Wraparound eye protection for prescription glasses wearers?

[msmp5]

Can anyone suggest a solution for those of us that wear prescription sunglasses at the range, but want wraparound eye protection? Am I to be resigned to buying a pair of expensive wraparound frames, then getting prescription safety lenses put into them? And if so, what are the options for manufacturers for this? Are there any other solutions/options? Any less expensive wraparound safety eyeware that can go over my current prescription sunglasses, and not cause my face to sweat real bad in the hot summer sun? Suggestions?

 

[4thPointOfContact]

Lots of construction guys wear shields that slip on the ear pieces.
http://www.magidglove.com/VisionAid...x17woeu4AsDlt7-4soItDKU_fO8tCCC47QBoCaFnw_wcB

 

[old lady new shooter]

Last night I went to the Midway site to look for the earmuffs someone here recommended in another thread, and I decided to see what they offer in the way of eye protection. They do sell one (actually it's a two-pack, one tinted, one not) that fits over prescription glasses, I'd be interested for folks here to take a look and express an opinion:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/13...ar-and-one-mirror-anti-fog-lens-polymer-black

 

[jeepnik]

I've tried several clip-on type shooting glasses. None were worth a darned. Just break down and buy a pair of prescription shooting glasses.

My current set are on a WileyX frame. Not the most stylish eyewear, but both my kids used non prescription versions while in the sandbox and speak highly of them.

 

[IlikeSA]

I have 2 pair that I got from Sportsman's guide that are polarized and I use them for fishing, driving, and shooting. They go over my glasses. They may seem dorky, but they work for me. Here is a link to similar glasses.

http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/fiovrxgl.html

 

[ClarkEMyers]

My own choice has been from http://www.tacticalrx.com/ Fully-Custom Prescription Safety, Shooting and Tactical Glasses I suppose pricey but I don't know a cheaper way to get the results so I pay happily,.

 

[Slappy White]

Zenni Optical has cheap prescription shooting glasses.

 

[Coyote3855]

I like Cocoon Fitover Sun Glasses. Cabelas, WalMart and other vendors have them. I use them for shooting and fly fishing. They come in various sizes and lens colors. I still wear a hat when shooting to keep hot brass out from between my glasses and my eyes.

 

[herrwalther]

My shooting glasses came from Sportrx.com. I didn't like the military solution of using inserts in issued eyewear for us with non 20/20 vision. So I ordered my own. Paid less than $200 over 5 years ago and I still wear them. Luckily my prescription hasn't noticeably changed.

http://www.sportrx.com/shopby/best_sports-shooting.html

 

[Twinbonanza1]

Prescription wrap around safety glasses

Hello everyone, new today to the site with after hours and hours of digging, hove solved my vision correction issues. In short, I have two cataracts with perfect distant vision but need readers. Initially my hand gun sights were blurred so looking for wrap around glasses with full lense correction became a mission.
I have just got back from front sight in Nevada and the glasses I bought were perfect. Outside the vision is much better so I got the weaker .75 diaptor and the sights were clear, with only a slight blurr of the targets. These glasses are only around 14.00 bucks with free shipping on Amazon and are ansi impact rated. The brand is Elvex mod Rx-500c. I hope this helps everyone as it has me.... I do use the stronger 1.50 for indoor shooting as the light is less.also, they do not come tinted as a sunglass, but the company told me they may explore after seeing the response on the clear.....
Good shooting, Doug

 

[wrdwrght]

I like Cocoon Fitover Sun Glasses. Cabelas, WalMart and other vendors have them. I use them for shooting and fly fishing. They come in various sizes and lens colors. I still wear a hat when shooting to keep hot brass out from between my glasses and my eyes.

Cocoons are the bees knees, outdoors. Indoors, not so much.

 

[kayak-man]

I'm a big Oakley fan. I don't need Rx glasses, but my dad has been getting them for a long time and swears by them

 

[maxxhavoc]

http://www.rx-safety.com/prescription-safety-glasses/wraparound-safety-glasses/prescription-safety-glasses-rx-208.html

I just bought some of these. I have a big head, and they fit me well. They don't make my eyes all sweaty like my WileyX SG1's. They have smaller sizes as well.

 

[old lady new shooter]

I like Cocoon Fitover Sun Glasses. Cabelas, WalMart and other vendors have them. I use them for shooting and fly fishing. They come in various sizes and lens colors. I still wear a hat when shooting to keep hot brass out from between my glasses and my eyes.

I went looking for those on the web last night, in brown tint per the answers I got here about brown vs dark gray (the two choices my eye doctor gave me). They say on the website that their product is not ANSI certified but they tried hitting them with a hammer and they didn't break. This bothers me on some level, if they are willing to try hitting them with a hammer, why not just get the ANSI certification? OTOH I have no idea what significance ANSI certification actually has for eye protection for shooting, so:

Can someone please explain the significance of ANSI certification for eye protection for shooting? I will be shooting a revolver but certainly the person next to me at the range might be shooting a semi so there is still the issue of flying brass.

 

[Jim Watson]

I don't know how much trouble it is to get ANSI certified, but it is certainly more work than just writing ad copy.
Those glasses will certainly keep ejected brass from an auto or spatter from the cylinder gap of a revolver out of your eyes. Just that they are not proven to some specific level of impact.

Here is one of many industrial safety glasses that might work for you, and they are ANSI and Mil-Spec tested.
http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/sg-37g.html

 

[maxxhavoc]

The ones I mentioned above are Z87 certified, and were $115 with rx lenses installed and shipped. It can't cost that much to test them. Non-RX Wiley SG1's can be had for less than $50 with clear and smoke lenses, and they are Z87 and MIL certified. And you can swap to RX lenses in those easily. But they make my eyes sweat in any kind of heat.

 

[PPS43]

Revision Sawfly ($30) with Rx insert ($100).

If that's too expensive, 3M makes $10 safety glasses that fit over prescription. You should be able to find them in pretty much any hardware store.

 

[old lady new shooter]

Thanks everybody!

The 3M clear ones are available on Amazon for $3.47 as an "add-on" item. I got the cocoons in amber (when I went back to the site it says they are ANSI-certified, maybe I had it mixed up with another site. So the cocoons will be for outdoor ranges and driving, the clear ones for indoor. Yay, one thing crossed off my list!

 

[hso]

This bothers me on some level,

That should bother you on every level.

We have 2 eyes. One is not a spare. Cheaping out on safety eyeglasses is foolish considering the cost and problems of even a minor eye injury from a ruptured case or ricochet. I've had both cases and frag hit my glasses and I was VERY happy I was wearing them.

Keep in mind that for shooting you don't need a bifocal prescription as long as you get one that allows adequate focus on front and rear sight. A single prescription set to that arms length distance + works well for me.

 

[old lady new shooter]

That should bother you on every level.

We have 2 eyes. One is not a spare. Cheaping out on safety eyeglasses is foolish considering the cost and problems of even a minor eye injury from a ruptured case or ricochet. I've had both cases and frag hit my glasses and I was VERY happy I was wearing them.

Keep in mind that for shooting you don't need a bifocal prescription as long as you get one that allows adequate focus on front and rear sight. A single prescription set to that arms length distance + works well for me.

Well, first of all the Cocoons *are* ANSI-certified, as I posted I think maybe I mixed up that website with another one, last night one thing I discovered is that "fitovers" are a generic term. So both the tinted ones and the clear ones I got should provide proper protection.

I have separate distance and reading glasses, the optometrist said graduated lenses or bifocals would not be good for me, no idea if this is related to the AMD. With the distance ones my vision is 20-25 in one eye and 20-30 in the other, that's as good as they can get it. My reading ones are 3x magnification added to my regular prescription, designed for a reading distance of 11". The distance ones are what I will be wearing for shooting.

 

[hso]

They should be marked Z87+ for the highest impact resistance civilian standard or MIL-PRF-31013 for a military impact resistance standard.

This is from their website FAQ where they say they do not meet the ANSI safety glasses standard.

Can I use Cocoons fitover sunglasses as safety glasses?

Although Cocoons are not classified as safety glasses according to the ANSI Z87.1 safety eyewear standard, they are extremely durable and feature one of the toughest lenses on the market, Polarè®. Polarè lenses are so durable, we've hit them with a hammer and still can not break them! The nylon frames are near indestructible, we challenge you to twist them and bend them...they will not break.

Clever, a euphemism for misleading, marketing doesn't stand up to demanding that a product meet a safety standard we'd require at work or for troops.

 

[old lady new shooter]

They should be marked Z87+ for the highest impact resistance civilian standard or MIL-PRF-31013 for a military impact resistance standard.

This is from their website FAQ where they say they do not meet the ANSI safety glasses standard.



Clever, a euphemism for misleading, marketing doesn't stand up to demanding that a product meet a safety standard we'd require at work or for troops.

Your quote is the one I remembered but could not find again when I went back.

At http://www.cocoonseyewear.com/lenses/ on the site it says
"Polaré lenses exceed ANSI Z80.1 safety standards, the Australian sunglass standards and all FDA impact resistance standards." This is what I saw when I went back and decided it was OK to buy them. With 20/20 hindsight I see two different ANSI standards are referenced, I suppose that's the key fact. Have not yet looked them up to see what the difference might be.

They make also a "Pro Series" which they say has bulletproof frames. I briefly considered those but they only come in gray and copper and in view of the advice I got on the other thread I wanted amber, plus I reasoned that my purpose is to keep flying brass and spatter out of my eyes as opposed to actually deflecting a bullet. Maybe that was incorrect reasoning, everything about shooting is new to me and I confess that I'm getting somewhat information-overloaded.

 

[old lady new shooter]

"With 20/20 hindsight I see two different ANSI standards are referenced"

For Z80, "lenses must be able to withstand the impact from a 5/8-inch steel ball dropped onto the lens from a distance of 50 inches".

For Z87, a 1" ball weighing 2.4 oz is dropped onto the lens from a distance of 50 inches.

There are a lot of additional requirements for Z87 but to me they don't seem related to the eyewear taking a bullet, it's stuff like respiratory protection, ventilation, light transmission for welding applications, etc. So the difference appears to boil down to the size of the steel ball dropped.

.................

If my expected use matters:
1. I will be wearing these (or different ones if you persuade me these are not safe enough) at outdoor ranges and for driving or daytime walking.
2. I will not be going hunting.
3. We do not (yet) have concealed carry here, so the only possible gunfight I can imagine getting into would be if somebody breaks into my house, in which case I might not have anything at all over my eyes, but certainly not sun-protection over-lenses.
4. I suppose it is possible someone could try to shoot me when I am unarmed somewhere outside my house, or I could get caught in someone else's shootout. If this occurred outside during daylight hours I would likely be wearing the over-lenses.

Thoughts?

 

[hso]

I'm the safety manager for over 800 scientists and engineers. I'm the deputy for over 3,000. This includes range operations for DHS. I wouldn't accept these on any site.

There are no "bullet proof" safety glasses since that term has no precise meaning. All impact resistance standards that are relevant are the ones I cited or the EU equivalent. They all wold ddressfragments, but none would take a bullet.

These folks are careful not to actually claim their products are Safety glasses, just tough.

 

[old lady new shooter]

I'm the safety manager for over 800 scientists and engineers. I'm the deputy for over 3,000. This includes range operations for DHS. I wouldn't accept these on any site.

There are no "bullet proof" safety glasses since that term has no precise meaning. All impact resistance standards that are relevant are the ones I cited or the EU equivalent. They all wold ddressfragments, but none would take a bullet.

These folks are careful not to actually claim their products are Safety glasses, just tough.

It seems you are recommending that I start over. I want over-lenses that completely wrap around the eye area, brown-tinted and polarized, and fit over prescription glasses that are 5½" across. (I'm adding the last point because with the Cocoons, after measuring as instructed I had to get the extra-large size to fit over my Rx glasses, which I would have thought are only average-sized. I guess my head is pretty wide.) The person here who first posted about the Cocoons mentioned that he still wears a hat with a brim when shooting, I didn't mention that before but will do the same. Can you recommend something that would meet those requirements?

A separate question, could it be possible that the reason the Cocoons aren't Z87-certified could be the other parts of the standard rather than the impact test... ???