Need reloading data for Speer bullets

[kainronin]

I have 200 of these bullets I want to reload, but my Speer manual does not have the data. They seem to have been discontinued a couple of years ago. If anyone has the data I would appreciate it. They are Speer 44 cal 240Gr soft points #4447. Thanks!

 

[CZ57]

In the SPEER #11 manual the #4447 Soft Point is loaded to the same charge as their three other bullets, the Magnum HP, Magnum SP and TMJ. What Powder and primers are you using?

 

[BADUNAME37]

I'm sure you have considered this, but I will throw it out anyway.

If you are trying to work up an accurate load, I am not sure I would want to use a component that is no longer available. If you end up with a perfect load that is extremely accurate, once you are finished shooting those projectiles, where do you then go from there?

 

[rcmodel]

That is the old Half-Jacket 240 discontinued several years ago.

I have a Speer manual or two that has data for them.

However, it would sure help to know what caliber you want to shoot them in?
.44 Spl or .44 Mag?

Also, what powder you want to use?

Regardless of that, my Speer #13 manual says you can load them using existing data for the full jacket 240 SP & HP by reducing the max load by 1 grain.

FYI: You also do not want to download half-jacket bullets below listed starting load velocity as jackets stuck in the bore are a very good possibility.

That is probably the main reason they stopped making them.

rc

 

[Doug b]

My Speer #12 manual has a notation with the 240 gr. bullets stating "these loads may be used with the 240 gr. JSP-SWC (#4447) by reducing maximum charges by one grain".

Sounds to me like Speer bullet #4447 is a 240gr. bullet.

My bad Kainronin confused your bullet count and weight numbers.

 

[kainronin]

Yes, I have considered that. I got them from someone that thought they wanted to reload,but ended up not doing it. I am mainly going to use them for target shooting.

 

[kainronin]

Thanks guys. My new 14 manual said nothing about theses older bullets.

 

[rcmodel]

Still no mention of caliber you want to use them in?

Just be aware of what I said in post #4 about the danger of half-jacket bullets and light target loads.
Do not go below suggested starting loads for other jacketed bullets.

rc

 

[Doug b]

RC as I read that notation in #12 one gr.under max is the start load.

 

[rcmodel]

No, that is 1 grain under MAX is the Max load.

The start load is the same.

Half-jacket bullets are softer then jacketed bullets so the max is lower due to the bullet being softer and easier to bump up in the forcing cone.

rc

 

[Doug b]

That would explain why I didn't like them.

 

[Clark]

"Speer 3" 1959 44 mag 240 gr. JSP..........23.0 gr. 2400 1564 fps
"Speer 6" 1964 44 mag 240 gr. JSP..........23.0 gr. 2400 1564 fps
"Speer 7" 1966 44 mag 240 gr. JSP..........23.0 gr. 2400 1564 fps
"Speer 8" 1970 44 mag 240 gr. JSP..........23.0 gr. 2400 1521 fps
"Speer 9" 1974 44 mag 240 gr. JSP..........19.5 gr. 2400 1344 fps
"Speer 10" 1979 44 mag 240 gr. JSP&MSP 22.2 gr. 2400 1392 fps.
"Speer 11" 1987 44 mag 240 gr. JSP&MSP 22.2 gr. 2400 1452 fps
"Speer 12" 1994 44 mag 240 gr. JSP&MSP 17.7 gr. 2400 1271 fps
"Speer 13" 1998 44 mag 240 gr. JSP&MSP 21.0 gr. 2400 1434 fps
"Speer 14" 2007 44 mag 240 gr. JSP&MSP 21.0 gr. 2400 ???? fps


What does it all mean?

1) They regularly wax the Speer Ouija board.

2) If it is 44 mag loads you seek, 24 gr H110 or W296 and roll crimp into the cannelure.
This is accurate in the rifles, powerful in the revolvers, and the most common 44mag published load.

 

[kainronin]

Loading for the .44 Mag. I loaded them with 12.5 of Blue Dot. Yes, you take away one grain from the max charge. The data would be for Blue Dot,
12.3-12.7. Not really looking for the most accurate load with them. Just some rounds to throw down at the range. I got the bullets for free..