Anti-gun spouses from Heck.

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Wow.... I love my wife even more after reading this thread.

My wife isn't really anti, just a little nervous about the children (had a bad reaction to me talking about training the kids to shoot as they get older). Fortunately she is intelligent and open minded so I should be able to convince her it's a good idea with a well reasoned argument. Heck, the woman bought me a motorcycle as an anniversary gift while she was pregnant with our first child (we had always said our first kid would be a cycle and when she go pregnant she decided she had 9 months to produce a cycle or be in breach of contract)! :D
On another happy note she is the one that told me to go ahead and buy the Marlin 1894CBC lever action that I desperately want!
 
>>If a person is completely dead set against something that you think and feel is very
>>important, why, oh why on earth would you actually marry that person?

If I waited for the perfect woman, well.......

Someone mentioned it before, about "breaking his will". My wife wins most of the arguments
we have. She is anti. She's also a fiesty Italian. She's also not stupid. She knows the 6 figure paycheck and $.5M house go bye bye if I leave. Even in the people's republic, we have both seen divorces crush both peoples situations. I respect her (wrong) opinion and she respects mine as much as she disagrees with it.

She can disagree. However my 'will' will not be broken.

There are a few topics I reserve the nuclear option for. Debt and guns are the two biggies (in that order). Ironically enough, if I didn't have the onions to fight her on some issues, she would have probably never married me.

She's also a size 4. Arguing is some of the price I pay :D

So far it has worked for 5 years! We'll see!
 
Being twice divorced makes me an expert - right? :)

Both were pro- gun. The daddy of the first one was my shooting partner for years, he is still my personal physican. Second one, raised in the country, guns were a way of life.

First one decided Adultry - I divorced. Second one had hormonal imbalance due to pancreatitis.

My Theory: Couples go through stages, meeting, dating, engagement, and marriage, each year of marriage and that happens.[kids,good or bad fortune...etc.] Each stages presents changes in the indivdual and the couples relationship to each other. Impressions are sometimes NOT to impress the other, but the individual on how they are to self.

Brutal honesty is the key IMO.
As they say...change persons, playmates and playthings". Meaning hang with the right folks, with same interests, and activities and a lot of bad experiences "may not happen".

I did this, got bit..so much for theories - huh?

Best advice I heard " nobody ought to get married until they are 86 y/o - by then too old to care, to deaf to hear, to blind to see mistakes".
 
First off, it's good to see you back, Okiecruffler.

My ex wasn't anti, per se, just self-absorbed and a spendthrift as long as it was on herself. I eventually sold 16 BHP's to help finance my court-mandated liposuction on that one (I lost 300 pounds of mean, ugly fat). She sold the Baby Browning I gave her for a 'purse gun' to a felon she worked with for $50. and I imagine the S&W Model 60 I bought her met a similar fate. She was always ragging me about 'going shooting' almost every weekend ( I was hitting the competition circuit) and I eventually sold my M1A to someone who thought it was worth a lot more money than I did.

My current wife is just the opposite. She keeps trying to cabbage onto my (last) BHP for her own until I buy her a 1911. She has her own range membership and can come close to out-shooting me with my own Garand and AR. About 25 years ago she popped a burglar trying to break into her patio door with her dad's old warhorse .45.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
Lots of interesting posts on this thread. Which leads me to believe there are some things worse than being alone. It took me a long time to find Mrs. Meek but after reading some of these terrible stories I'd say it was worth the wait.
 
Wow, some of you had some scary ex(s). My little gal is the daughter of a sheriff. When an acquaintance offered to sell me a full-sized H&K USP 9 for $300, she said you buy that or don't come home. I just grinned.

Finding the right woman is so important. You first have to find one that could be your best friend first. The love will come later. We don't always agree. She's much 'harder' on stupid people then I am. I'd actually feel sorry for someone that tried to physically harm any of us. She'd go a little beyond slide lock. More like "I'm out of ammo, pass me that meat cleaver and pencil, NOW!"
 
I'm especially thankful I've never been interested in an anti yet now that I've read some of these stories. In fact, my current interest not only said she wants to go shooting, she's also an ex-PRK resident.
 
Live together first!!!
I'd love to hear the female perspective on this, but here's the Male:
Women (and prob men too) will pretend to be completely different people if they think it will make you marry them. Live together for a long time until you're sure they've let their guard down. I'm convinced marriage would occur at least 50% less often if this advice was followed. I was recently released from a long relationship (dated for 7 yrs lived together for 5). I thought she was the perfect match for a long time, but right about the time I was thinking "maybe its time", she ran out of patience. Lucky me. Apparantly she really does want kids, is religious, doesnt really like guns or cars or skiing, and would prefer I say nothing around anyone she knows. I never hid anything about myself and always made it clear that I love guns, cars, skiing, hate kids and speak my mind whenever and however I feel like. What do you think she was waiting for?;)
 
Live together first!!!
That may be questionable advice in a society which considers live-ins to be domestic partners which gives the potential for lots of legal action under the domestic violence-restraining-order-domestic-threats-and-other-bs statutes.

As for me I never lived with Mrs. Meek before we were married, but I knew she was the one when she took my S&W and claimed it as her own. :D
 
Live together first!!!
Me and my ex lived together for 8 years before we got married. The marriage lasted 17 months.
The woman I married was not the same woman I divorced.
 
Wow 8 yrs and she was still in Camo!
8 yrs in Vt is common law married anyway.
I guess yours had more patience. Would have made a good turkey hunter!:)
 
My wife is pretty neutral, or for the most part doesn't care about guns. I think she accepts the fact that I have thousands of dollars in reloading gadgets, more rifles than I have time to ever shoot, and that occassionally a new gun might miraculously appear in my collection.

My only problem is that I cannot go to the range as much as I'd like to, or spend as much time reloading as I'd like to. She keeps a honey-do list so long that I'll never finish and considers an hour of my time reloading or tinkering to be 'screwing off' instead of getting something productive done.

She really likes shooting during the times when all of the planets and the moon align where we both have time, the kd is at Grandma's house, I happen to have enough ammo on hand, and can convince her to go to the range with me.

I figure that I have about 10 years to wait until my son will be getting into hunting and shooting, then taking the kd to the range once a week might be more acceptable to her than me going once or twice a month now.
 
Last studies I saw said that living together--even for long periods--didn't increase the odds of a marriage being successful. IIRC, it actually slightly increased the likelihood of divorce.

The theory is that people don't really settle down and be themselves until there have been some serious committments made (e.g. marriage vows.) Also, what makes a marriage strong is how well the two folks understand committment--that's not something you learn by avoiding them (i.e. living together.) If two people understand commitments, they'll work hard to make sure that they stand by those commitments after the marriage, and they'll work hard before the marriage to make sure that they aren't committing to something that can't possibly last.

My dating M.O. was to spend the first date discussing very basic issues--religion--politics--family. It's just plain foolish to risk developing an emotional attachment with someone who has fundamental differences with you. Once the hormones kick in, you're no longer thinking rationally. Get the important stuff out of the way right off the bat and THEN see where the "chemistry" takes you.

I do admit that you don't always get to plan things that well. The only solution for that is to make sure that those around you know what you're like. Then if something comes out of the blue, it is to be hoped that someone will fill in the blanks for one or both of you if there is a major compatibility issue.
 
First wife was scared to death of guns. I could have them she just didn't want to see them. Divorced for a long nasty list of reasons but guns weren't among them. My 2nd, current and last wife likes to shoot as much as I do. She bought me a gun safe for Chrstmas so I'd have room for a couple more. Finding the right person is hard but it's great when it happens.
Being 1/2 Sicilian and 1/4 Apache she does have a temper. God help somebody she decides has earned the right to stop breathing. Being a good ol boy from Virginia I'm much more laid back than she is, just don't mess with my wife, moma, kid or dog. That order can shift around from time to time but all 4 are important.
 
My wife isn't too interested in guns, but I wouldn't call her an anti. I have just a couple of guns, and she didn't enjoy shooting my AK. I guess it was too heavy and kicked too much. I'll just have to buy one for her, thinking about a small and lightweight Bushmaster M4. She sometimes wonders why people ccw just to the grocery store and the like... slowly trying to convince her.

And about living together first, I think the latest stats on that are you are 4 times as likely to get divorced if you live together first. We didn't before we got married last year.

Your results may vary.
 
On the very first date I was asked to stop shooting. Yeah right, I was shooting competitive 3 position, air rifle and high power and doing very well. I just look at her and said I don't give anything up on the first date and I will never give up shooting. We dated for a couple years but the one I married just bought her own 1911 and bennellie M-2, starting to reload for her 1911 and cleans my shotguns and rifles but says the glocks are a pain and leaves those for me to clean.
 
I guess I am pretty lucky. Met my future Loving Wife and our first date was to shoot skeet from a hand trap! She did pretty fair and I had her hooked! Now 20yrs later our oldest son(19),middle son(17)and her all shoot Hipower,some Cowboy Action,and BPCR. Our youngest (6)is the "Brass Monkey"and sees that ALL brass is picked up.Ours and any other that the other shooters will give him!

Oneshooter
Livin in TEXAS
 
See folks this is yet another reason, being a gay guy aint quite so bad. My B/F is rather pro gun, and dispite his location (Kommifornistan) I'm working on arming him sufficiently.

No fights where guns came up, for I did receive a 500 check to be spent on firearms only from him for my birthday. :)
 
My ex isn't so much an anti as a rabid hoplophobe. I have three short stories to share, a drop in the bucket compared to the fourteen years we were together.

#1 "The family vacation"

We drove out of state on vacation several years ago and I took two friends ~ namely Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson, along for the ride. I'd already made a careful study of the laws and regulations of each state we'd pass through, even going so far as to call the Maryland State Police to ensure that the information was up to date, and so I knew what was permissible and what was not.

During the long drive, most of which was done at night, my wife and daughter frequently had to use the facilities at lonely rest areas and on those occasions I discreetly kept watch to protect them from danger. The next morning I pulled into a McDonald's in a state which allowed non-residents to carry loaded handguns in thier gloveboxes and so I took the liberty of doing so. Unfortunately, my ex returned with the food at the same time I was closing the latch and owing to her suspicious nature she immediately opened it and literally exploded at the sight of my Model 642.

So there I am, sitting in a car in the middle of summer - windows down and cars parked all around, while she screams and yells at the top of her lungs about how she's not going to come visit me in jail when I get arrested, and how she's going to take our daughter and divorce me if I am, and how it's probably going to go off and kill someone, etc. etc. Everyone, and I do mean everyone within fifty yards is stopping dead in thier tracks or craning thier necks to stare at us as she'd just informed everyone not legally deaf that I was carrying a handgun. It was in vain that I reminded her of the laws in that state, because she was never one to let a little thing like facts spoil a good emotional tantrum. She merely kept repeating what she'd said over and over and over while I started the engine and drove away before anyone could write down our license plate and report a domestic disturbance.


Did I mention that our daughter was busy covering her ears in the back seat?


#2 "Gun cleaning"

Although my firearm maintenance frequently elicited arguments in the early stages of our marriage, she eventually came to realize that I was going to do it regardless of her opinions on the matter and thus ceased to complain. One evening, as I sat at the dining room table carefully scrubbing out the barrel of my Colt Series 80, she wandered over for a look. Without so much as a single question she picks up the .38 revolver to my left and says "Oh, so this is what the criminals use to rob stores" before pointing it directly at my face and pulling the trigger! Not once, mind you, but repeatedly and accompanied by her best impressions of a gunshot. I'm sitting there ashen-faced with my mouth hanging open while the trigger is clicking and she's saying "bang, bang, bang!" (Thank the Lord I'm paranoid about ensuring my guns are unloaded when not in use)

As you can imagine I snatched it from her hand so fast it made her jump back half a step, and an instant later she was furiously launching into an indignant tirade about how "rude" I was and how I had no right to take it from her like a she was a child. Nevermind that she'd been acting like one, a fact which I told her straight out. She was still shouting to wake the dead as I hurriedly packed up the guns, put them in the safe, and cleared the table.

Funny thing was, she had the nerve to ask me later that same year why I never tried to teach her to shoot. Not that she wanted to learn, but just to "know why I never offered." Yeah right, like I'm going to offer to teach a woman who's physically abusive and subject to rages, has a temper problem, is insecure, and plays with guns like toys. :rolleyes:


#3 "The (so-called) Anniversary present"

I'll never forget my first gun. It was shortly before our anniversary that I found a sweet deal on a nice Colt revolver and quickly plunked down the necessary funds to complete the transaction. Although I appreciated my good fortune the wife threw a fit, loudly proclaiming that she'd divorce me if I purchased the gun or even dared to bring it into the house, as she would not live in a home with guns. As the days of the waiting period passed, she repeated her ultimatum and even went so far as to make a show of partially packing an overnight bag. Finally the day came for me to pick up my blued steel beauty and I proudly brought it home to discover that the wife was right where I left her - clearly not a woman of her word.

Well, true to form her ego wouldn't permit her to admit that she'd been unable to control my actions and so in an effort to cushion her wounded pride she managed to convince herself that she'd "allowed" me to purchase the gun as an anniversary present. Imagine! Not only had she "let" me buy it, but she'd even paid for it. How convenient. Better still, she even had the male genitalia to tell that story to members of my family who had heard her threats and rants against the purchase only a few weeks earlier.

Ah, the lengths to which self-delusion will go.....
 
I would never ever get hooked up with an anti. I would imagine that an anti and I would differ so much in other areas there would be conflict from the start. Most antis are socialists at the core. Just not enough core values and beliefs in common to make a "relationship" work.
I'd stay away from fence sitters too. Fence sitters in my opinion are time-bombs waiting to become antis. All they need is the right conditions to push them over. They could also be camoflaging anti leanings with a fence sitter attitude until they think they have their hooks in you deep enough to try and mold you in their image. They calculate that at some point you will feel you have too much invested in the "relationship" to walk away. A gross miscalculation. I'll always retain and excercise my right to opt out. Life is too short to put up with a miserable relationship
My philosophy is this: No compromise. "The guns were here long before you showed up and will be here long after you're gone and been replaced".
 
My current GF isn't really an anti, but she has a huge aversion to handling or using guns. She claims it was because of a childhood incident where an irresponsible youth pointed an unloaded gun at her and chased her around her own house. I've tried to get her to handle them (picking them up is a victory in my book) and understand that they are just machines.
She has said that she will go shooting with me sometime. I'm going to start her with my 10/22 and possibly CZ-75B.

Her mother on the other hand is a former gun owner turned anti. Kinda strange considering the strong military herritage of her family. Dad was a capt. in the USAF, brother recently retired from the Army. Her husband (my GF's father) spent several years in the Army. At any rate, my potential MIL always asks me why I need them and tells me I'll never use them. I always respond that they get used everytime I go target shooting. :neener:
Her husband has long since given up any interest in guns (even though he was exposed to MANY in his days as a Ranger)

She is far too stubborn to ever turn from the dark side. There is hope, however, for her daughter. :evil: She may not end up carrying, but she will understand them and know how to handle them.
 
wow, after reading some of these, i'm glad my wife (a former fence post sitter) isn't that bad after all. She actually got on to me the other day for NOT taking her shooting in the past 2 weeks.
 
My ex was not anti.
In fact I gave her a Ruger Blackhawk, .357mag!!!
After I found her with a guy (twice), I had enough and moved out!!
Well, my (now) ex in-laws had given me a Marlin M36 for a birthday. The little witch wanted me to give it back to them!!! I said "no dice"!!! The rifle left with me as did all the rest of my guns, save the Ruger!! I wish I had that pistol now, because, I bet the :cuss: sold it!! :banghead:

My current wife has confiscated my G26, forcing me to go and buy another!!
She also latched on to my Kel-Tec P32!!
She is also bugging me to send her to the AZ CCW class because she is jealous that I carry concealed and she has to open carry!! :neener:
As soon as I have the extra money, I'll do it!! ;)
 
My hat is off to you guys. Those stories are just... words fail me, so :what: :uhoh: :eek: :banghead: :barf:

I had one self-centerd b1+ch for a GF for a time and learned plenty. Nothing of the sort described above though.

Mrs. igor comes from a rural family where elk is felled each fall and has zero issue with my guns. She's keen on sports so my modest competing in IPSC and Finnish military reserve 3-gun is valuable as such.

She shoots a few strings, very safely and surely, every time we're at her parents' place (range behind the barn) but isn't interested in getting more into it. She might have to take her dad's place in the elk hunting team in the coming years, though. She'd get a couple of good rifles with that deal too... and I keep saying that I can't take that slot in the club, it's her family stuff so she'll have to. We'll see what that'll bring :evil: :D
 
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