Glock Accuracy Claim

[Desertscout]

Even so, it was line up and then lift, cuz you can't see the target when you are holding 2-3ft above the target.

If you can't see the target at loang distances, you're not using the correct sight picture. Instead of holding over the target, you should be holding the FS on the target as usual but with more of it showing above the RS.

And BTW, if you're holding 2-3' above the target at 100 yards, you're not likely to hit what you're aiming at. With any of my Glock .40's, about 9-10" is all the extra elevation needed at 100 yards. Even a .45 doesn't need 2-3' at that range.

 

[scurtis_34471]

Some of those big .460 and .500 revolvers are supposed to be accurate to 150 yards with a scope, but those things are insanely powerful and have really long barrels.

 

[LeonCarr]

A LEO shooting 4 inch groups at 100 yards with a Glock 19C? I don't recall him mentioning how many shots were in the group .

In my experience most service type semi-autos (4" barrel or longer) and most service type revolvers (4" barrel or longer), with practice and a load it likes, will shoot five shot groups inside a paper plate (9 1/2 inches or less) at 100 yards. In my experience 4 inch groups at 100 yards are possible with magnum revolvers, and the various long barreled single shot handguns can do close to or better than an inch at 100 yards in some cases, but the above are usually accomplished with a seasoned shooter, good quality factory ammo or handloads, and shooting off of sandbags or prone.

I know, Bob Munden can pop a balloon at 200 yards with a snub nose .38 revolver and all that stuff, but I will almost guarantee that he practices that shot everyday for several days before the cameras start rolling.

Ask the LEO to go shooting with you at your local 100 yard range, and see if he can do it. He will either show up and do it, or make excuses why he can't go with you. Offering a trip to the range usually shuts up the "non-hackers".

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

 

[kbheiner7]

I can't do that from a rest with my uber-accurate 1911, I can pretty much gaurantee nobody can do that with a Glock.

 

[possum]

I was talking to local LEO today who suggested that he could routinely hit four inch groups at 100 yds. with his Glock 19 w/ compensted barrel.

heck he must be x Delta or something, probally learned how to do that as a "ranger in the air force"!

sorry had to take that from another thread!

I would definetly take him out to the range, and see if he can even hit a target out that far with a pistol first and then, you can go from there!

 

[islandphish]

desertscout, thanks for the advice on the sight picture. I will try that when I shoot at 100yds again. fwiw, I guessed it was 2-3ft, I was 100yds away and just raising higher when I saw puffs of dirt on the ground. Maybe it was just 1-2ft.

 

[Plink]

I was talking to local LEO today who suggested that he could routinely hit four inch groups at 100 yds. with his Glock 19 w/ compensted barrel.

I have a State Trooper friend who makes similar claims about his shooting ability. I've been shooting with him a number of times and have never seen anything even close to his boasts.

Glocks are fairly accurate for their design, considering that they're built to loose tolerances deliberately to increase reliability, like most duty sidearms. If they were that accurate out of the box, you'd see them winning all over the competition field, and they don't.

 

[fedlaw]

Perhaps he simply added an extra apostrophe to the group size or an extra zero to the distance? Maybe both?

 

[Skpotamus]

Glocks seem to be winning a good number of the competitions in my neck of the woods. Especially in the stock divisions.

Comparing a $500 stock gun to a $2000 customized 1911 isn't really fair though.

I remember Chuck Taylor throwing his Gen 1 glock 17 into a ransom rest and producing a sub 1" group at 25 yards with Hydrashocks. Most groups were over one inch though. The gun/ammo combo could very well be capable of producing that group size, but the shooter would have to be a LOT better than anyone I've ever seen shoot.

I seem to remember an interview with Rob Leatham saying that doens't break under a 2" group at 25 yards very often. I could be wrong though.

 

[M2 Carbine]

I've heard a number of far out claims over the years, from people like the subject LEO, but I don't recall ANYONE ever backing them up.

 

[bluto]

Great article on Glock accuracy with lots of pics @ 25 yards from a ransom rest using stock vs match vs customized barrels. Nothing like sub 1" groups with any barrel but lots of good test data on probable ACTUAL CONSISTANT accuracy capability from both stock and modded Glocks.

http://www.montac.com/glock/bullet jump/bulletjump_1.htm

It gives more of a real world baseline for Glock capability and makes the consistant claim of 4" @100 yards offhand just so much hogwash.

 

[jeff-10]

With Glock sights 4 inches at 100 yards would be sheer luck.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

Perhaps he simply added an extra apostrophe to the group size or an extra zero to the distance? Maybe both?

Genius!!!

We finally figured out the problem, the LEO wasn't BS'ing, he just had his figures wrong!

 

[ChuckB]

Yeah, ol' fedlaw seems to get to the nub of an issue!

Chuck, who would pick fedlaw to back him up when the SHTF.