a good match for me.

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An Springfield Armory DX45 Service or Tactical model with 230 grain hollowpoints.
That way if the hollowpoint fails to expand, you still have the standard 230 grain slug that still makes a good hole with good stopping power.
Yet the velocity is subsonic.

They have a natural point of aim, and they have soft recoil for s .45.
 
Oh, and weight is not an issue, just felt recoil because of my hands, my shoulder is really pretty good, but my nerve endings in my hands and feet aren't right yet, chemo does strange things to you. In fact, I prefer all steel construction, and a heavy firearm.
 
Comin' at ya way out of left field...

Bud's Gun Shop has the FN- Herstal FNP-9, new-in-box on sale for $397.00. It is a first-rate 9mm pistol that has been replaced by the FNX-9 and Bud's is clearing out the remnants. This particular gun comes with a 10-round magazine (10+1 capacity) but it comes with three of them. 16-round magazines are also available.

The FNP-9 will handle any commercial 9mm ammo including +P, has very controllable recoil (lower than the Glock 19) and the slide is not difficult to operate. Both my wife and my college-age daughter have no trouble with it. It comes with interchangeable backstraps to fit different hand sizes and has a truly excellent double-action trigger.

And it's made in the USA!

Here's the website for the gun:
FNP-9, DA/SA, Matte Black
 
ooh, best of both worlds, does anyone have a 45 acp carbine? or has experience with them?

the buds gun shop is a great link, great prices.
 
I was gonna say long gun like a Mossy 500...but i would have suggested a 20 guage or even .410.......

But I think after reading your post a handgun is what your after? I am more inclined to say a Beretta or Taurus 9mm ... All Steel like you like and I like as well...relatively low recoil!

I just bought a Taurus 92 AFS SS 9mm High Capacity for $375.00 Ran 200 rounds through it Saturday....no problem! The Price was a steal from Local gun store bought at end of last year. Was New In Box!

I have seen some similar deals on gunbroker.com (maybe not new?) But My Local store has plenty of the 15 rnd 92's for around $300.00

My post is here of Saturdays outing: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=570955
 
I'm open to all suggestions for now, everyone has the right idea, and I am still a few days from payday, so I hope to let it ride until then I will look into everything I can. everyone has been very kind to offer such a spectrum of advise, I take it all seriously. please keep it up if you want, you are building a true wealth of information for me, and I'd like to make a purchase next week with the most possible knowledge behind me.

I am currently going back through it all, and observing every detail. thanks guys.
 
I didnt read all the posts as so much info was given and all of it looked good imo also.
My vote would be for:
1. a high capacity 9mm,
2. High Point .45 carbine,
3. 870/500 12 gauge with low recoil 00buck.
I put them in the order i feel has the softest recoil.
 
If you can pull a slide back I recommend a 9mm, XD9, Ruger or Glock. If that doesn't work a 38 special revolver would work.
Don't dwell on your limitations, work on the things you can do and get comfortable with your current situations. We all hate to lose functions but we all at one point or another have to learn to live with what God gave us. Good luck my friend.

Thanx, Russ
 
I guess im lucky in where I use my guns purely for fun and I don't worry about defense too much; and i hope to god that i never have to since none of my calibers are suitable for defense due to fear of over penetration (bullet passing through multiple houses).

That said, if you haven't fired a hand gun in a long time, I really wouldnt recommend one since you might have a hard time hitting the target. Especially firing from inside a house under stress and with the disorienting loudness from firing from enclosed spaces.

I like the pistol caliber carbine idea... But i also thought that maybe a short double barrel carriage style shotgun loaded with the most powerful shells you can manage would be a good idea. It would be easy to aim and you should be able to shoot it accurately enough from the hip which also reduces felt recoil. Unless the intruder is hell bent on your demise, i don't think you would need more than 2 shots. You also have the plus of not worrying about jams.
 
I would second the Hi-Point Carbine as they are relatively cheap and inexpensive ($250-$350) and can be had in 9mm, .40, and .45 ACP. Its a win-win for you. You can also find many Ruger and Buckmark .22s in your price range. Marlin mod 60s are very accurate and affordable also.
I have an FNP-9, with 16 rd mags it is the only semi-auto I have kept in my gun vault. I love revolvers and they work better for me, but FN makes a fine product.
If you have a .22 or a .38 spec I would not feel under gunned remember its all about shot placement, a .22 to the head beats a miss with a .45 any day!
Stay frosty, find what you can manage comfortably and practice so that it becomes instinctive and you will be fine.
 
I went shooting this weekend and one of the guys had a 9mm carbine, what it was I have no clue. But he got it with its scope and all its accessories for $170 out the door. Sounds like thats right in you price range. I shot it and it was very accurate at 50yds, light, and had no recoil.
 
homedefender, my advice first of all before you buy would be to make sure that you can rack the slide of a semi automatic pistol. If you can, then any of the 9mm mentioned get the go ahead from me. (but I personally like the FNP from Buds)
 
Something else to keep in mind, there are a ton of used guns on the market with little use. If something strikes your fancy and new is too expensive, look for a used one.
I've never bought a bad used gun. Most guys on the gun boards buy and decide they want something else. Nothing wrong with the gun, they just want something different.

The XD line and the M&P's have interchangable backstraps to adjust to hand size. {there may be others}
My wife shoots my M&P with the small grip strap and I just swap it out to the large. Takes 30 seconds to change. I think you'll find the larger guns are easier to use and rack.
 
If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. - Dalai Lama

The Dalai Lama said that? wow. thanks everyone, I have been looking things over, and I went out and shot a glock 9mm, yesterday, no problems.

but, I can't hunt with it, and i have been remembering all the fun I used to have target shooting, I think I have the bug again, and have decided that I don't need to have just one firearm.

I plan to look back through and find a 9mm that works for me, and think that I'd like to have a shotgun of some kind. It might be uncomfortable at first, but that's fine, If it hurts my shoulder during a home invasion, they can just take us both to the hospital. LOL.

But I think that with the recoil reducing options that you have pointed out, it will be ok, and I will practice, and overcome.

anyone know where I could get a saiga 410 at a good price off hand?

seems like one of the less recoiling options, and most agree that they are good arms.

thanks everyone again. I am now looking at 9mm, and 410. any good links would help. I hope that in time, I can get a more potent gauge.

thanks high road, and I'll keep watching this thread up until the day I go next week. and will not be a stranger, and let you know what I get, and how I do.

HD
 
If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. - Dalai Lama

The Dalai Lama said that? wow.
Yes he did. It's amazing that the man most associated with peace also knows that to roll over for thugs is not a virtue. He probably knows better than most how a powerful government with no restraint can literally mow down a helpless group of people (China/Tibet) I saw the Dalai Lama in person once. There is something incredible about being in his presence.

Read THIS for more about how the man of peace views deadly force. I think it surprises many people.
 
I think you might be ok with a .45. If you get the right gun (think fullsize, a la XD 45 Tactical, etc.) and don't go with very hot loads, it's a surprisingly soft shooter IMO. You can probably track down some lighter 12ga loads as well.

This allows you to purchase once and then work up to hotter loads in both guns. I second the motion for a nice recoil pad or a custom stock as mentioned by several. For the .45, make sure it is very conmfortable in your hand. Anything that detracts from you have the strongest grip will make perceived recoil worse.
 
Hi Point Carbine 9mm .40 or .45acp

Short barrel ... 16 1/2 inches, very handy.
Inexpensive ammo to practice with.
Built in recoil system.
Affordable
Great guarantee.
Customer service is excellent.

I'm not a Hi Point fan boy. But I bought one ( .45 acp) recently and I'm impressed. As a home defense weapon for some one on a limited budget this is something you should consider. Mine shot up all the ammo we had at the time (300 rounds of cheap bulk) with out a hiccup. It was accurate enough and my daughter said she enjoyed shooting it. You can buy it with home defense stuff like lasers and flash lights that mount right on it, right from the company. It is not made like most of the guns I have, but it seems sturdy. It's actually on the heavy side. The ugly duckling has found a home with me.

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php
 
Well first of all I am sorry for your current predicament. I hope you get to feeling better soon!

Secondly, I have a pacemaker and understand your recoil sensitivity. I also have small hands, the smallest backstrap on the M&P 40 fits my hands best.

With all of that said, I will have to second a solid Ruger P95 9mm pistol. It is a good pistol and will keep you well within your budget!

God bless you friend!
 
If you're not going to be carrying anything and these are solely for home defense, you might want to consider an AR15. This option is very light, very low recoil, and very deadly. Instead of buying a handgun/shotgun combo for 800 bones, you could get a Spikes Tactical M4(a second tier AR imo) for very close money and have a very effective home defense weapon. YMMV.
 
... in a rough neighborhood...
In the short time that I have been here, My riding lawnmower has been stolen, a few of the people next to me has had break-ins, and crazy people roam the streets talking to themselves.

A notable nationwide trend is that home intrusion is increasing, and with multiple intruders.

To be prepared for multiple intruders, consider the capacity of your HD firearms options. I think you are headed in a direction that will cover this base nicely, but did not want for this concern to be overlooked.
 
one last question.

Ok guys, I got to shoot a 12 ga today, it was not as bad as I thought, and now I think I can handle it.

Which mossy shotguns are factory drilled, and tapped to accept a rail mount?

it's hard to find this info, been looking all day.
 
M 1 carbine and a S&W m66-4"

the m1 can be 15, 20 30 or 40 rounds--each one hitting like a 357. the action is easy; even with arthritic weakened hands. though if i was to be standing on my porch, a 12 gauge will be seen by the BG's as deadler than a m1. where perception trumps reality, id go with the 12
 
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