Is Five Really Enough???

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Like they already said, it will depend in the situation. Not all of us can carry a M-249 probably will like to, but we can't, lol JK

I usually carry a revolver as my primary gun and for me is all about practice i rather spend some money in ammo and practice than go and buy an expensive sight or something. if you can shoot with it you are fine.
 
Gunmeister,

Congratulations on the Model 60 purchase.
Again, Thank you for your Service.


That out of the way, new gun purchase means you get to make the coffee.
Well...don't just sit there, get with it! I take mine black. :D




Steve
 
One in the left eye, one in the right eye, one in the forehead and two in the heart. Yup 5 should do it. Chuck.
 
It might be enough I have an sp101 that i use for that role. Practice the reload. There maybe 8 of them lol. Or you could miss. Twice. patrick
 
For some yes, for others no. I am one of those that prefers the smooth, firm pull of my 642 to mushy Glock and XD triggers. As a result, I shoot my J Frame 642 as well or better than Glocks and XDs. I am most certainly in the minority on that one.

Maybe a minority anymore, but 30 years ago when revolvers were king, it was a majority. Personally, I agree with ya 100 percent! I don't like "safe action", feels like a mushy single action with a lot of creep. It's unpredictable, too. I am more accurate with a DA revolver that has a good SMOOTH trigger. It don't have to be a light trigger, just a smooth trigger.
 
Never felt having two 5 shot snubbies was a bad thing myself. ;)

Oh I don't know, maybe the BG is expecting a strong hand draw watching strong side...

Lady in little black dress attending a function with you can access one, as you practiced.

I mean the gangbanger often has his "Nine" in the purse of the GF, so a good street tip is watch for the "3+1" and the gal(s) in a gathering of folks. ;)

Physically Limited Folks, well a LOT can be learned from assisting them.

Canes, walkers, Amigos, Wheelchairs "advertise" easier Prey.
An especially vulnerable time is the use of "lifts" getting into a vehicle with Amigo, or Wheelchair.

Still, getting down on the ground, and not being able to access a gun, means having more than one is a good idea.
Grappling for a gun, is harder if that gun is a 5 shot J frame or Snubby like a Colt Detective, Ruger SP 101 , or even 3" RB K frame.

Even getting into the vehicle, with the lift, the BG has time to access vehicle.
I know, I have done this as being one physically limited and being the BG.

Slides can get out of battery, which can be good, or bad depending if you are the one the gun is pointed at, or you need to fire the gun.

5 shot also includes the NAA mini revolver. I highly recommend the lanyard that NAA does a great job on.

Now guys use the lanyard, still the ladies might want to pay attention, or those with ladies they are concerned about.

Lady is down, fighting, and hands are going where they should not be, bad breath distance and that NAA .22 lr with solids to a eyeball, in a mouth, Adam's Apple...the gun is around the neck, where can be accessed.

One lady carries a BUG, a 32 cal snub nosed revolver this way, and has for a long long time.

Forget the tack-tickle expensive knives. Get a good screwdriver , more than one is better.
Wheelchairs and Amigos need adjusting, and one will not get cut in using one as they will with a knife.
BGs taught me and others about screwdrivers a long long time ago.

This is why I stay in trouble with some and most often with some that have attended "schools".

Tell you what, just for fun, you and your lady, or ladies with your guy, take the USB Thumbdrive and get on the bed and play act.
Pretend the flashdrive is a NAA.

Now go get a drinking straw and pretend it is a screwdriver and play act with it.

Real deal stuff from the streets, and folks that have BTDT, and those that have survived.
Not everything is learned from a textbook or a building with "school" on the door.

;)
 
<<I'm left to wonder if five rounds in a "J" Frame .357Magnum is enough to feel comfortable with, God Forbid I'll ever have to use it.>>

It’s fine, if you’re an average Joe.
If you’re a V.I.P. that something different.
If one is on the “witness protection program”, it’s something different as well.
Being in the latter category. It does not really matter that much, what you have. If “they” really want to get to you, “they” know how. How much fire-power (beyond handguns), would be the least concern. This does not mean that it does not help though.
 
I like more heft, so I have SP101 snubbies. I appreciate the extra destructiveness of .357 ammo. I LIKE to have more than just five rounds available, but if it's just the one fivegun, I know I can handle most events that could conceivably occur. Five is enough, until it isn't. So, I USUALLY carry another gun! Whether the second is another SP101 snubby, a Ruger Speed Six or GP100, or sometimes my fat little duty SIG P229R or a 1911. FWIW, I tried the Glunck G27 "Baby Glock" for a while; just not for me; I found two SP101 snubbies to be handier than one G27. I also have an Airweight J-frame, but about the only time I need to go that light is when I injure my back, and every ounce is a pain.
 
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Yes. Chances are very slight that you will ever need to even draw, and even slighter that you would have to fire even one round. I feel adequately armed with my five shot .38 Spl, and it is light enough not to be noticeable.
 
I am very comfortable with either my S&W 442 in .38 or 640 in .357 when I am out and about. My reasoning, for what it's worth, is that I just can't imagine becoming involved in an ongoing gun battle while at the supermarket. I'm not saying it couldn't happen but the likely scenario is someone intent on robbing a helpless victim in the parking lot and discovering their victim is really not so helpless should stop the aggression. I have been in this situation and believe me it worked once they knew I was armed. I also would not engage in some kind of spray and pray shooting while in a public area. Now when it comes to home defense that is a different story, I want more firepower for the home invasion assailants. BTW, I highly recommend the Speer Gold Dot 135 grain short barrel .357 for your model 60, very little muzzle flash and lots of ooomph.
 
I think a lot of the problems that folks have with shooting J frames are greatly lessened when you put CT grips on them. CT grips plus 5 Gold Dot 135 grain plus p's take the J frame airweight to a whole different level.
 
Depending on the situation and shooter's ability five should suffice.I know the old time Colts ad of "six for sure" but I cut my teeth on a five shot J-frame.Always carry a reload and a sharp knife just in case.YMMV.tom.
 
Crimson Trace grips are a nice novelty but isn't the snubby really designed as a "get off of me gun?" I mean, in a self-defense situation, who's going to aim, anyway? It's all going bo boil down to instinct and point shooting.
 
There's no reason why a snubby can't be as inherently accurate a a full-sized gun. It's really only hampered by a short sight radius so I'd say putting CT grips on a snubby does in fact make a lot of sense for eliminating their primary shortcoming.
 
If a lightweight, compact revolver carrying more than five shots is desired there are still plenty of Colt Cobras/Agents on the used gun market. Slightly heavier and slightly larger than Smith "J" frames but carrying one more round, the Cobra/Agent series make nice carry revolvers, especially when equipped with the detachable hammer cover (though these can be difficult to find).
 
Depending on the situation and shooter's ability five should suffice.I know the old time Colts ad of "six for sure" but I cut my teeth on a five shot J-frame.Always carry a reload and a sharp knife just in case.YMMV.tom.

This is what I subscribe to.


And nice post, sm.
 
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Crimson Trace grips are a nice novelty but isn't the snubby really designed as a "get off of me gun?" I mean, in a self-defense situation, who's going to aim, anyway? It's all going bo boil down to instinct and point shooting.

"Is Five Really Enough???"
Probably, if you can hit what you aim at.
Twenty rounds isn't enough if you're just punching holes in air.


Novelty??

Do this "instinct and point shooting" without a Crimson Trace laser on your snubby.;)
I know I'm lucky to hit the paper when shooting from the hip without the laser.

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There are some shooters that can hit with a snubby without aiming, but not many, and I ain't one.:)
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Though we've clashed in the past, at least you're carrying a gun! Five shots may not be enough, but at least you'll give the goblin(s) a little surprise. Get it if you like it...do you really need an excuse to buy another gun? I'll write your wife a note if it helps.
 
Like the old man, that lives in Houston, said when asked by the Policeman, How did you shoot him ten times with that five shot revolver?

Well he kept trying to get up, so I reloaded and shot him five more times.




The old man was "No Billed" (good shooting).
The DOA had been robbing the old man of his SS check.
 
I feel that a five shot revolver serves as the absolute minimum - for a BUG. I do not walk out of the house with less than a 6 shot .357 and a reload, usualy 2 reloads. Often, then with a 5 shot .38 BUG as well.

Usually, though, I carry a 9 shot 1911 and 2 8 round mags spare. I consider 5 shots enough to handle no more than 2 bad guys, and maybe not even then. Just because you can hit a guy doesn't mean that he knows he's supposed to fall down and quit.
 
5 is enough until you have to reload. And that will happen pretty soon. Best if your fight involves just one other opponent, or a dog.
 
What really happens

I have this conversation with LEOs and they say that the hit rate for police officers is like 30%. I wonder if having hi cap has gotten into the heads of police and they just do not place shots as accurately as they used to when they had revolvers.
 
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