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ON SHEEP, WOLVES, AND SHEEPDOGS
By LTC(RET) Dave Grossman, RANGER, Ph.D.,author of "On Killing."

Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so
because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy
things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that
may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,
even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth
dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the
United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:
"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive
creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the
murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate
is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans
are not inclined to hurt one another.

Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent
crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record
rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which
means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one
in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are
committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably
less than two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation:
We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still
remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people
who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme
provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the
pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow
into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue
shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and
someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For
now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves
feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there
who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil
men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget
that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in
denial.

"Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to
protect the flock and confront the wolf."

If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive
citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy
for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But
what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow
citizens?
What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking
the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the
universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

Let me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep,
wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes
them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the
world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire
extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids'
schools.

But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police
officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely
to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the
sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone
coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the
path of denial.

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the
wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is
that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep
dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished
and removed.
The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative
democracy or a republic such as ours.

Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that
there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them
where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our
airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much
rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, "Baa."

Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to
hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough
high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not
have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had
nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT
teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel
those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs
feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.

Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded
hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt
differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Remember how
many times you heard the word hero?

Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a
sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a
funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the
breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a
righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous
battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move
to the sound of the guns when needed right along with the young ones.

Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep
pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After
the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America
said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said,
"Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I
could have made a difference." When you are truly transformed into a
warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there.
You want to be able to make a difference.

There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but
he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able
to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the
population.
There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals
convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious,
predatory crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast
majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: slumped
walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like
big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able
to protect itself.

Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be
genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most
people can choose which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans
are choosing to become sheepdogs.

Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was
honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the
man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an
operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When he learned of the other
three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd dropped his phone
and uttered the words, "Let's roll," which authorities believe was a signal to
the other passengers to confront the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a
transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business
people and parents. -- from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves,
ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible
evil of evil men. - Edmund Burke






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This sums up what we, as LEO, soldiers, and men feel about what we do, at least it does for me.
 
I assume that this is the same LTC(RET) Dave Grossman, RANGER, Ph.D.,author of "On Killing" who advocated in his book that there should be limits placed upon free speech and access to firearms?

:confused:
 
I've heard LTC Dave Grossman give this speech twice. I don't see where the JBT comment comes in though.
 
I truly and honestly appreciate your calling as a sheepdog and the seriousness with which you undertake your solemn commitment.

Unfortunately, on the several occasions when the foetid breath of the slavering wolf fogged up my wool, there wasn't a sheepdog in sight. Please pardon me if I continue to feel the need to keep this set of fangs in my own pocket. :(
 
Sheepdogs, or increasingly pitbulls with no compunction about ripping the throats out of the wolves they're supposedly protecting?
 
On Killing is the only psychology book that I've read and understood. OK, I'm no psycho-babble genius and got a "D" while struggling through my only class (it just didn't make sense to my simple brain and it was the very last pyschology class I ever took). However, On Killing completely fascinated me as it explained many incidents that I've read about on soldiers in combat.

That said, I don't recall Col. Grossman calling for the limitation of free speech or limits on firearms. Can someone draw my attention to that page in the book?
 
lillysdad,

..as long as its legal.

Ah, there's the rub.

There's a whole breed of sheepdogs out there that are bred specifically to ensure that the sheep are kept vulnerable by depriving them of fangs of their own. This makes some sheep mad, and makes them distrust and fear sheepdogs, since they can't tell the good ones from the bad. :(
 
On those sheepdogs who want us disarmed, most of those are the politically appointed ones or ones aspiring to political power. The average badge wearer on the streets is pro-gun & pro-self defense. Their chiefs/sheriffs and their associations can be antis though. :mad:
 
That was about the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.

Just one excerpt:
When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT
teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel
those clinging, sobbing kids off of them.

The SWAT-cowards didn't go in until it was very much too late, and then marched the school kids out with their hands on their heads (officer safety, don't ya know?)

What was that parable about one armed sheep denying enforcement of the vote?

My guess is that there are few sheep at THR.

Rick
 
4V50 Gary,

There are a lot of folks in a lot of states who wish that were true, but aren't willing to bet their freedom on the charity of the local beat cop, and so are left defenseless. Either that or they break the law and wind up far up a creek if caught, since apparently plenty of street cops in those places aren't as pro-gun as we keep hearing. :(
 
Tamara, some are, some aren't and I admit having met antis myself. The majority I've met are pro-gun and want the evil black rifles as much as we do. I suppose it's like any other occupation. General rule of thumb for major metropolitan areas is the higher the rank, the greater the likelihood of being anti. BTW, I concur with you that each person should be responsible for their safety. We should return to the 19th century concept that the police are here to assist you defend yourself and that the primary person responsible is you.

AZRickD- regarding Colombine, that caused a whole new thinking in LE circles and virtually everyone is instructed in First Responder. In the pre-Colombine Days, the doctrine was that the first cops on the scene secure the perimeter and then wait for the SWAT team to go in. Nowadays we know that time doesn't stand still for SWAT and the first responders form themselves into a team and go in w/intent to neutralize the threat. Training includes working with folks from other agencies too and going in with as few as two officers (but the more the better).

There was situation in a flea bag resident hotel in the Tenderloin and about a dozen rolled. They were about to storm upstairs w/everyman for himself when a Sergeant pulled everyone back, organized them into a team (took less than 1 minute) and then progressively swept the building until they isolated the hostage. Luckily Mr. Shooter included himself as a victim and no one else was killed.
 
Gary-

I found Grossman's book to be a very interesting read. So much so that it is only one of two books that I've read cover-to-cover while sitting in a Barnes & Noble.

Unfortunately that was several years ago, and I can't give a page and paragraph citation, and I don't have a copy of the book handy.

However, iirc, towards the end of the book he quotes movie reviewer Michael Medved who has apparently come out in support of regulating violence in movies. While Grossman doesn't come right out and advocate state-based censorship, it seemed rather obvious to me that he certainly wouldn't have any major qualms about it.

He was even more unkind to the videogame industry, blaming video games for real life violence and leading one to draw the conclusion that games like DOOM and other FPS'ers should be regulated. The other thing that bugged me about his book was that it was really quite evident that he had practically zero firsthand experience with any of the videogames he was talking about.

Also, towards the end of the book I distinctly remember a one sentence blurb wherein he advocates putting stricter controls on gun availability.

He's not a screeching grabber, but he's certainly no friend of the first or second amendments.
 
The 'sheepdogs' in America should be every American capable of providing for his/her own defense or the defense of others. Some may be faster or stronger or have bigger fangs, some may be civil servants and have better tools and coordination with other sheepdogs at their disposal, but all Americans who are not truly helpless are supposed to be the sheepdogs, not the sheep.
 
When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT
teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them.
The SWAT-cowards didn't go in until it was very much too late
Spoken like a Monday morning quarterback that doesn't know anything about how to handle a situation like that. :rolleyes:

They weren't cowards, they were trying to figure out how to take care of the situation without getting more innocent people killed. Just running and gunning in that situation could have cost MANY more lives, but then you would be criticizing their reckless disregard for safety. :mad:
 
The SWAT-cowards didn't go in until it was very much too late

Well I'm sure if there had been some 'drugs' in the school, and it was 2AM and subjects were asleep they would have gone in like gangbusters ;)
 
They went in too late and hid behind a firetruck.

Since you went to all the effort to call me a "Monday morning quarterback" I'll call you a ****** who can't understand the gist of my post. The writer said that the SWATies went in when the "school was under attack." They came in a little bit later than that, when they did no good and kept others from going in as well.

Their dogmatic tactics were not unlike the stewardesses, er, Flight Attendants who clung to the notion that the 9/11 hijackers should be allowed to take the plane and land it somewherez. The same stewardesses, er, Flight Attendants whose union fought against arming pilots.

These SWATies and their commanders are the same members of the hero class, er, Sheep Dogs, who think that peons shouldn't be armed and
school is no place for regular people with guns.

Try to stay on topic.

Rick
 
Glad you liked that :)

Let me restate what i meant to say, sans the caustic sarcasm.

I think, if you want to wear the shiny black ninja uniform, and play with all the cool toys, you need accept the fact that you might have to risk your life
in the line of DUTY. Like the brave firefighters at the WTC.

Its pretty damn easy to kick someone's door in at 2am, when you know you have the element of surprise, and superior firepower. And maybe even the correct address on the warrant that you got from some scumbag CI ;)

What's (apparently in this situation) not so easy is to go into harms way when you KNOW people are being killed and you have to put your own ass on the line.
They sat outside and twiddled their thumbs for hours without doing thing. Cowardly.

Of course, what would I know, I was living in that area at the time, had contacts
in the Jeffco DA's office, who thought SWAT screwed the pooch. I guess that's 'armchair quarterbacking' in your book.

Anyway, I hope you get em, before they flush 'the dope'.
 
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