No concealed cary in Hilton hotels?

[Jason_M700]

I stayed in a Hilton last week and did not notice whether they had the signs or not. Either way, it wouldn't have mattered to me. That sign does not provide protection for me or my family, and my family will be protected.

 

[G27RR]

What about open carry?

Not legal in TX.

 

[bushmaster1313]

That Hilton sounds like the entire state of New Jersey.

Expensive to stay there and you can't carry

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Guys, this isn't a matter of them not finding out, its illegal to carry when they have a properly posted 30.06 sign.

 

[LiquidTension]

SC has a law stating that it is legal to carry a concealed handgun without a permit from your vehicle to a room that you have paid hospitality tax on. Maybe TX has something similar and the 30.06 sign wouldn't apply anyway? Could be something to research for those that live in TX.

 

[GregC]

Every door I saw, front and sides, had the signage. Both English and Spanish.

I had the same question about the room being your "home." I can't see it being any different than renting an appartment.

 

[Ford4x4]

I stayed in a Hilton in Fairlawn, OH recently. Same deal, already paid for, so I stayed. In Ohio signs carry the force of law. I was extremely disappointed to see large signs on all the doors banning firearms inside, as well as the parking lot. Never going to a Hilton again. Even if its not illegal, I'd prefer as many armed good guys around as possible, because I know the bad guys are anyway.

 

[kwelz]

Up until very recently I was the DoS for a Hampton Suites which is a Hilton brand. There is no brand standard regarding weapons for guests. However Hilton doesn't own the hotels. They are franchised. And a management company or owner can set any policy they want that does not conflict with brand standards.

 

[USAF_Vet]

Guys, this isn't a matter of them not finding out, its illegal to carry when they have a properly posted 30.06 sign.

This. I don't understand the "concealed means concealed" crowd. they advocate breaking the law. Yes, it's a stupid, draconian law that shouldn't exist, but since it does exist, follow it or you're no better than those who carry illegal weapons, because that is exactly what you are doing when you ignore the signs. In Michigan, ignore the sign, get caught, lose you CPL. It's not worth it. Fight the good fight by getting the law revoked and vote with your wallet (I know the OP was unaware, due to buying ahead of time on Priceline).

If I was in your position, I'd unload the gun and put it in my luggage, not leave it locked in the parking lot.

 

[RiverCity.45]

you can always be arrested -- "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride!"

But unless the sign is on every entrance that is open to the public the posting is not valid.

Woops. That's a myth. The statute states the sign must be displayed conspicuously. There is no statutory requirement that every entrance be posted.

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[Pacsd]

Sign???...what sign????...Oh, THAT sign. Nope, didn't see it or all those Visa, MasterCard, Discover or Diners Club signs either. So, if it's a restricted CCW then I'll just hang it on my hip, OK?

 

[locnload]

I attended the "Polite Society Tacticle Conference" in Tulsa this spring. The Hilton Garden Inn at the airport was the host hotel and I think most of the attendees and instructors from out of town stayed there. There had to be more guns at the Breakfast Buffet than the in Tulsa PD HQ. Must be an individual franchise thing.

 

[GEM]

That's correct. I couldn't go this year but last year we all clanked walking down the hall! See all the long arm cases on the baggage carts.

 

[pioneer461]

How would they know? While you are renting the room, that room becomes your home. None of their business.

 

[Kliegl]

I was getting ready to blast someone trying to enter my room on me once in a Hilton in Kentucky. I decided to call the lobby.

Me: This dude is trying to get into my room, I think you told him the wrong room.
Them: Oh, sorry, but it's no big deal, the key won't work, and, even if it did, you just need to tell him "Wrong Room, sir"
Me: You might want to MAKE SURE he stops trying to get in here.
Them: ................oh. ..........Ok, we'll send someone right up.

 

[ChileRelleno]

The right answers have already been given here, let go over them again.

1) Its a franchise, they can make their own rules as long as they're inline with Corporate policy.
Make sure Corporate knows of this Hotel's policy, and how you'll vote with your wallet from now on.

2) Too bad it was already paid, don't ever use them again.
Make sure the owner knows how you'll vote with your wallet from now on.
Make sure to write numerous online reviews on this hotel's policy.

3) The 30-06 signage makes any CC illegal on the premises.
Don't go concealed in the hotel... Period.
You print, someone notices, cops get called, you go to jail, you lose your CCW... Just don't, not worth it.

5) Place weapon in any appropriate container, enter hotel and proceed to room, remove in room & have at hand.
IIRC, TX Castle Law makes hotel room your legal abode.
Remove in same manner and proceed with normal CC.

 

[oneounceload]

He booked through another site - not Hilton's issue

Not all are franchises - some are corporate-owned, he needs to determine which it is

Agree on the signage and the method to bring it to your room

 

[S. Hill]

I would pack it in my luggage and went to my room TX law says you can have a gun when you travel. When you pay for a room it becomes legally your home.

Yup, I would have walked back to the vehicle, unloaded my handgun, stuffed it into my overnite bag, and taken it up to my room. As soon as I got into my room I would have re-loaded it.

Here in WI we haven't had the "privilege" of carrying. That doesn't mean that we are disarmed, it means that it isn't on our person. When I travel, I take a handgun along with me, from my vehicle into the hotel room.

 

[35 Whelen]

Following the law, I returned to the truck and left my weapon locked inside.

Who was it that said: " I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six."?

Seriously, I know it's "illegal", and to your credit, I suppose you did the right thing, but what good does being "legal" if you're dead?

35W

 

[Ignition Override]

GregC:

It is also likely that the Business Center at that Hilton blocks any gun topics on the hotel's computers, unless they charge your credit card to cruise the Internet.

The computers in the Hampton Inn at Crystal City/(DCA) Wash. National Airport blocked gun websites last night. This seems to be a growing trend.
The only exception at these hotels is via Wikipedia.

 

[doc540]

Honest question:

Given the fact the hotels Hotels are some of most criminally high risk areas in North America, why do some here rate the risk of CCW arrest higher than the risk of disarmed death?

I would think that losing one's life would mean more than losing one's carry license.

 

[USAF_Vet]

I've spend hundreds of nights staying at hotels around the world. I was unarmed in the vast majority of them. Never once, even in foreign countires, have I felt unsafe in my hotel room. Outside the room, that's a different story.

Maybe I've been playing the odds and my numbers about to come up, but I doubt it. Eitherway, CCW or not, I'll still have a gun in my hotel room when I travel these days.

 

[gwagner]

Was it the Hilton Garden Inn Galleria?

 

[GregC]

Just "Hilton" on Post Oak

 

[ChileRelleno]

Honest question:

Given the fact the hotels Hotels are some of most criminally high risk areas in North America, why do some here rate the risk of CCW arrest higher than the risk of disarmed death?

I would think that losing one's life would mean more than losing one's carry license. __________________

Care to give some citation to that?

I think it was only the OP, who decided to go unarmed.
The rest of us, IIRC, including myself, thought it prudent for him to simply case-n-carry his weapon into his room, and thus stay armed.
A simple zippered carry case would actually keep the weapon literally at hand while entering/exiting the hotel, and would constitute transport, not carry.

The prudence being that you if you violated the 30-06 and were caught, you'd then lose your CC permit.
And that would be a very bad thing, so don't take the risk, however minimal.