CMP Update on Carbines

[zinj]

CMP just updated thier carbine page, no prices yet though.

However, They will begin to accept orders for Service Grade Inlands on April 30th. There will be other manufacturers available but not till September. They will not be offering rack grades for a while as they need them for spare parts at this point. My reading between the lines say that these guns are for the most part in good condition, possibly refurbished before they were put into storage!

They also don't have any slings, oilers, or most importantly magazines. I'd buy the mags now before their prices truely go through the roof.

 

[rocketfish]

RTFM wrote: "idiot"

What? I thought you'd be happy? The carbines are now available dude go and buy one!

 

[Wes Janson]

I concur. Buy mags today if you're thinking of getting one...even if it's only 10,000 carbines they've received, that's >10,000 magazines that people are going to be buying up in the next six months, and I'm sure the market supply isn't all that huge.

 

[Blackfork]

Previous CMP Carbine Prices.

Two years ago the CMP had M1 Carbines for club sales only at 500.00. There were very few to no takers. They had a sale, cut the price to 350.00 and let individuals buy through their affiliated clubs. They quickly sold out. Those carbines were rifles that had been rearsenaled in 1953 and stored since then. They had adjustable rear sights but Type I and II barrel bands, lots of high wood stocks, early stocks, cartouches and manufacturers stamps, flat bolts, and a mix-match of early parts. I got one that had an Irwin Pederson buttplate worth 200.00 by itself. You could have any maker you wanted, by request, if they had it. I got a Winchester, IBM, Standard Product, and Inland for 378.00 each, delivered.

I think 550.00 for a Italian-rebuilt carbine is on the high side. If they were the same early but 1953 rearsenaled carbines they would be worth what they wouldn't sell for then, (500.) but 550.00 seems high.

Hope they try and keep the price reasonable.

 

[offthepaper]

I agree with some of the posters here stating IF the $550 price is correct, it does seem a bit high for a rifle manufactored in the millions. Especially (as already stated) for a sight unseen rifle. I also don't like that it does'nt come with a mag. It seems as though the rifles would'nt be purchased in mass quanities (at importer level)without a matching or more quanity of mags. Is this normal for mil surp import deals (I don't know myself, anyone familar with mass imports of milsurps). But of course, a lot of the ill feelings over price may fade a little if the first one's show up in a superior condition.

 

[zinj]

I think this $550 number is just a rumor that has taken on a life of its own, much like that rumor that was flying a week or two ago that the carbines were in horrible condition and had bores with no rifling. I believe the CMP is astute enough to not price a used Carbine that close to an AO replica.

As to the magazines, you have to remember that the CMP is not an importer, in fact these carbines were never technically imported. Rather they were sent back to the Army from lease in Italy, and the Army gave them to the CMP as they have no further use for them. As to where the magazines went, I have no idea. Maybe they were already surplused (wasn't there a time not too long ago where you could buy Carbine magazines in bulk for like $2?), or maybe Italy kept them. That the magazines held more than ten rounds could also be a factor.