NOMADCHRIS
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would the glock 23 be a good gun for my wife i want to get her a pistol for christmas
glock 23 for ladys?
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bestseller92
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That depends on a lot of different factors...her hand size, what she likes to shoot, whether she shoots the 23 well, whether she likes the feel of it, etc.
REAPER4206969
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It's standard FBI issue.
The female agents must not have a problem.
The female agents must not have a problem.
If she's not a big shooter, or doesn't like recoil much, I'd go with a 19, but if she likes a little bark, go for the 23. Like Reaper said it's FBI issue, and lots of different police departments rock them, so it can't be that different for women, but someone who doesn't like recoil might not like it much.
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One size fits all - not!
She needs a gun that fits her hand in a caliber she can control. Forget what you like. She will need to handle and shoot them for herself but will probably eliminate all the double stacks including those with interchangeable back straps. Don't let magazine capacity dictate choice. A gun is a fair size investment and you want her to be happy rather than disappointed.
FWIW the GLOCK 23 is quite snappy and very susceptible to malfunctions with slightest amount of limp-wristing. We use the GLOCK 23 at the LETC where I teach and anyone with a hand size smaller than a man's large glove ends up rotating the hand toward the trigger thereby compromising a strong grip. The recoil is therefore absorbed by the thumb's knuckle which will become sore with much shooting. Many small statured struggle to just pass.
Have her align the gun with her forearm and check trigger reach. For a single action you need enough trigger finger to reach the center of the pad of the first joint. For a traditional double action you need enough trigger finger to reach the outside edge of the trigger with the crease of the first joint (power crease) in order to have enough leverage to pull it.If it don't honestly fit move on to something else.
As a suggestion, handle/shoot a Kahr K-9. It is a single stack all steel 9mm and has surprisingly soft recoil, is small and light enough to carry well but still shoots well.
Now, if after shooting a couple of boxes of ammo in a double stack .40 she is doing well with it, go for it.
Best wishes to both for a Merry Christmas and lots of fun shooting in the New Year!
She needs a gun that fits her hand in a caliber she can control. Forget what you like. She will need to handle and shoot them for herself but will probably eliminate all the double stacks including those with interchangeable back straps. Don't let magazine capacity dictate choice. A gun is a fair size investment and you want her to be happy rather than disappointed.
FWIW the GLOCK 23 is quite snappy and very susceptible to malfunctions with slightest amount of limp-wristing. We use the GLOCK 23 at the LETC where I teach and anyone with a hand size smaller than a man's large glove ends up rotating the hand toward the trigger thereby compromising a strong grip. The recoil is therefore absorbed by the thumb's knuckle which will become sore with much shooting. Many small statured struggle to just pass.
Have her align the gun with her forearm and check trigger reach. For a single action you need enough trigger finger to reach the center of the pad of the first joint. For a traditional double action you need enough trigger finger to reach the outside edge of the trigger with the crease of the first joint (power crease) in order to have enough leverage to pull it.If it don't honestly fit move on to something else.
As a suggestion, handle/shoot a Kahr K-9. It is a single stack all steel 9mm and has surprisingly soft recoil, is small and light enough to carry well but still shoots well.
Now, if after shooting a couple of boxes of ammo in a double stack .40 she is doing well with it, go for it.
Best wishes to both for a Merry Christmas and lots of fun shooting in the New Year!
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No. No way.
I'm not recoil senseitive. An I'm a big guy with long hands. Hanging on to a Glock 23 is no problem and I shoot it as well as a 19. The Glock 35 shoots butter smooth for me, much better. I use the 23 for my primary CCW.
But the 23's recoil is harsh to me. And the trigger bites back during recoil.
The Glock 19 or 17 is going to be a far better choice. The Kahr 9mm's are known to be soft shooting despite thier small size. I know a few Women that really like thier Kahr 9mm.
The Glock 23 is fun because it gets the job done very well, shoots quickly, draws quickly, and it's grunt adds some challenge. I has an excellent selection of sights available. But it's recoil is not fun at all. If she's an experienced shooter looking for a challenging IDPA gun, this is it.
I'll second that the Kahr K9 is a better choice.
I'm not recoil senseitive. An I'm a big guy with long hands. Hanging on to a Glock 23 is no problem and I shoot it as well as a 19. The Glock 35 shoots butter smooth for me, much better. I use the 23 for my primary CCW.
But the 23's recoil is harsh to me. And the trigger bites back during recoil.
The Glock 19 or 17 is going to be a far better choice. The Kahr 9mm's are known to be soft shooting despite thier small size. I know a few Women that really like thier Kahr 9mm.
The Glock 23 is fun because it gets the job done very well, shoots quickly, draws quickly, and it's grunt adds some challenge. I has an excellent selection of sights available. But it's recoil is not fun at all. If she's an experienced shooter looking for a challenging IDPA gun, this is it.
I'll second that the Kahr K9 is a better choice.
Like the others said
It is a personal preference thing. She might shoot it well, or she may not. My daughter loves shooting my 1911's but does not like my Glock 23's. She even likes, no loves, her LCP which apparently kicks too much for some big guys on this forum.
My suggestion would be to get her to the range with as many guns as possible including the G23. Find out which she like best and buy it for her. As soon as my daughter gets her permit, in June, I will let her pick out one of my 1911's if she likes. The other thing to remember is, while she may enjoy shooting a full sized gun, she may not carry a full sized gun. This why I bought a second LCP once my daughter said she liked it.
It is a personal preference thing. She might shoot it well, or she may not. My daughter loves shooting my 1911's but does not like my Glock 23's. She even likes, no loves, her LCP which apparently kicks too much for some big guys on this forum.
My suggestion would be to get her to the range with as many guns as possible including the G23. Find out which she like best and buy it for her. As soon as my daughter gets her permit, in June, I will let her pick out one of my 1911's if she likes. The other thing to remember is, while she may enjoy shooting a full sized gun, she may not carry a full sized gun. This why I bought a second LCP once my daughter said she liked it.here is a couple of Pennines:
The .40 has devastating terminal effects (relativity speaking of course) but, without getting into a calibre war here, I don't think it does anything that much better than a good 9mm+p round to matter
I don't like the way the .40 recoil feels, and that's what I ascertain by shooting it out of my G20 with a conversion barrel, I would think it would be quite unpleasant in a compact frame.
When it comes to compact designs, the 19/23 have almost a perfect frame size IMO,
however, I would much prefer the more-pleasant-to-shoot 9mm to the .40
The .40 has devastating terminal effects (relativity speaking of course) but, without getting into a calibre war here, I don't think it does anything that much better than a good 9mm+p round to matter
I don't like the way the .40 recoil feels, and that's what I ascertain by shooting it out of my G20 with a conversion barrel, I would think it would be quite unpleasant in a compact frame.
When it comes to compact designs, the 19/23 have almost a perfect frame size IMO,
however, I would much prefer the more-pleasant-to-shoot 9mm to the .40
Jonah71
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Now that's a good idea. It may not be the most enjoyable gun I have, but it's the one I carry daily. I trust in more than any of my handguns after several hundred rounds. Except on Sundays. The Senior Pastor prefers that I carry the G 26 or S&W Mod 36 in church. Concealed of course.If you don't already own a G23, buy one. If she likes it give it to her. If not, you just got yourself one of the best hanguns made. It is a win win in my opinion.
NOMADCHRIS
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Thanx everyone i'll take her to the and try some different guns out i dont want to get her a 9mm because i've seen on two different occasion's some one getting shot with a 9mm "mulitiple rounds to the chest" and still being able to turn around and squeeze off a couple of rounds
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It's a handgun. Not rifle. I've seen the same stories with .40s&w & .45acp Shot placement is key. If you don't hit the central nervous system odds are it's not going to immediately incapacitate the target. If you don't knock out the central nervous system, and he still has the will to keep fighting, he will have the ability to do so.
That being said, I shoot .40s&w and love it. But I wouldn't use this argument to dismiss 9mm. Especially if the recoil of .40 ends up being a deterrent to her practicing and training with her carry weapon.
rcmodel
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I would say if your wife is harder then Woodpecker lips, and shoots a lot of other large caliber handguns, she might love a Glock 23.
Otherwise, probably not so much.
My two adult sons will hardly touch my Glock 23, not due to recoil, but the fierce muzzle blast.
They will both shoot my 1911 45's all day, or until I stop supplying the free ammo.
But about one 13-round mag is all they want of the Glock 23.
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Otherwise, probably not so much.
My two adult sons will hardly touch my Glock 23, not due to recoil, but the fierce muzzle blast.
They will both shoot my 1911 45's all day, or until I stop supplying the free ammo.
But about one 13-round mag is all they want of the Glock 23.
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I was talking yesterday to a friend of the female persuasion who had shot a .40 Glock, most likely either a G22 or G23, at some sort of PD Ladies' Day and now wants one of her own. (Her husband wants a .45, most likely an XD.) I think they would both be better off with 9mms but I am not going to go against their personal preference and even limited experience.
That is the key. A gun is a personal thing and should not be a surprise present.
That is the key. A gun is a personal thing and should not be a surprise present.
Glock 23 and all other glocks are reserved only for kydex style belt holsters, glocks and all other striker fire pistols are to prone to accidental discharge by anything simply catching the trigger on something.
For a woman your better off with a single stack DA only pistol, like a ruger lc9 or a kahr. Both of these style of guns can be easily shot, by a womans hand and safely carried in a purse or even a pants pocket.
For a woman your better off with a single stack DA only pistol, like a ruger lc9 or a kahr. Both of these style of guns can be easily shot, by a womans hand and safely carried in a purse or even a pants pocket.
XR1200, failing.
They aren't prone to going off unless the user depresses the trigger. Personally I just keep my holsters out of the trigger guard when reholstering (which you should be doing anyway) and second, somebody using a holster long after it should have been replaced isn't a good example of what the gun is likely to do. I love a thin Kydex IWB for them, but other people have been rocking leather for decades and it works for them.
They aren't prone to going off unless the user depresses the trigger. Personally I just keep my holsters out of the trigger guard when reholstering (which you should be doing anyway) and second, somebody using a holster long after it should have been replaced isn't a good example of what the gun is likely to do. I love a thin Kydex IWB for them, but other people have been rocking leather for decades and it works for them.
I'm not talking about the idiot with the worn out holster.
What I am talking about is the ability of the glock or any other striker fired auto pistol with a trigger pull similar to a glock.
1. the guns can not be safely carried in a pants pocket.
2. a woman can not carry it open in a purse.
3. Anything that can catch or snag on a glocks trigger will possibly make in discharge, (Keys, Pens, Combs etc.)
4. Even leaving a glock fully loaded and cocked on a bedside table or bedside drawer is a bad thing, simply grabbing or handling the glock in the dark room or half a sleep, can make it go off.
5. I've owned a glock 23 for about 6 months and have experimented with handling it and making it dischage while not loaded and the gun will easily discharge, by simply looking for the gun by your side on the couch with the weight of a loaded mag, and making the gun tip and catching the trigger.
6. Carrying a fully cocked and loaded glock, is like carrying a cocked 1911 with the grip safety removed and the thumb safety off, all you have to do is touch the the trigger improperly and its going to discharge. This is why you see most PD's only allowing glocks for use with swat teams and making rules that only sa/da autos are used for duty use. I know there are exceptions to this rule like the NYPD.
7. For all these reasons fully loaded and cocked glocks should only be carried and stored in an item that restricts accidental access to the trigger, during handling.
8. Overall your better off and a safer to use a SA/DA or DA only semi auto for CCW or personal defense.
What I am talking about is the ability of the glock or any other striker fired auto pistol with a trigger pull similar to a glock.
1. the guns can not be safely carried in a pants pocket.
2. a woman can not carry it open in a purse.
3. Anything that can catch or snag on a glocks trigger will possibly make in discharge, (Keys, Pens, Combs etc.)
4. Even leaving a glock fully loaded and cocked on a bedside table or bedside drawer is a bad thing, simply grabbing or handling the glock in the dark room or half a sleep, can make it go off.
5. I've owned a glock 23 for about 6 months and have experimented with handling it and making it dischage while not loaded and the gun will easily discharge, by simply looking for the gun by your side on the couch with the weight of a loaded mag, and making the gun tip and catching the trigger.
6. Carrying a fully cocked and loaded glock, is like carrying a cocked 1911 with the grip safety removed and the thumb safety off, all you have to do is touch the the trigger improperly and its going to discharge. This is why you see most PD's only allowing glocks for use with swat teams and making rules that only sa/da autos are used for duty use. I know there are exceptions to this rule like the NYPD.
7. For all these reasons fully loaded and cocked glocks should only be carried and stored in an item that restricts accidental access to the trigger, during handling.
8. Overall your better off and a safer to use a SA/DA or DA only semi auto for CCW or personal defense.
holy crap! :banghead:
If you carry any gun in your pocket/purse without a holster you are asking for trouble, if you carry any gun in the same vicinity as keys, pens or combs you are a flat out dumb-ass!
I'm not going to even bother with the other incorrect statements
If you carry any gun in your pocket/purse without a holster you are asking for trouble, if you carry any gun in the same vicinity as keys, pens or combs you are a flat out dumb-ass!
I'm not going to even bother with the other incorrect statements
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I'm getting the feeling that I was just trolled hard.
Look at every one of your replies, it all comes down to the fact that a glock must be carried in a safe holster, preferably kydex or quality leather etc.
When choosing a gun for ccw use , you need to make a choice that will allow you to carry the gun in any possible method, nothing is worse than a gun that you have to leave home , when it may be needed.
The PD where I live only allows glocks for tacticle teams and swat use, they only allow the SIG sa/da pistols for duty use, a lot of other pd's follow this same policy.
When choosing a gun for ccw use , you need to make a choice that will allow you to carry the gun in any possible method, nothing is worse than a gun that you have to leave home , when it may be needed.
The PD where I live only allows glocks for tacticle teams and swat use, they only allow the SIG sa/da pistols for duty use, a lot of other pd's follow this same policy.
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:banghead: Or just use a holster. You shouldn't be carrying any gun(manual safety or not) in your waistband, loose in your pocket, or loose in a purse/bag. The gun needs to be secure, safe, and in the position you need it to be at all times.
Ever hear of a pocket carry designed 380, most ppl carry these guns simply in their plain pants pocket or with a simple inside pocket holster liner.
Belt or waist band holsters are often to hard to conceal properly and most of us don't walk around with 3xxxl oversize shirts on or jackets year round.
So pocket carry is a real reality for most of us, why do you think the pocket 380's are so popular.
Belt or waist band holsters are often to hard to conceal properly and most of us don't walk around with 3xxxl oversize shirts on or jackets year round.
So pocket carry is a real reality for most of us, why do you think the pocket 380's are so popular.
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