Gun Range Oh No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

All of the organized ranges I go to require eyes and ears on at all times. And the unorganized shooting area that I go to, I keep my ears in when I see someone else about to shoot. I don't ask them to change their actions around me and I don't do the same around them. They're free to shoot when they want and it's on me to keep my protection in. And I'm free to shoot when I want and it's on them to keep their protection in.

 

[RH822]

I am very thankful to have my own backyard range, and there is only one Jerk allowed on MY range...

 

[Katana8869]

You're there to shoot. If they want to chat, go somewwhere else and do it.

+1. If the range is hot, my range requires eye and ear protection to be worn. If I am at the bench, and the line is hot, I'm sending rounds into the target and I'm not asking a bunch of chit-chatters permision to do it.

Quiet chit chat belongs in the clubhouse, not the firing line.

 

[M203Sniper]

Your gun v Their ears = You win.



They should keep PPE on or leave the firing line. I have muffs with microphones so I can do both I just get in trouble for talking with my hands - one of the best features for Italians.

 

[jason10mm]

Hmm, most of these problems are from poor range design, particularly brass flying everywhere. No reason not to have dividers, IMHO.

Back when I shot at a truely "open" range with my CETME I would bring along a little net to catch the brass. The CETME, much like the HK G3, HURLS brass with a velocity matching a Tiger Woods golf ball! It was not strange to see brass laying 5 or 6 benches over. So for courtesy's sake, I had the net.

But I agree that when a guy shows up to a range and you are BSing with your friends near the line, it is a not unreasonable assumption that the new guy is gonna SHOOT. So wear ears. Heck, with the electronic ears out there now for cheap, there is almost no reason to not have ears on the moment you step out of the car.

BTW, one of those Ars with the AK brake is one of the best ways to enforce ear pro. Other than a .50BMG

 

[Aguila Blanca]

You have to be a people person. Talk a bit and shoot a bit. Let them know that you are going to shoot. If you are one of those quite ones who never talks then acknowledge em with a nod and point to your ears as you set up. Say fire in the hole or range hot. Shoot away. If you say in standoffish terms I don't feel like talking, just here to shoot. You are sure to piss em off. Alot of people relat shooting at the range to socializing. Recognizing that makes you better off as a people person and makes you better off in the long run.
We are ambassadors.

You're an ambassador. I'm a shooter. Every range I have ever shot at has it prominently posted that eye and ear protection is required on the firing line. Some of them have it posted back at the gate, by the parking lot. The range is hot unless it is cold, and when the range is hot there is no need to warn people that you're about to shoot. That's what happens at shooting ranges -- people shoot gun things, that make loud noises.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

sass guys are pretty cool from all the ones i met. yea, he should have been on the other side of you, but thats no reason to shower someone with potentialy dangerous hot brass. the reason he came to "your" side of the range is because SASS is run in stages, so there is no place for him to safely work on his gun with the muzzle pointing downrange (im assuming there was a jammed cartrige) without getting in the way of the next shooter. bad form ol' boy.

Ummmm ...

In most places, if he had a jammed cartridge he should NEVER have been allowed to leave the range he was on when it jammed before the jam had been cleared. You just don't go wandering around with a stuck and potentially defective round in your gun.

 

[Justin]

Seems to me that announcing that you're going hot is just basic common courtesy.

 

[Farnorthdan]

bad form. or we may have to say you "dont play well with others."


sass guys are pretty cool from all the ones i met. yea, he should have been on the other side of you, but thats no reason to shower someone with potentialy dangerous hot brass. the reason he came to "your" side of the range is because SASS is run in stages, so there is no place for him to safely work on his gun with the muzzle pointing downrange (im assuming there was a jammed cartrige) without getting in the way of the next shooter. bad form ol' boy.
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That is your opinion, my opinion is that its BAD form to come over to my range where I have myself and family to futs around with you weapon than has some sort of problem and expose my family to a potential ND....thank you very much......

 

[Rachen]

Animosity between fellow shooters is certainly something we don't need and must not have at all.

 

[Walkalong]

We need a little cheese with all this wine.

Be polite. Announce you are going to shoot in some way. They will get the message that you want to shoot and will adapt(muffs/move/whatever), probably without getting mad about it. Just be nice, then if they are not, continue to be nice anyway.

 

[jerkface11]

Showing up at a shooting range with a gun and making sure the range is hot isn't an indication that you're going to start shooting?

 

[FCFC]

Oh, drat. Where the heck is that Heinlein blurb when you need it...

 

[Old Grump]

Quote:
They didn't appreciate my temper tantrum ..., and I lost it.

"Losing it" is not the best response in situation where there are lot of weapons - that's only my opinion.

Mike

I have 30 years on those guys and I'm not done getting older. I will NOT tolerate people handling weapons while I am down range or anybody else.

I booted an Army MP Captain off the range at White Sands because he was handling a 38 revolver while I had men down range checking their targets. He refused to put the gun down and reminded me I was an E-6 and he was a Captain. I reminded him I could shut the range down and he stormed off, I got a standing ovation from the MP's and a few days later he was transferred to Fort Bliss. I had the same conversation with an Air Force Colonel, he complained to the General and was told to shut his trap and quit whining. I booted the CO of my unit off the range because he was holding a can of beer in his hand and nobody believed I could do that but he realized I was right and never made an issue of it.

I don't mess around with safety when somebody can disrupt my watertight integrity or kill me or kill somebody else. I don't care who he is and I don't care how many guns he has or how many people he has with him. I have a sense of humor but not when a barrel is pointed at me and some nimrod has his hands near the trigger. The 3 of them were NOT members of the club and were a big part of the reason locked gates were installed. That and some bone head shot up a storage shed right next to the clubhouse when no members were present.

 

[CAPTAIN MIKE]

The Range is HOT

It is, in my view, common courtesy and a positive hearing safety outlook to announce loudly "The Range is HOT". That way, everyone is hearing distance knows that firearms are about to be discharged and they need to get their eyes & ears on, as required by the range. Simple, courteous and easy-to-remember.

 

[jonmerritt]

If I am standing in the bay and yacking (unlikely), And you come in to start shooting, I will be getting out of your way, so you can enjoy the range too.

 

[woolfam]

So...

Now that we have this whole "when to go out of your way to be nice" / "when to demand your rights" / "when to use a period" thing worked out...

Can someone explain what a sub gun guy is?

I'm worried I might be one and not even know it.

 

[Lonestar49]

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Attitude be-gets attitude.. especially in an armed environment.

So, if you're shooting at the Ok Corral Gun Range, then I'd use some smarter, less blunt, communications (as mentioned above by others) or one could put himself in the position of stating:

~ Hold-it !! That's not what I want !!" ~ (you could wind up dead-right) with the wrong group.

Good luck,


Ls

 

[scrat]

I agree your there to shoot not to talk. id love to find a range like that. im yep an a** **le. so i admit it. i would wait until i hear them talk then fire a round. then wait until i hear a voice then fire. Totally agree on the range on the line you wear hearing and eye protection. Talking is for areas away from the range. Man i wish i was there.

 

[scrat]

hahaha i can see it now. Handloader and i about 10 feet apart i would wait about 10 seconds after he fires then fire. Then he would wait then fire. hahahahahahahaha

 

[vzenmn]

The solution to your problem is a Ruger Blackhawk in 30 Carbine. A couple weeks ago I ran into such a beast in the stall to the left of me at an indoor range. I was wearing plugs and muffs but I still found myself moving three stalls to the right before the guy could reload.

I have got to get me on of those!

 

[GlowinPontiac]

The range I shoot at requires that you have Ear and Eye protection on any time you are on the firing line. if you want to sit and chat either talk louder or leave the firing line.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

Do you really think their request was that unreasonable?

I think it was. If you're there to talk, talk with your muffs on. Not everybody knows you or even wants to join your conversation, but they've paid their money to shoot. Expect to hear loud noises. Don't expect people to warn you of every shot. I fired my FAL once on a hot range when the guy next to me was unprepared. I didn't know that, but oh well. He knew it was his fault, though. He looked at me while adjusting his ears and mouthed that hurts, but he smiled.

 

[PT140]

RH 822 I hope you were talking about yourself when you said there was only one jerk allowed on YOUR range...cuz I know you weren't talking about me.

 

[deanf]

Has any one out there had this problem?

The run-on sentence and poor grammar problem? No.