YouTube pulling ads from gun channels?

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I did not know that ads had been removed from gun channels, but I do know that some ad companies dropped off from youtube sometime in the last week or two. Maybe this is youtube trying to persuade them to come back.
 
Something like this happened to Hickock45, and IIRC a few others a year or so ago.
The bloggers banded together and created "full30.com" to get around this.
 
Google took a hit from advertisers complaining that their ads were showing up on searches that they did not want their products being on those pages, because it associated their products with that page. Youtube is owned by Google. So this is quite possibly the case here.
 
Merle1 said:
Something like this happened to Hickock45, and IIRC a few others a year or so ago.
The bloggers banded together and created "full30.com" to get around this.
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I don't think this is what happened to Hickok45. First of all he was not monetized and took no Youtube advertising revenue. He does get some funding in the way of donated firearms and ammunition to use from businesses such as Buds guns, Henry firearms, etc., which he mentions verbally in his videos.

His problem with Youtube was just that they took his site down for some glitch that was supposedly an infraction of Youtube rules. It eventually got cleared up and he got all of his privileges back.

Cheers
 
JohnBiltz said:
Google took a hit from advertisers complaining that their ads were showing up on searches that they did not want their products being on those pages, because it associated their products with that page. Youtube is owned by Google. So this is quite possibly the case here.
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I can't say i blame them much. The advertisers want their ads targeted to the audience they want to reach. if they don't want to spend money advertising to gun people, why should they be forced to by youtube.
 
It's kind of strange, because YouTube "restricted mode" leaks through and even recommends videos with profanities, adult content and even SJW-style propaganda (including MTV), while even overly documentary videos with any kind of firearm theme are being filtered. A political statement? Possibly. It's a bit difficult to explain to teenagers why videos of a pink-haired obese lady cursing like a sailor and hallucinating about her perceived oppression are recommended to them whereas they aren't allowed to see Hickock45, TFB TV and many hunting channels they've watched for years.
 
Right, it is strategically important for ads to hit the right market sectors. I am sure Youtube is pulling ads from a lot of channels, not just those gun related. They probably need a better program for matching advertisers and channel content. I am sure there are ads that should be going to gun channels that aren't as well as the other way around.

If you were an advertiser, would you want your product/service ad that you pay for to be advertised in the wrong place?
 
Double Naught Spy said:
Right, it is strategically important for ads to hit the right market sectors. I am sure Youtube is pulling ads from a lot of channels, not just those gun related. They probably need a better program for matching advertisers and channel content. I am sure there are ads that should be going to gun channels that aren't as well as the other way around.

If you were an advertiser, would you want your product/service ad that you pay for to be advertised in the wrong place?
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I really don't know how it works, but I can tell you this.

I really think the ad's you see are based on your browsing history. Watch a ton of history (great war) or gun stuffs and you seem to get NRA adds. I just picked up my guitar again and had been watching Andersons (British guitar store) and watching videos about B&G (hand made guitars) and now I am getting all kinds of music gear ad's

However some channels don't ever have an add, like the great war.
 
I watched a Hickok45 video this morning and it still had ads. This is very important, since guys like Hickok45 & MAC need that ad revenue to create content...
 
I'm hoping there is a better model than ad money for makers of good creative content to make a little money.

I'm actually at a point where I would pay a reasonable subscription fee for really good content just so I wouldn't have to deal with obnoxious ads that auto play audio/video, freeze my browser while they load, or assault my senses and intelligence with "One Weird Trick to Cure Toenail fungus!"

It would have to be really good content, though. Not churn and burn disposable content mill stuff.
 
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Jason_W said:
I'm hoping there is a better model than ad money for makers of good creative content to make a little money.

I'm actually at a point where I would pay a reasonable subscription fee for really good content just so I wouldn't have to deal with obnoxious ads that auto play audio/video, freeze my browser while they load, or assault my senses and intelligence with "One Weird Trick to Cure Toenail fungus!"

It would have to be really good content, though. Not churn and burn disposable content mill stuff.
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Check out https://www.full30.com

Last time I checked it was free too.
 
I saw a youtube video the other day that suggested what happened was that youtube got pushback from advertisers who were seeing there ads show up on what the advertisers considered offensive videos and/or channels. so youtube pulled the ads from anything that might be even remotely controversial until they can adjust their ad selection algorithm.
 
ilbob said:
I can't say i blame them much. The advertisers want their ads targeted to the audience they want to reach. if they don't want to spend money advertising to gun people, why should they be forced to by youtube.
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The fact that the ads are coming up on those channels means the people who watch said channels are in the market for those products. It's not a matter of the ads not being correctly targeted to the right audience, it's a matter of the companies once again banding together to make a political statement at the expense of their bottom line.
 
I highly doubt their bottom line is being negatively impacted by a discernable amount, assuming your interpretation is correct.

Either way, be it target audience or vector, if companies are paying money for ads and don't like where their ads are going, then they won't continue to advertise or advertise as much.
 
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I don't think this is what happened to Hickok45. First of all he was not monetized and took no Youtube advertising revenue. He does get some funding in the way of donated firearms and ammunition to use from businesses such as Buds guns, Henry firearms, etc., which he mentions verbally in his videos.

His problem with Youtube was just that they took his site down for some glitch that was supposedly an infraction of Youtube rules. It eventually got cleared up and he got all of his privileges back.

Cheers
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Hickok45 was definitely monetized when his account was frozen. The problem was that when he was uploading his videos to Youtube, he was also uploading to Google+ which has a policy against gun videos. Once he got things cleaned-up and stopped uploading to Google+ (it asks when uploading videos, you just have to click to get rid of the check mark) when uploading to Youtube, he was good to go -- for now.
 
Solomonson said:
Hickok45 was definitely monetized when his account was frozen. The problem was that when he was uploading his videos to Youtube, he was also uploading to Google+ which has a policy against gun videos. Once he got things cleaned-up and stopped uploading to Google+ (it asks when uploading videos, you just have to click to get rid of the check mark) when uploading to Youtube, he was good to go -- for now.
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You are correct. At some point after their channel was put back up, Hickok45 and his son posted this really long winded video trying to explain what happened and thanking all their supporters. Somewhere in the video they mentioned monetization and somehow I thought they said they were not. However, I found the video and watch it again (all 24 minutes of it) and realized I had misheard the part about monetization.

Cheers
 
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