Mid Divorce. . . Wife Took Guns!

[LiquidTension]

The thing with the restraining order is that his reasons for filing are more credible than her reasons for taking the guns, so he has no reason to lie about it. All he needs to do is tell the truth - he's never intimidated or threatened her, so the only reason she could have to take his guns is to use them.

In SC, once papers have been filed it's illegal to remove objects from the residence. I don't know about Liberty911's state.

 

[MrKandiyohi]

1) Get a lawyer

2) Make a list of every possession of hers. Make a motion to get all of those items or to have them sold in order to split the money. Let her know that two can play that game.

 

[whm1974]

from what I'm reading here I'm never going to get married. I see no reason to lose everything I worked for and go through a bunch of crap because my SO decied I don't spend enough time with her.

-Bill

 

[Rockstar]

Guy started a thread five days ago; has received lots of good information; has not responded again. Maybe he had the same kind of problems "following through" and "sticking with it" with his wife.

Surely, he's not so stupid that he wouldn't have a lawyer by now. If so, then maybe his wife did the right thing by taking his guns.

 

[Mannlicher]

Kinda been there, but I had the foresight to see the big D coming, and took care of securing my stuff, money, house, and other assets. You should have too.
Sorry for ya that it worked out this way.

 

[liberty911]

Thanks for the information

Lots of good information here guys. Just so you know, there are lawyers involved on my side. I just don't want to give too much personal info regarding the status right now as it would be more easily traced back to me if someone were to look. I appreciate you efforts and understand you would like to know more. When it is all over and done, I'll post how the proceeds transpired.

I do knwo one thing, no more marriage for me!

 

[Ivy Mike]

Smart man!

My GF has been giving me grief lately about me not wanting to get married. She's living with it for now, however there may come a time when she won't want to. At that point, its bye-bye birdie! NV is a community property state though.

 

[liberty911]

Follow Up. . .

It's been 4 months, and I am happy to say everything is wound fairly amicably. And I GOT MY GUNS BACK TODAY!

BTW, my ex is an attorney and so am I, so we were able to wrap things up fairly amicably. Thank you everybody for your advise. During the "negotiations" I really left the subject of the "arsenal" alone. Yes, she claim with 3 guns I had established an "arsenal." She tried to use the guns as a bargaining chip until I said, "go ahead keep them. Just be sure to do all the paper work to transfer the registration and pay the fees." Then all of a sudden she didn't want them anymore.

The nice thing it is during the interim I added a nice SP101 3" revolver to my collection. Now it's off to the range this weekend to say hello to my reunited little friends.

 

[FunGunner]

Good to hear you got your stuff back, nice with the reg, fees, transfer stuff.


To far off lands and good friends!

FG

 

[shermacman]

Glad it worked out as well as can be expected.

As has been said on this forum before: The plural of 'gun' is 'arsenal'.

 

[38SnubFan]

Glad to hear everything went well, and that your guns have been returned without having to jump through hoops and bounds to do it (and a lot of extra time and effort and possibly expense).

Make sure you give your reunited friends a hug from me! And make sure to introduce them Mr. Ruger as well. You don't want any jealousy starting (They may gang up and shoot at each other! )

Again, glad to hear everything went OK.

-38SnubFan

 

[Marshall]

Congrats, that's a worrisome ordeal, glad they all came back home.

 

[coonan357]

glad it all worked out for you , I like your way of negotiating , did it with my ex and when it went to court she had to pay me back for me supporting her while she was in college + the cost of schooling . hows the saying go?? paybacks are a *****! wish you luck in the future now to find my misses right a woman with a class 1 thru 6 ffl and owns a gunstore.

 

[sumpnz]

Just to be on the safe side, I would highly recommend that you throughly inspect those guns for any possibly damage (and give them a good cleaning and lube, of course). Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. She may have done something to render them non-functional, and/or possibly dangerous to fire.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Congratulations on an amiable divorce and on the recovery of your firearms.

 

[waterhouse]

Glad everything worked out in the end.

She tried to use the guns as a bargaining chip until I said, "go ahead keep them. Just be sure to do all the paper work to transfer the registration and pay the fees." Then all of a sudden she didn't want them anymore.

Funny how that works. I think my sister-in-law taught me that trick once before I had to go babysit my niece and nephew for the weekend. They were always fighting over toys, and as soon as one of them lost interest in the fight the other one would just put the toy down and play with something else. They were 4 and 7 years old, respectively, but I guess this sort of thing carries on to older folks sometimes.

 

[Tom Servo]

Just to be on the safe side, I would highly recommend that you throughly inspect those guns for any possibly damage

+1. A friend of mine went through a very similar situation, and when he got his guns back, both of the barrels looked like someone had taken a claw-hammer to them. This was interesting, because the wife didn't like guns and didn't know anything about them, so she must have gotten someone else to disassemble and mutilate them. One was a Baer. He sued and won.

Thing was, I knew them both before they were married, and they were a storybook couple. Things just disintegrate gradually in a million little ways over a few years. Add to that the fact that we live in a society where marriage just isn't taken very seriously, and like everything else, if it requires work, why bother?

There should be a national 5-year moratorium on divorce (except for blatant abuse cases) in this country. Watch the marriage rates plummet to nothing. Sorry if that sounds bitter, but I'm 32 and the only person my age-group who hasn't been through a messy divorce. Everyone I know lived the college-job-marriage-house-kids routine, not because it's what made them happy, but because that's what was expected. They all rushed in, and nobody felt like comitting any serious work to it, and it got ugly. I came very close to marriage once, until I found out (after we'd been dating a year) that my wife-to-be was still sleeping with her ex-husband from time to time. She'd never even told me she'd been previously married.

After that, I just ducked out of the rat-race entirely. It's not for everyone, but celibacy certainly makes life easy and uncomplicated.

 

[Nick_90]

Don't make it a big deal. The bitch probably just took them the same way as she would have taken your hi fi or your computer. Just get your lawyer to take the proper legal steps to have them returned like you would with any other of your belongings. Don't attract attention on the fact that they are guns, it may just give your wife ammunition to depict you as a wacko...

 

[chaim]

It's been 4 months, and I am happy to say everything is wound fairly amicably. And I GOT MY GUNS BACK TODAY!

BTW, my ex is an attorney and so am I, so we were able to wrap things up fairly amicably.

I'm sorry about the divorce, but I'm glad that in the end it ended amicably.

As for calling her bluff on the guns, good decision.

I'm glad all ended well.

(Though I'm not sure how your both being attorneys helped end things amicably- many people can divorce amicably who aren't attorneys. Is it because of shared professional contacts that you both toned things down or something- being in a shared profession, rather than both being lawyers, that mattered?)

 

[twency]

Though I'm not sure how your both being attorneys helped end things amicably

A couple possibilities:


1.) Speaking as someone with two lawyers in the immediate family:

You do know why snakes don't attack lawyers, right?

Professional courtesy! (Ba-dum-bum-ching!)


2.) Could be something of the theory of nuclear weapons - Mutual Assured Destruction. When both sides know the other has the power to decimate them, there's an incentive for both to act reasonably.


-twency

(You know how to tell the difference between a lawyer and a vulture? Only one has feathers on its wingtips.)

 

[Selfdfenz]

I have to think when I read this kind of little bedtime story (and having such clear memories of having been there, done that myself) if the gay people are serious about wanting legal, equal etc access to marriage, as a group, they either can't be very smart or aren't paying very close attention.



S-

 

[JohnKSa]

Why did you men choose wives who are/were so, well, incompatible?

There's a good bit of that going on, of course, but there's also the issue of "things" changing after marriage.

Classic example is a friend of mine who married an LEO. This was a woman who was issued a car and firearms and told to go forth and make her little part of the world a safer place--she didn't even have a ride-along partner. As you might expect, she was quite a strong and self-sufficient person. Not long after they got married, she quit her job and now is a stay-at-home-mom. NOTHING wrong with that, but the strength and self-sufficiency evaporated like flatulence in a hurricane. She is now the kind of person who calls her husband 5 minutes before quitting time to tell him stuff like "the printer isn't working right." He's going to be home in 10 minutes, but she can't even handle these minor issues for that long without a little verbal reassurance.

That's extreme, but I've seen very similar things happen--another worth mentioning was a female coworker. She was in her early 40s and had been divorced for years--maybe more than 10 years. Extremely attractive, well groomed and in great shape. She got married and within less than a year you'd never recognize her. It was sad and also a bit scary. There's another female coworker who has a similar "affliction"--I can tell with a single glance from 100 yards away if she's currently in a happy relationship (from her perspective) or "looking". Trust me, her "happy relationships" don't last long, and there's not much mystery why. She even stops combing her hair!

I know another guy who was married for over a year before he found out that his wife used chewing tobacco. Not a deal-breaker by any means, but that took some work to conceal!

I dated a crazy woman for a few months. Amazing at first and then a slow slide into a borderline nutcase. Of course, she was a nutcase the whole time, but she covered it up frighteningly well for awhile.

 

[38SnubFan]

I dated a crazy woman for a few months. Amazing at first and then a slow slide into a borderline nutcase. Of course, she was a nutcase the whole time, but she covered it up frighteningly well for awhile.

HAHA! That one sounds all too familiar. Like the ex-fiancé who told me if I bring a gun into the home she would immediately pack and leave. The relationship ended when her verbal (and sometimes physical) aggression became too much. After the last verbal fight, I told her to come, get her things, and be out by the end of the night or I'd be throwing her belongings out the 3rd floor window into the parking lot and she could retrieve her items from there. When she arrived, she started screaming and yelling and attempted to punch me in the fact. She got a quick leg-sweep and knocked on her bottom, to which I gave her EXACTLY 30 MINUTES TO pack up and vacate; if she attempted to strike me one more time, I'd have her arrested for assault.

She found out quickly I wasn't playing games anymore, quickly shuffled her stuff out the door, and left. Her mother knew about the problems already, so I called her to let her know she left and that she (the mother) was welcome to keep in touch.

She must have told her "new boyfriend" some lies about me, because it wasn't long after that I started receiving threats from him after she tried to get back with me and I said, "No way!"

That's when I decided it was time to get the CHL and a gun. Already had the training - now I have the tools as well.

Learned never to go near a woman who won't let me be me. That's a sure sign of trouble up front!

-38SnubFan

 

[2nd Amendment]

Well, this is probably off-topic and will probably get me snarled at, but...

Men get married and often gradually go to hell physically. Pot gut, less attention to clothes, etc. It's a long-term cumulative thing(usually) and not necessarily good nor am I defending or failing to note it. But, it's seldom sudden or really obvious except over a period of years. Many women, OTOH, literally go to ruin immediately upon marriage. I noticed this when I was a kid but thought they were just getting "old"(everyone's old when you're 18).

At 40 I watch 22 year olds do this. It's like they got their catch so there's no need to look good anymore. It has to be a self respect issue, obviously, but why do so many women do this. Then, when they wind up single again BOOM, svelte, well groomed and attractive all over again. Is it just our society that supports/causes this? Accounted for because they are unhappy in the relationship(lots of unhappy women out there if that's the case), what?

My first wife did this. Gorgeous long-legged red head with a killer figure. Got married, had a kid and she outweighed me and stayed that way...till we got divorced. She remarried, ballooned up again and stayed that way till she died. I asked her what the reasoning was and she couldn't even attempt to give me an explanation...

 

[Billmanweh]

I think we've got some potential Tom Leykis listeners here...