Wyoming sues BATF over gun rights.
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Thefabulousfink
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Doesn't the BATFE rely on local LE to enforce and investigate? Couldn't Wyoming cease all cooperation with them and refuse to enforce any of their rulings? Also kick them out of any state owned buildings. This could be tricky, it is the frist time anyone with power has challenged the BATFE's frightening level of un-checked authority.
waterhouse
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That is fantastic.
Zundfolge
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If only Governor Preston were in office 
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GLOCK19XDSC
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Read this:
http://www.javelinpress.com/molon_labe.html
Go, Wyoming!
Don't forget this:
http://www.freestatewyoming.org/
http://www.javelinpress.com/molon_labe.html
Go, Wyoming!
Don't forget this:
http://www.freestatewyoming.org/
SnakeEater
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You got that right!
Car Knocker
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BATF has no statuary authority to either validate or invalidate state CCW permits. I do believe that this is about the time that BATF determined that some states' CCW permits would no longer be allowed to substitute for a NICS check.
I am guessing the fight will be in the Federal Courts, so Wyoming is going to need all the luck and help it can get.
People like these state officials make the whole country a better place. I wish Wyoming had enough to export to the rest of the states.
People like these state officials make the whole country a better place. I wish Wyoming had enough to export to the rest of the states.
no. w/ the exception of the spillover from sd's black hills, wyoming (eastern side, anyway) is essentially tree-less.
it is windy there. i have heard it said that trees don't grow because of the wind, and i have heard that because there are no trees it is windy. dunno.
Ohen Cepel
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If only it wasn't sooooo cold there!
Had a great job offer there a while back. However, the spouse was not at all interested.
It has the advantage that it has no huge city that drives it's politics like happens in so many other states.
Had a great job offer there a while back. However, the spouse was not at all interested.
It has the advantage that it has no huge city that drives it's politics like happens in so many other states.
Brett Bellmore
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From that Caspar Star Tribune story:
I think maybe they've got felonies and misdemeanors confused. As I understand it, until the Lautenberg amendment, a misdemeanor conviction didn't mean squat, which is why so many people plead guilty to them without a second thought. What happened in '86, was that the federal law was changed to allow state expungements, and not just ones by federal judges, to clear your record of felony convictions for purposes of firearms ownership.
Am I wrong about this?
I think maybe they've got felonies and misdemeanors confused. As I understand it, until the Lautenberg amendment, a misdemeanor conviction didn't mean squat, which is why so many people plead guilty to them without a second thought. What happened in '86, was that the federal law was changed to allow state expungements, and not just ones by federal judges, to clear your record of felony convictions for purposes of firearms ownership.
Am I wrong about this?
Wyoming is a great state. My brother lived there before he died, and I'm planning to move out there eventually.
Easy CCW, full auto/supressor friendly, no stupid gun restrictions, open land, and every type of consumer firework known to man is legal to sell to the public at large.
They've got my support on this one.
Easy CCW, full auto/supressor friendly, no stupid gun restrictions, open land, and every type of consumer firework known to man is legal to sell to the public at large.
They've got my support on this one.
I lived in Gillette, WY, for two years.
I only thought I knew what cold was before I went up there.
I only thought I knew what wind was before I went up there.
I really like eastern Wyoming....for the two weeks of "Not Winter" they get in late July.
Naw, Wyoming has some really good points.
But blizzard season that gets rolling in late April ain't one of them.
hillbilly
I only thought I knew what cold was before I went up there.
I only thought I knew what wind was before I went up there.
I really like eastern Wyoming....for the two weeks of "Not Winter" they get in late July.
Naw, Wyoming has some really good points.
But blizzard season that gets rolling in late April ain't one of them.
hillbilly
I went to WY to antilope hunt in Sept one year. We camped out. Very cold at night. I loved the place. The main reason is you could live many miles from another human being if you wanted to.. The recreation area where we camped had the usual type bathrooms. But I did find it funny that sitting on one you could be air dried by the time you got up from the wind even blowing from down there. It was weird. If the draft was the other way you would have been sucked in.
WeedWhacker
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I am guessing the fight will be in the Federal Courts, so Wyoming is going to need all the luck and help it can get.
Federal or no, the BATFE still has to have the force of law behind any of its actions. Lately (according to the folks at jpfo.org), the BATFE has been caught red-handed making crap up as they go. Doesn't matter who is on the bench, that just won't fly in a court of law.
I think maybe they've got felonies and misdemeanors confused.
You missed the part about domestic violence misdemeanors barring one from owning firearms. Punishments which used to be relegated to violent crimes and very serious offenses are now meted out to otherwise harmless imbibers of certain substances and couples who shout a little too loudly during times of strife found in every single male/female relationship since Adam and Eve. Also note that the government can/will automatically press charges in a case deemed to be "domestic violence", so be sure to keep your voice down.
Federal or no, the BATFE still has to have the force of law behind any of its actions. Lately (according to the folks at jpfo.org), the BATFE has been caught red-handed making crap up as they go. Doesn't matter who is on the bench, that just won't fly in a court of law.
I think maybe they've got felonies and misdemeanors confused.
You missed the part about domestic violence misdemeanors barring one from owning firearms. Punishments which used to be relegated to violent crimes and very serious offenses are now meted out to otherwise harmless imbibers of certain substances and couples who shout a little too loudly during times of strife found in every single male/female relationship since Adam and Eve. Also note that the government can/will automatically press charges in a case deemed to be "domestic violence", so be sure to keep your voice down.
DunedinDragon
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Stuff like this doesn't surprise me at all since I grew up in Wyoming. In Cheyenne until I graduated HS then in Casper when I went to college. I didn't appreciate it as much when I lived there as I do now.
Yes, it's cold, and yes they have some nasty blizzards. But that's always been an aspect of frontier life, and it produces some tough, independent people. Wyoming wasn't settled by cowboys, it was settled by a much tougher breed of people..trappers, buffalo hunters, and the people that built the railroad across America.
For those asking about what it's like, the eastern side of the state is pretty barren, but starting in the center of the state (Casper) and moving toward the west and northwest it's one of the most beautiful areas in the country. Remember, Wyoming is where you find places like the Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, and Jackson Hole. Even living in one of the more desolate places like Cheyenne, you're never very far away from beautiful mountain country. Go 50 miles to the west and you're in the Snowy Range portion of the Rockies. Truly a beautiful and remarkable state.
Yes, it's cold, and yes they have some nasty blizzards. But that's always been an aspect of frontier life, and it produces some tough, independent people. Wyoming wasn't settled by cowboys, it was settled by a much tougher breed of people..trappers, buffalo hunters, and the people that built the railroad across America.
For those asking about what it's like, the eastern side of the state is pretty barren, but starting in the center of the state (Casper) and moving toward the west and northwest it's one of the most beautiful areas in the country. Remember, Wyoming is where you find places like the Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, and Jackson Hole. Even living in one of the more desolate places like Cheyenne, you're never very far away from beautiful mountain country. Go 50 miles to the west and you're in the Snowy Range portion of the Rockies. Truly a beautiful and remarkable state.
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