Ya never know....(L.C. Smith)

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A good friend of mine brought me some guns her father had, that had been passed down from his father and possibly from his fathers father. The first 3 she brought were:

A Crescent Arms .410 dbl. barrelled SG--I dated this one to 1929-1930
A Model 1892 Winchester pump .22 manufactured in 1906
And a Model 8 Remington, in .35 Remington made in 1929

All were in kinda rough shape as they'd been sitting in a closet, with no attention for 20+ years. As none have any great value, I told her I'd clean them up,and make them "presentable"...She has no desire to use them, just keep them as family heirlooms.

But, she also kept telling me about another gun, that she thought was "neat" and nicer than the rest....She finally brought it from her parents yesterday, and I had a chance to see it last night...

Umm...Err..WOW!... It's an L.C. Smith, grade A-1 (found this out by searching the web), of which they only made 739 between 1892 and 1898 (according to the source on the web) although the serial number (marked in 4 places) is 787... Its not in great shape, (almost no finish left) but no rust or anything. It has a "chain pattern" on the barrels, and virtually ever other metal surface is engraved....Very nice wood (Walnut) as well...We're gonna take a trip next week,down to Doug Turnbull Restorations (which is right down the road for me) and have them check it out, see if it should be left as-is or what it would cost to restore.

In the meantime, if anyone knows anything more about the gun (why 787?) any more info would be appreciated. While the description I found on the web was enough that I am confident this is the correct model, there wasn't much other info to be had.

I'll try and take some pictures when I get a chance.
 
I can only do some guessing on the Elsie.

Many companies do not start serial numbers at "1", they might have run from 100 or 101. I think it more likely that the A1s were numbered in with other grades, and hers is even earlier than it might seem, but it will take an expert to say.

The "chain pattern" on the barrels is, of course, Damascus. The majority position is that it not be shot with smokeless and maybe not at all.

I don't know what to say about restoration. With application of money, it can be made to look like new, but will not have the value of a clean original. Will it have the value of a worn original plus the cost of the work? I dunno.
 
As far as value, I did find one (in mint condition) for sale on the web...For $18,000....So I suspect, even though it would be costly ($4-5000) to have it properly restored (based on what one of my friends has had Doug Turnbull has had done in the past) it might be well worth it.....Although as I mentioned, she has no intention of ever selling the gun.
 
Some picsof the engraving

Only a few...there isn't any piece of metal on this gun thats not engraved, including the larger screws (buttplate) and the triggers (checkered). One pic also nicely shows the "chain pattern on the barrels.
 

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Looks great to me.
I'd call the finish wear "character" and leave it alone. Look into cleaning and preservation methods and hang it on the wall in memory of Grandpa.
 
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