You know, maybe it is WAY too easy to get a gun.

[hankdatank1362]

We have one boy, and my wife wants to try agian for a girl. This kinda stuff is what scares me into disagreeing.

That said... I don't know if there's any High Road way of handling this. But there are a couple low road ways that would probably work pretty durn well... just can't mention them here.

 

[JesseL]

We have one boy, and my wife wants to try agian for a girl. This kinda stuff is what scares me into disagreeing.

We've got one boy and my wife would like another but she's afraid we'll get a girl. She says girls cause too much drama. I could go either way, but you and my wife make good points.

 

[Poper]

If you haven't already taught your daughter gun safety, now is the time. Take her shooting, tell her the problems with mixing guns, alcohol and anger.

+1!!

Never pass up a chance to spend time with your daughter. After a few range trips, you might want to offer to take the BF along, too. As long as she undertands the rules you taught her apply to him, too.

Just a thought.....

Poper

 

[rainbowbob]

We've got one boy and my wife would like another but she's afraid we'll get a girl. She says girls cause too much drama.

Jesse:
We had one of each. Although she put us through some changes - the girl was actually the easier of the two. So ya never know. I can't imagine the world without my daugher in it - so I say go for it!

 

[Thernlund]

We have one boy, and my wife wants to try again for a girl. This kinda stuff is what scares me into disagreeing.

Hey man, don't let it discourage you. Sons are easier, but daughters are far more rewarding. Take my word for it. A daughter will provide you a balance in your life that you didn't know existed. I've learned about as much from mine as they have from me.


-T.

 

[bumm]

Girls just get into different trouble... They're VERY complicated. They talk about each other, split up into groups, fight, the groups shuffle, somebody talks about somebody else, somebody tells, they all go home crying. They will fight physically more often than boys. VERY complicated, and you never know what to do.
Boys, on the other hand, will just go out and do something so incredibly stupid that you wonder how they even figured out they could DO that. But it's simpler to deal with.
Marty

 

[physics]

I would "explain" to the punk that you love your daughter and if he wants to hit her, or threaten her in any way, his loser life will be over, or at least severely impaired. A good butt-kicking does indeed sound in order. Not only is he being irresponsible with a firearm, threatening your daughter, but he is making all gun owners look bad.

This is key I think. Try going over gun safety, and explaining that by being irresponsible with a gun, he is helping to destroy that very right. If he's retarded about it, kick his butt.

By the way, shouldn't he have been arrested for menacing in a domestic dispute and therefore unable to purchase a firearm in the future? Menacing is iirc threatening someone, which shooting a tree in the front yard could be taken as a threat.

I hate idiots like this, who really thinks that shooting a tree in your front yard is good stress relief?!? I'm assuming an urban environment, of course, if you live away from others, yeah, maybe you can shoot a tree in your front yard, but that doesn't sound like it's the case.

 

[rainbowbob]

I would "explain" to the punk...if he wants to hit her, or threaten her in any way, his loser life will be over, or at least severely impaired.

Menacing is... threatening someone

physics:
You do see the contradiction in your statements - don't you?

 

[dialectik]

In WA state, if he gets a restraining order against him, he needs to surrender the gun. If the cops know that he owns one (ie someone rats) then they will take it away. <=-read between the lines-=>

 

[MinnMooney]

Ya know, life just ain't perfect. If he hasn't been violent toward a person (just a poor tree) then there is no good reason for denying him his rights.

If a law was ever passed to ask parents, neighbors or friends if so & so should be allowed to own a gun, we'd be back in the dark ages of CCW permits. That law waould pretty-much kiss the 2nd Amendment goodby.

Anti's could find someone in anyone's circle of friends/relatives that would say he should really own a gun - " 'cause no one should have a gun" - 'cause guns kill people" - " 'cause he looked at me wrong once" - " 'cause he cheated on me with my best friend"............... well, you get the idea.

 

[ROMAK IV]

What is the answer to this problem? You know! There will be calls for mandatory training, (and as we know form the federal program to arm the pilots, the training will be near impossible to get) more government permission, (already bad), or, the worst, a denial of rights without any wrongdoing. (and sadly, this is already happening). In a free country, there is always the threat of certain people abusing their rights, and always the need for eternal vigilance. I shouldn't have to remind anyone here of that truth. If yu want to live in a country where there is nothing like this to worry about, you want to live in the former USSR. Why don't you take it upon yourself to take the young man shooting, and not waste time judging him.

 

[anygunanywhere]

Bruss01, You've got style.

Young men who have not had proper direction from adult males need some serious counseling to help them down the straight and narrow path.

Anygunanywhere

 

[p2000sk]

THR > Social Situations > General Gun Discussions > You know, maybe it is WAY too easy to get a gun.

I do not provoke that idea.
As far as I am concerned about the (daughters boyfriends) thought processes, there are plenty of existing filters in place to weed this guy out.
Just a matter of time (hope daughter is absent for his impending bad choices).
Habitual creatures tend to do habitual things.
On the other hand, he could "bump his head again" and become a good everyday Joe.

 

[moooose102]

the problem, as i see it, is how to get your daughter the heck out of there. he, and his own stupidity will take care of himself. so, for starters, get your daughter home for a visit, WITHOUT the jerk! 1) explain how much you love her, and how you would do anything to keep her safe. then, sit her butt down in front of the computer. bring up this post, and have her read all the replies. maybe, just maybe, then she will see what kind of danger she is really in, and that she REALLY does not need to be around this guy. there are a lot of good young men she could be spending her time with, that won't end up shooting her. if she wants kids eventually, make sure she knows that they will never be born if this guy shoots her. i really hope to never be in your shoes! this has to be one of a fathers worse nightmares. i know, i am a dad too. fortunatly, for me right now, her one true love is me. she is 4 years old. if there is anything i can do to help you sway her opinion, p.m. me.i would be glad to help, if i can.

 

[SAWBONES]

In the end, it must be recognized that the Second Amendment permits, or rather guarantees, the inalienable right to bear arms irrespective of social status.

No one is specifically excepted, whether named a felon (often arbitrarily defined by government fiat) or having a history of arrest, or considered to have an unacceptable racial characteristic or religious or political affiliation.

Our government, like all governments, is simply untrustworthy in administering individual rights, and it will always be thus. I want no direction at all from the government along this line.
Instead, each man must exercise his own God-given and inalienable right to keep and bear arms, and be responsible for his own personal self-protection.
Whether a reputed or actual criminal/felon/violent sociopath finds it easy or difficult to obtain a gun or other weapon isn't the issue at all. Criminal sociopaths will always find ways to get guns and other weapons.

I will have mine, as well.

 

[mbt2001]

I believe the OP already indicated he had tried the "mentoring" bit to no avail.

But I bet his solution didn't involve beer...

Not trying to make light of a situation that is most likely causing some emotional heartache, but I will advise an old Japanese proverb and an old Chinese Proverb.

"Even the faintest candle from a poor man's lamp can light the darkest corner." Japanese proverb

"The Tiger does not roar when hunting" Chinese proverb.

 

[crebralfix]

It's not easy enough to get a gun.

Before 1968, you could purchase them from gas stations...or just about anywhere else. There were no FFLs, no age restrictions, or background checks*. It was all cash and carry.

*Federal restrictions. I believe some states had some restrictions at the time.