DC Council to legalize semi automatic handguns
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Bubbles
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DC must be worried about losing Heller II.
ctdonath
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They're learning that defending the indefensible doesn't work.
Presumably they've been chewed out bigtime by their anti-gun friends for screwing things up by doing stupid things that end up in front of SCOTUS.
Presumably they've been chewed out bigtime by their anti-gun friends for screwing things up by doing stupid things that end up in front of SCOTUS.
Tribal
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So a Beretta 85 isn't a "machine gun" but a Beretta 84 is. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up, DC.
Standing Wolf
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Amazing things happen when you hold governent's feet to the fire of law. We should try it more often.
DC had a chance to implement regulations that followed Heller, supra.
The regulations they implemented were in direct violation of the holding in Heller, supra, and they simply cannot be trusted to craft any new appropriate regulations IMHO.
I hope Congress goes forward with their amendment.
I do not trust anything coming out of the DC government relative to the 2nd Amendment. I don't trust them because they have shown themselves to be untrustworthy IMHO.
The regulations they implemented were in direct violation of the holding in Heller, supra, and they simply cannot be trusted to craft any new appropriate regulations IMHO.
I hope Congress goes forward with their amendment.
I do not trust anything coming out of the DC government relative to the 2nd Amendment. I don't trust them because they have shown themselves to be untrustworthy IMHO.
ZeSpectre
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This drama is taking too long...now I have to go get more popcorn! 
mgkdrgn
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Dateline, Washington DC.
In an amazing turn of events, in the DC primaries yesterday EVERY sitting member of the city council, except one, was re-nominated to return to office in the general election.
In one city ward, 8000 votes were cast by the 4000 registered voters of that ward. Officials are at a loss to explain this, considering the overall 16% voter turnout for this primary election.
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Oh ya, they are REALLY feeling the heat on the DC city council. And no, I really didn't make any of this up.
bigjohnson
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TRIBAL WROTE: "So a Beretta 85 isn't a Machine gun, but a Beretta 84 is."
Actually, Tribal, BOTH the Beretta 85 and 85 are machine guns under DC law. The way the law is written, ANY semi-automatic pistol that has a detatchable box magazine is considered a machine gun because even though the magazine only holds, say, 7 rounds, the magazine can be replaced with one that is larger, and that holds more than 12 rounds. For example, a Colt M1911 holds 7 in the magazine and one in the chamber. But you can buy a replacement magazine for a 1911 that holds 15 rounds. Since the gun is CAPABLE of accepting a magazine holding more than 12 rounds, it is a machine gun.
Makes perfect sense, don't you agree?
Actually, Tribal, BOTH the Beretta 85 and 85 are machine guns under DC law. The way the law is written, ANY semi-automatic pistol that has a detatchable box magazine is considered a machine gun because even though the magazine only holds, say, 7 rounds, the magazine can be replaced with one that is larger, and that holds more than 12 rounds. For example, a Colt M1911 holds 7 in the magazine and one in the chamber. But you can buy a replacement magazine for a 1911 that holds 15 rounds. Since the gun is CAPABLE of accepting a magazine holding more than 12 rounds, it is a machine gun.
Makes perfect sense, don't you agree?
GlowinPontiac
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I still dont see why DC's mayor is not in federal prison for blatantly ignoring a supreme court ruling. I hope every single gun owner or gun owner to be sues them into financial ruin. Just hearing that the council is only allowing one FFL to do transfers a a cost of 125 bucks a pop made me see red.
mgkdrgn
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They would allow the other 4 or 5 FFL's to do transfers (as they are in place and approved, they don't have much choice actually), but the other FFL's want nothing to do with dealing with the general public.
Having just spend 30 years in DC, and hence knowing the expenses this guy is facing and the VERY limited market he has, he'll be lucky to break even at $125 a pop. Fortunately, this isn't his "day job". If it was, he'd have to charge enough to actually make a living at it (in a place where the median home price is still in the high 6 figures.)
Bartholomew Roberts
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Hmmm... notice how many cities are singing a different tune now that they have to cough up both their own legal fees and Gura's legal fees as well? All of a sudden, they seem a lot less eager to go to Court just to stick it to law-abiding citizens.
Henry Bowman
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Let's hope NYC is next to see the light.
Let's hope NYC is next to see the light
Unfortunately, unlike the small municipalities that have dropped their outright bans, NY has......
1. A lotttttttttttt more tax payer money to squander
2. A state (NY) that also has a number of restrictive laws it would not like to see challenged, unlike large chunks of IL.
3. A mayor who is happy AND capable of paying for legal costs out of his pocket change
4. No outright direct bans.....They're just "Reasonable restrictions".
NYC will fight hard and mean on this....
Unfortunately, unlike the small municipalities that have dropped their outright bans, NY has......
1. A lotttttttttttt more tax payer money to squander
2. A state (NY) that also has a number of restrictive laws it would not like to see challenged, unlike large chunks of IL.
3. A mayor who is happy AND capable of paying for legal costs out of his pocket change
4. No outright direct bans.....They're just "Reasonable restrictions".
NYC will fight hard and mean on this....
Personally, I think it's the bill in congress that the Democrats don't want to have to vote on (sponsored by 47 Democrats, btw).
I'm betting the national party is screaming at them to get their act together so they don't lose because of this issue (NRA backing for the more conservative Democrats).
Maybe not. Most of NY outside of NYC is not as virulently anti-gun as you might think.
I think the courts will look askance at the way the restrictions have been imposed. On the face of them, they may appear to be reasonable, but the reality is something different.
lacoochee
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Trust me if there is any money to be made not even Bloomberg has enough change to feed the rapacious appetites of a legion of lawyers.
burningsquirrels
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my response...
agree, or disagree?
agree, or disagree?
mgkdrgn
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Well DUH! Criminals don't follow the laws ... it's kind of like their job.
I don't know what the Chief there in DC has been smoking, but I hope she brought enough for everybody. To have that statement even come out of her mouth just demonstrates how far out of touch with reality these people are.
He can't have been smoking anything
good enough to convince someone to believer something so stupid.
Because any such substance is already illegal, which means, by their own argument, that nobody is doing it.... right?
But what do you expect from a bunch of mammals that are only half a chromosome removed from a chimpanzee?
--Shannon
good enough to convince someone to believer something so stupid.
Because any such substance is already illegal, which means, by their own argument, that nobody is doing it.... right?
But what do you expect from a bunch of mammals that are only half a chromosome removed from a chimpanzee?
--Shannon
yokel
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They certainly could be ruled constitutional by any ideologue leftist judge with a documented history of bending the rules to obtain the leftist result.
Of course, all those noisome regulations and restrictions improve our ability to protect and promote public health and safety.
No, it’s not going over well at all — among people with intellectual integrity, that is. (Those lacking integrity are, naturally, thrilled.)
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