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Bought a new Springfield M1A over the weekend and all I've read about is how weak the trigger assembly is but I can't seem to find anyone that has a complete mil spec trigger group for sale any help would be very much appreciated
 
Shoot it. If it breaks, send it back and they'll fix it for free, or you can buy very overpriced (currently) GI guts for it. My guess is you won't have any trouble. If you insist on replacing a perfectly functional SAI group with a GI trigger group, check out M14forum.com. Bring money. ;)
 
"...complete mil spec trigger group..." Probably isn't such a thing. All those parts would be sold separately. 'Mil Spec' is most a marketing term too. However, I've never heard of M1A triggers being weak either.
And if you change any parts SA Inc. will void your warrantee.
 
I have used several M1As and a number of M1 Grand rifles (basically the same trigger), shooting them for several thousand rounds of military ball ammo with never a trigger group malfunction. Neither the design nor the construction of these trigger groups is weak. As 1Kperday said, above: if it breaks, send it to SAI and they'll fix it.

As a general thought, there are many people posting on the web who generalize from personal anecdotal experience, the anecdotal experience of others, or schtuff they've read from unreliable sources (edited to retain a "G" rating). These posts cannot be taken as fact. There are authoritative sources on both the web and in books that would say otherwise.

My father, his older brother, two cousins and my brother bet their lives on M1s and M14s. They won their bets while in the service...and if needs be, I'd bet mine on them as well.

YMMV, but I doubt it will,

Harry
 
I haven't heard of any trigger problems....... But IIRC on an M-14 / M-1A trigger assembly, a lot of the parts inside that assembly are interchangeable with the M-1. I also haven't heard of any M-1 trigger problems and AFAIK those M-1 trigger parts should be available if needed. Just google "M-1 Garand M-14 common parts" or something to that effect. Good luck with your new rifle; that trigger assembly is pretty much an M-1 Garand design and that design's been more than proven over all these years. All I can think of problem wise is if they put in some newer, not up to GI spec, cheaper parts but that's just my wild guess.
 
I replaced my M1A trigger with Garand parts thinking they'd be better. Other than knowing that they are GI parts, I can't tell a difference at all. I'd be more worried about the extractor taking a flight on you. Mine flew into oblivion on the 33rd round it ever fired. Replaced with GI and no more problems and I never bothered contacting SAI. Come to think of it, pretty much everything I did to improve the accuracy of the rifle has returned a net gain of zero. It was 2-2.5 MOA when I bought it and it remains the same today. I feel like it's a good one and perfectly acceptable to me.
 
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I replaced my M1A trigger with Garand parts thinking they'd be better. Other than knowing that they are GI parts, I can't tell a difference at all. I'd be more worried about the extractor taking a flight on you. Mine flew into oblivion on the 33rd round it ever fired. Replaced with GI and no more problems and I never bothered contacting SAI. Come to think of it, pretty much everything I did to improve the accuracy of the rifle has returned a net gain of zero. It was 2-2.5 MOA when I bought it and it remains the same today. I feel like it's a good one and perfectly acceptable to me.
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I have owned and traded many M1A's and I don't remember one that shot 2.5" group. I have a current one now the loaded one with a stainless barrel and I get 1" groups. its seems like a standard model except for the stainless barrel
 
1 MOA M1A's are the exception, not the rule. There are match versions and "accurized" rigs that will do it, but the average one you pick up off the shelf likely will not. Mine is a Scout version in a GI fiberglass stock with match front post and standard rear sight. It shoots the same whether it is in the plastic or wood stocks as well. I average 3 MOA with my bulk 150gr Hornady FMJ's and squeak out 2 MOA with carefully loaded SMK's. I invite you to pull out a measuring tape and see what 5" or 6" looks like, which is a typical group I get at 200 yards with iron sights. Not a cherry picked 5 shot group, but a 20 rd. magazine. I stand by the fact that this is good performance for an M1A with a decent shooter.
 
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1 MOA M1A's are the exception, not the rule. There are match versions and "accurized" rigs that will do it, but the average one you pick up off the shelf likely will not. Mine is a Scout version in a GI fiberglass stock with match front post and standard rear sight. It shoots the same whether it is in the plastic or wood stocks as well. I average 3 MOA with my bulk 150gr Hornady FMJ's and squeak out 2 MOA with carefully loaded SMK's. I invite you to pull out a measuring tape and see what 5" or 6" looks like, which is a typical group I get at 200 yards with iron sights. Not a cherry picked 5 shot group, but a 20 rd. magazine. I stand by the fact that this is good performance for an M1A with a decent shooter.
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being you have a scout which is not the original design might be the problem. I have never really heard of a scout being as accurate as the full size standard version. in the 80's I had and my friends had many of the Chinese norinco M1A's and they all shot under 1 1/2 with norinco ball ammo. my range had 200 yd range so we shot sitting and got 3 inch groups. try a full size version if you can. not saying you are not a good shooter and I can see you are honest I believe it is the scout version that is the problem
 
Never heard of that problem.
I've had my M1a for more than 12 years now and multiple cases of cheap steel cased Russian/Chinese, Austrian and Portuguese ammunition and nary a problem. I know 2 people personally who had issues with their M1as' but never the trigger group (both were barrel related).
 
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