .327 Gold Dot actually gets going out of a 1.41" barrel)
But there are so many different cartridges including 85gr "Reduced Recoil" Hydra-Shoks and other loadings.
Ya, full bore 115gr blasting out of the View at 1000 fps is probably totally unmanageable (I don't know how fast the .327 Gold Dot actually gets going out of a 1.41" barrel)
But there are so many different cartridges including 85gr "Reduced Recoil" Hydra-Shoks and other loadings.
Piper106
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On this latest edition of the SP 101 in 327 Federal Magnum, is that a standard Ruger front sight mounting??? Is there some other front sight blade that could be 'easily' mounted??
Yes, yes, I know... If I was half way smart I'd realize that a 'fiber optic' front sight is greatest thing for getting on target since sights were invented, and why do I want to make my sights less effective, yada, yada.
Please don't hate me, but... that "fiber optic" front sight on this latest edition of the SP101 in my eyes is the most hidious thing I think I've seen on a double action revolver. It just breaks the deal for me.
Yes, yes, I know... If I was half way smart I'd realize that a 'fiber optic' front sight is greatest thing for getting on target since sights were invented, and why do I want to make my sights less effective, yada, yada.
Please don't hate me, but... that "fiber optic" front sight on this latest edition of the SP101 in my eyes is the most hidious thing I think I've seen on a double action revolver. It just breaks the deal for me.
It is installed with a simple dovetail.
If you don't like it, just knock it out and have another made to your height/width requirements
If you don't like it, just knock it out and have another made to your height/width requirements
The dovetail does sit up a little bit from the barrel so you'll always have that mounting - you won't be able to make the sight look exactly like the black ramp models without some work.
But if you're OK with the dovetail mount itself, you can put a Tritium dot or black ramp sight in that dovetail mount.
Apple a Day
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I think I'd rather have an LCR with a 4" bbl and adjustable sights in 9mm. There's lots of 9mm out there.
revolvergeek
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I am very interested in this little gun. Should be a perfect little kit gun / knockaround pistol. In a good IWB holster the longer barrel will actually help concealment (makes the gun lay flatter).
RealGun
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The moonclips would be more difficult to conceal than the gun. Maybe we could stick to 327 Federal Magnum rather any possible gun Ruger might introduce in our dreams.
gun_with_a_view
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The new 4-inch version is a great trail/hiking/small game and plinking gun, but it comes up short as a replacement for the Detective Special and the K frame Model 10 snub. It lacks the three inch barrel and duty sights on the original version introduced by Ruger. And since that gun clocks in at 1300 fps with a 115 grain bullet, the 131 fps gain with the 4-inch version (see ballisticsbytheinch) can be ignored for self defense work.
^^ But you're completely ignoring the fact that aiming is easier with the longer sight radius, and that with more weight out front, it will help tame the recoil more for faster followup shots. Those are the obvious advantages over the 3" model.
The advantages over the K frame snubs is the fact that you get a smaller framed gun, that is lighter than the steel K frame and Detective Special counterparts, and all without loosing any capacity. Of course the advantages of the 4" mentioned above would still apply. Some folks also just like a .32cal projectile, and frankly, with the ability to load really sooper-dooper mild stuff for fun/introducing new shooters, who can blame 'em?
The advantages over the K frame snubs is the fact that you get a smaller framed gun, that is lighter than the steel K frame and Detective Special counterparts, and all without loosing any capacity. Of course the advantages of the 4" mentioned above would still apply. Some folks also just like a .32cal projectile, and frankly, with the ability to load really sooper-dooper mild stuff for fun/introducing new shooters, who can blame 'em?
RealGun
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I don't think one more inch on an SP101 is going to change how it carries. I have the the 3+" Sp101 and now the new 4.2" coming. We'll see. I am sitting here with a Match Champion holstered in a high ride Galco Fletch, and the 4.25 barrel muzzle is more than an inch off my chair. I don't think we are using pocket carry ability as a measure of a gun's design or the standard for SD.
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gun_with_a_view
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That's an affirmative, we are not using those standards. A 4-inch barrel is too easily taken control of by an attacker experienced in the technique. That, and it will not clear a high ride holster as quickly as a three or two inch barrel will. But for a trail gun, yes, I'd have one. If you read what Buffalo Bore says about their wadcutter 327 MAG round and big game, you can take out polar bears and 15 Russians across the Bering Straight in one shot.
Panzerschwein
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Buffalo Bore makes some devastating loads, to be sure.
The 130 grain Keith load LSWC hard cast would be extremely effective for bear or predator defense, and for hunting, out of the 4.2" SP101 bbl and especially out of the Single Seven's 7.5" barrel.
The 130 grain Keith load LSWC hard cast would be extremely effective for bear or predator defense, and for hunting, out of the 4.2" SP101 bbl and especially out of the Single Seven's 7.5" barrel.
zb338
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The .32 Automatic is a semi-rimmed case. The case diameter is .337 and
the rim is .358. That means the rim is .021 larger than the head. That will
keep the .32 Auto from falling into the .327 Magnum's chambers. You will
have a sloppy headspace. The .38 Super Automatic is another cartridge
that is semi-rimmed.
Zeke
the rim is .358. That means the rim is .021 larger than the head. That will
keep the .32 Auto from falling into the .327 Magnum's chambers. You will
have a sloppy headspace. The .38 Super Automatic is another cartridge
that is semi-rimmed.
Zeke
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That seems a very purist analysis. It might be useful for a detective more likely to encounter trouble, but seriously these are minor points considering how much people compromise in concealed carry.
My standard for concealed carry is a 4" barrel. I do have some 3". I don't have very many holsters that are truly high riders. A quicker draw might be nice or even critical, but I don't shoot very well at any real range with a short barrel.
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Well, it happened to a friend of mine, a Union Pacific RR detective, when he carried a 3-inch Smith. The perp got ahold CD's primary, and CD shot the sob in the eye with his BUG. So I've always been governed by that experience rather than have one myself. He also carried in a shoulder holster underneath a jacket of one sort or the other, depending on the weather. I watched him pull that gun on a guy once down at a boat dock. Ole' Bill Jordan didn't have anything up on CD in that department.
RealGun
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If we all were similarly at odds of a such an incident, we would carry different guns, different ways, and more of them. LEOs have some advantage in not being bound by the rules of concealment.
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Panzerschwein
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Cool! My Dad worked on Union Pacific railroad in Southern Illinois from 1970-1990. I didn't know there were Union Pacific RR detectives, what guns did they carry (especially back then)?
I'm SO digging the new SP in .327. I WAS about to get a 5.5" bbl'd Single Seven, but have decided to hold off because apparantly that gun has some... issues... when fired with full power .327 magnums, apparantly the base pin wants to fly out!
I'll have to read/watch some range reviews on the SP before I get it, but I anticipate it shouldn't have many issues.
I'm SO digging the new SP in .327. I WAS about to get a 5.5" bbl'd Single Seven, but have decided to hold off because apparantly that gun has some... issues... when fired with full power .327 magnums, apparantly the base pin wants to fly out!
I'll have to read/watch some range reviews on the SP before I get it, but I anticipate it shouldn't have many issues.
RealGun
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Could be, but my gun simply came with the wrong length base pin, which didn't allow it to engage the détente. The LGS had two guns, so he swapped pins for me and sent the other back. That was a 5.5", and no issues with it since. Shoots great!
Panzerschwein
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Nice! I'm going to Cabela's this weekend, hopefully they'll have a Single Seven I can try out, probably won't have an SP101 .327 4.2" yet though.
If read of several accounts of the cylinder pin jump issue, seems to happen with hard thumper loads. I might have to phone Ruger and see if they've fixed the issue, before I decide to get a Single Seven.
If read of several accounts of the cylinder pin jump issue, seems to happen with hard thumper loads. I might have to phone Ruger and see if they've fixed the issue, before I decide to get a Single Seven.
RealGun
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I doubt if Cabela's will stock a Lipsey's exclusive.
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Got my tracking number, I should have mine in hand by Friday. I'm not seeing much out there on kydex holsters and horsehide seems hard to come by. Anyone got a holster in mind for theirs?
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