B.D. Turner
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I would take the .30 carbine over the SKS. The market is flooded with SKS's. You can always get an SKS later.
M1 .30 Carbine OR SKS?
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DMK
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That looks like a fun little carbine USSR. How stable is that mount?
Dave Markowitz
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Me likey!
I have two Carbines and two SKSes. My Underwood is in a replica M1A1 stock. I've been debating getting an Ultimak mount and whether to put it on the Underwood, or my Rock Ola which is in a regular M2 stock.
Decisions, decisions.
If the OP's funds are limited I usggest saving for an M1 Carbine. They aren't as common and so I suggest getting one while they're available. Then pick up an SKS.
As others have mentioned, these two are not really comparable, they serve different roles.
I would use an SKS for "battle", defending a neighborhood from looters, for hunting up to medium sized deer at reasonable ranges (with SP ammo), and for fun rifle target shooting.
I would use an M1 Carbine for in-home defense, for training new shooters (especially smaller stature and recoil sensitive), for hunting small game, and for fun short-range target shooting (not over 100 yards). With SP ammo (which was not available to the GIs who used it during wartime) it is a credible manstopper. It has been used by police forces that did not want to carry EBRs, and they reportedly "never had to shoot anyone twice". It might be a good bug-out-on-foot rifle because of it's light weight and the light weight of the ammo per shot, assuming you simply want to evac an area that is under "stress". It's more politically correct than an EBR or an SKS because of the lack of any "evil features", which may save you some hassles either now or in the future.
Different jobs, different tools. In a pinch they can be stretched to cover each other's areas, though not ideally. I already own 3 SKS rifles and plan to acquire 2 M1 carbines in the near future. I see a use for both types.
I would use an SKS for "battle", defending a neighborhood from looters, for hunting up to medium sized deer at reasonable ranges (with SP ammo), and for fun rifle target shooting.
I would use an M1 Carbine for in-home defense, for training new shooters (especially smaller stature and recoil sensitive), for hunting small game, and for fun short-range target shooting (not over 100 yards). With SP ammo (which was not available to the GIs who used it during wartime) it is a credible manstopper. It has been used by police forces that did not want to carry EBRs, and they reportedly "never had to shoot anyone twice". It might be a good bug-out-on-foot rifle because of it's light weight and the light weight of the ammo per shot, assuming you simply want to evac an area that is under "stress". It's more politically correct than an EBR or an SKS because of the lack of any "evil features", which may save you some hassles either now or in the future.
Different jobs, different tools. In a pinch they can be stretched to cover each other's areas, though not ideally. I already own 3 SKS rifles and plan to acquire 2 M1 carbines in the near future. I see a use for both types.
As much as I love the M1, I'd go for the SKS. When it comes down to shootability, where it's made doesn't matter, nor does it's history. SKSes are durable and more powerful. I love both and own both. I prefer the SKS, although the M1 will always hold a special place in my heart for it's history.
Neo-Luddite
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Remember, not that I agree:
Real deal Yugo SKS and WWII .30 Carbine are BOTH legally C/R guns HOWEVER:
-The Box mag on that little .30 M-1 may make it verbotten depending on where you live. Cook County, IL (example) just placed the carbine on the AWB list. It usually has gotten a pass--but the tactic of new AWB is to just make a photo copy of the last one passed -- so watch out. Cook countys list will be copied by everyone else now (even has the ar-10 and mini-14, too).
-re-stocking either weapon with a folder may make it non-C/R
-Judging by the hype--get the M-1 WHILE YOU CAN as everyone wants one before nasty Nancy says no more from CMP and (by extension) uncle fed gov.
Real deal Yugo SKS and WWII .30 Carbine are BOTH legally C/R guns HOWEVER:
-The Box mag on that little .30 M-1 may make it verbotten depending on where you live. Cook County, IL (example) just placed the carbine on the AWB list. It usually has gotten a pass--but the tactic of new AWB is to just make a photo copy of the last one passed -- so watch out. Cook countys list will be copied by everyone else now (even has the ar-10 and mini-14, too).
-re-stocking either weapon with a folder may make it non-C/R
-Judging by the hype--get the M-1 WHILE YOU CAN as everyone wants one before nasty Nancy says no more from CMP and (by extension) uncle fed gov.
RTFM
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Woo hoo good thread guys.
USSR great looking rifle there. How well does it shoot?
Must be a ball with that sight on it.
USSR great looking rifle there. How well does it shoot?
Must be a ball with that sight on it.
USSR
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The Ultimak mount is rock solid. The EoTech is a great sight for up close and personal encounters. Parallax is not a factor with a holographic sight. Just put the bright red 65MOA reticle on target, no matter where your head is.
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The Grand Inquisitor
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I think the new fetishistic fear ab out the new Congress is a little much, and in fact, to my knowledge, there has been no discussion of the CMP by the new Congress, but if you would like a Garand from the CMP, you should do it sooner rather than later because the price is going up while the supply is QUICKLY going down.
A few years ago I wanted to get one of their 1903's, and I ended up getting a Garand instead, well, fast forward to today, quality 1903's are a thing of the past at the CMP and the secondary market is the only game in town.
A few years ago I wanted to get one of their 1903's, and I ended up getting a Garand instead, well, fast forward to today, quality 1903's are a thing of the past at the CMP and the secondary market is the only game in town.
Neo-Luddite
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The DCM morphed into the CMP under Klinton because it was otherwise, as I understand it, going to evaporate under the DOD. If someone wants to sell the public on the idea that M-1 carbines are an assualt weapon, they might.
Even the bafoons at HCI have a hard time making a 1903 ir M-1 ugly enough. They are to the public parade rifles.
The low profile of the CMP is the only thing that saves it now, IMHO.
My feeling is that the forces of good that kept the DCM alive as the CMP KNOW that now is the hour to get as many carbines out there.
We all know what happened to the 1911's (or many of them).
Some yokel will dig out an m-2 with a folder on it and show sally the six o'clock media clown that you can get the same weapon from a program run by the government and they will tell you how easily it can be converted to 'full auto'.
And the fun will come to an end.
I hope not, and I'm sorry to worry and be disgreeable and off topic.
Even the bafoons at HCI have a hard time making a 1903 ir M-1 ugly enough. They are to the public parade rifles.
The low profile of the CMP is the only thing that saves it now, IMHO.
My feeling is that the forces of good that kept the DCM alive as the CMP KNOW that now is the hour to get as many carbines out there.
We all know what happened to the 1911's (or many of them).
Some yokel will dig out an m-2 with a folder on it and show sally the six o'clock media clown that you can get the same weapon from a program run by the government and they will tell you how easily it can be converted to 'full auto'.
And the fun will come to an end.
I hope not, and I'm sorry to worry and be disgreeable and off topic.
mokin
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... I stumbled upon this thread after returning from the range having sent many rounds downrange from an M-1 Carbine (made by Universal) with some questions about how they function--or fail too... A friend and I just spent several hours zeroing his carbine and testng some handloaded ammo. I think his carbine is wonderfull. It is lightweight, light recoil and we both put shots through the same hole at 50 yards. I presently own two SKS's and have owned and shot others in the past and think his carbine is great. After a little TLC I think it would be a great weapon to try out in a three gun match. From the experience I had today it seems quality magazines is the biggest issue when it would come to shooting a carbine in a "tactical" situation. Something you don't have to worry about with an SKS. I guess that is my two sense worth. I agree with everything else already posted about them being different weapons with different costs and power.
Had an M1 for years liked it very much but eventually sold it. Next, I bought my first SKS and found I like it even better than the M1. This led me to buying another SKS and I won't count out buying yet another. Haven't even entertained the thought of getting another M1.
MudPuppy
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I think an M1 Carbine is about the most pleasurable rifle there is to hold and shoot.
An SKS, imho, is better for defense or hunting, ammo is cheaper, probably more reliable...yada, yada.
Which one if I could only have one? Pains me to say it, but the practical side wins out and I'd go with an SKS.
An SKS, imho, is better for defense or hunting, ammo is cheaper, probably more reliable...yada, yada.
Which one if I could only have one? Pains me to say it, but the practical side wins out and I'd go with an SKS.
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