Yet another recoil question

[TehK1w1]

Alright, I have been trying for a while to figure out recoil figures on a couple of my loads. The only problem is that I have no powder measure to figure out how many grains of powder are in the factory-loaded cartridges I shoot. I have everything except the powder amounts and the weight of my rifles(EDIT-got 'em now)
Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions on how to measure the powder without a special measure?



For the curious:

Load #1
(444 Marlin out of a 1971 Model 444S (22" bbl, 7.5lb) )
-Buffalo Bore
300gr. SP(.429")@ 2150 MV

Load #2
(35 Whelen out of a custom Savage 110 (24" bbl, 9.25lb) )
-Federal Premium
225gr. TBBC(.358")@2600 MV (TBBC=Trophy Bonded Bear Claw)

I have fired both of these, and the recoil is there but not too bad (I REALLY need to replace the factory recoil pad on the Savage though)

 

[DnPRK]

Go to the websites of companies that manufacture reloading supplies and look up reloading data. Use the powder weight of a typical load of the same bullet weight you listed in your post.
hodgdon.com
vihtavuori-lapua.com
accuratepowder.com

 

[hossdaniels]

Load #1 is exactly my savage muzzleloader load, with 43g imr4759 and a 300g .458, 13fps velocity of recoil, 23.5 ft/lbs free recoil energy in a 9 lb rifle.
http://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp
One of my other loads of 59g n120 at 2250 fps shows 14.4 fps and 29 ft/lbs energy. The difference feels like more than that.

 

[TehK1w1]

Well, following a weigh-in of my guns, I used my Cartridges of the World and a friend's reloading book to figure out powder charges. Barnes says that their equivilent load for #1 uses 46 grains of powder. Sierra says that their 225gr SP @ 2500 uses 56 grains, so I upped it to 58 grains to sorta guesstimate for the 100FPS difference. I will get actual charges tomorrow from a friend who has a scale
Meanwhile, BigGameInfo.com's recoil calculator gives the following-

Load #1
Recoil Velocity-16.4
Recoil Energy-31.4

Load #2
Recoil Velocity-13.2
Recoil Energy-25.2

I don't feel much difference between the two, I think the cheap plastic "Recoil pad" on the Savage's factory hardwood stock is the reason.

 

[TehK1w1]

Well, the scale gives powder charges of 50 grains for load #1, and 62.1 grains for load #2

therefore, final recoil levels are as follows:

Load #1
Recoil Velocity-16.8
Recoil Energy-32.7

Load #2
Recoil Velocity-13.5
Recoil Energy-26.4

Ouch, according to popular theory this should really hurt, seeing as they both definitely exceed the magic "20lb barrier" of recoil energy that is supposably the hardest most people can stand. BTW, I am 5'10" and 160 lbs