WestKentucky
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Shotgun, carbines, and sub gun version of the carbines. Nothing even close to the worn out AR market or AK craze. Something akin to the S&W folding carbine.
It is obvious the influence the Glock handguns have had on the pistol market. They are timeless, plain, work every dang time designs.
Well with their success came a lot of competitors. S&W, Springfield, Sig, HK, and countless others all have polymer pistols that are as simple, as reliable, etc. In several cases, for even less money. And competition like this has to be eating into their market share.
So let's put you in the CEO seat. What would you do to get Glock back on top? I know there were rumors of a Glock AR pattern rifle back in the day, but maybe that was just wishful thinking.
So what should Glock do? A complete redesign? Expand their company into making long guns, revolvers, ray guns? I would say make a line of "retro" guns, but they really haven't changed in their lifetime besides size and grip shape. Focus on commercial sales, the market they once had with most police and federal agents carrying them?
Or should they just get used to being the Model T of polymer guns?
Thoughts?
I think that was their plan with the 43 as far as size.How about something the size and capacity of a p365,
43X & 48 have been for quite some time.with cuts for red dots,
Huh? You think Glocks bore axis is too high?and a very low bore axis like an Alien or a Rock Island 5.0,
It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian.and a rotating barrel like an M&P 5.7 or Beretta Storm, so that the rotating barrel, good trigger, and low bore combine for quick follow up shots?
I believe I read somewhere that Ruger outsells just about every other firearms manufacturers COMBINED annually.
Somebody correct me if I am off.
I think that was their plan with the 43 as far as size.
To have the 10 round mag for the 43, Glock would have had to depart from their metal lined polymer mags and they aren't keen on doing that.
I think that was their plan with the 43 as far as size.
To have the 10 round mag for the 43, Glock would have had to depart from their metal lined polymer mags and they aren't keen on doing that.
43X & 48 have been for quite some time.
Huh? You think Glocks bore axis is too high?
I've never heard that complaint before.
https://www.guntweaks.com/pistol-bore-axis-comparison-what-is-low-bore-axis.html
It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian.
I have pistols with rotating barrels and they aren't the answer to "quick follow up shots".
Seems like Glock as a company is still pretty successful, but it's true that the clone makers are taking some of their market share. I haven't shot one but if I was in the market for a new Glock today, I'd heavily consider a Shadow Systems pistol. It seems like for a few bucks more, they are a more refined, shootable custom Glock. I have a G17 and I even carry it once in a while even though it's too big to carry comfortably when I sit down or drive but I like it. Bone stock, trigger is mush and it's ugly. But it's a great design, it's reliable and I have had it for years and most importantly, I shoot it well. I also carry a Shield Plus PC and a Ruger Max 9 but I am starting to realize the more that I train and drill that subcompacts kind of suck for smoothly drawing, presenting and quickly getting a good grip, plus they are much more difficult to shoot accurately. I have medium sized hands with long fingers and I have to do some pretty weird contortions to get a good grip with either gun as they are so small.
You carry a subcompact for comfort but for being the best, fastest, smoothest and most accurate shooting, they are terrible. My next pistol may be a G19 or a Shadow Systems MR920 if my dumb state ever loses the handgun Roster or I move to America. I'm beginning to see the wisdom of carrying a mid sized gun rather than a sub-compact. Other than comfort, the subcompacts are really kind of handicapping your effectiveness.
I have Glocks that have virtually no barrel jump.Glock may have a low bore axis, but not as low as an Alien or an RIA 5.0. The reviews I have seen on these pistols is that there is not much barrel jump.
Bing? Please.Also, the purpose of a rotating barrel is often to reduce felt recoil. See the attached Bing Search.
And?The general theory these days is to get as many shots as quickly on target as possible, correct?
I didn't say rotating barrels and low bore axis do not work....those may be nice in taming recoil for those who have difficulty. And where are you getting the idea Glocks recoil more than other designs? Thats odd.So again, a small pistol that is comfortable to shoot and conceal, but has a large capacity, is easy and safe to maintain, has options for optics, and reduces recoil without using a compensator. If somebody is close and fighting me for a pistol I do not like the idea of the compensator blasting gas in my face. If rotating barrels and low bore axis do not work, fine, but Glock has been making the same gun since the 1980's, and if they can come up with a new system that reduces recoil, it might be welcome.
Because the two models have different internals. Also if one anlready owns an G19, then his G47 can be broken down and converted like a G19X/G45, while the 17 can not. More configurations out of one gun with the G47 and an G19 gen5 combined. Also the G47 has compatibility with G19 Gen 5 internal parts.Get their model numbers under control! Why have a G17 and a G47 when both are standard-size 9mm guns?
Because the two models are different length guns. The 17L is the longest and really only suited for competition long range pistol shooting or handgun hunting small ga,e and predators. Wheras the G34 can be and is carried as a duty pistol or competition gun for some. The 17L would be way too long and impractical to carry as a duty pistol.Why have a G17L and a G34?
Too late to change it all by now. Just have the model numbers memorized like the rest of us Glock FANATICS do and it becomes second nature to immediately identify who’s who in the (Glock) zoo.And, if we're going to do some consolidation, let's make it so everything makes sense (i.e. the Glock 22 is not a .22).
True and they keep dominating in worldwide sales. Glock….. love them or hate them one may, but they’re still WINNING.Best part is it doesn't require any engineering, it's all marketing.
Because the two models have different internals. Also if one anlready owns an G19, then his G47 can be broken down and converted like a G19X/G45, while the 17 can not. More configurations out of one gun with the G47 and an G19 gen5 combined. Also the G47 has compatibility with G19 Gen 5 internal parts.
FWIW....the 17L was originally a duty pistol for the Romanian "Brigada Antiterrorista" way before anyone considered it a competition gun.Because the two models are different length guns. The 17L is the longest and really only suited for competition long range pistol shooting or handgun hunting small ga,e and predators. Wheras the G34 can be and is carried as a duty pistol or competition gun for some. The 17L would be way too long and impractical to carry as a duty pistol.
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FWIW....the 17L was originally a duty pistol for the Romanian "Brigada Antiterrorista" way before anyone considered it a competition gun.