Pacific Theater Guns (In Honor of the HBO Series, "THe Pacific")

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I know this question is a bit OT, but I'll ask anyway:

Is there a way to download the first episode & save it to the 'puter to watch later? I'm too cheap to pay for HBO for one series or a DVR, and don't want to wait for it on DVD.

Back on topic, now, Doug - I've seen some museums with fewer exhibits than you have. Well done, sir.

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Each WWII Marine raider fire team had a BAR,a Thompson submachinegun and M1 Garand as per this<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx50o-eAYdA&feature=related>
 
Watched the 1st episode !

Nice to finally see about Basilone in a movie. I whish more people in italy knew about him (i'm half Italian) . italians in america werent only mafia... (my great grand father fought in WW1 with the US expeditionary corp)

not legal, but since it's in streaming, know that you can find the 1st episode torrent pretty easely.
 
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I guess the PC pro-gun wing would be happier if Ted Nugent had produced Band of Brothers and The Pacific. But he didn't. Tom Hanks did. Get over it and be grateful some people in Hollywood still remember and honor the sacrifices that the WWII generation made.

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Doug - I've seen some museums with fewer exhibits than you have. Well done, sir.

Thanks, and yes it does have quite a mix of stuff. There are a lot of artifacts scattered about that you can't see in the picture. Items that many people would see as just old junk, broken points, potsherds, and the like. Just things that I've literally picked up through the years. A person really has to be a history buff to enjoy my "Cave".:)

Doug S, that Mosin Nagant had the potential to be used in the Pacific Theater, had we invaded Japan and Russia would help us out.

I guess the Mosin Nagant could have seen some time in the Pacific. Didn't the Russians mobilize for war with Japan, toward the end of WWII?
 
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What are you supposed to say about the enemy....?

"They are such great guys, actually a lot like you, probably a little scared and thinking of home........Now go kill him." :scrutiny:

It just works better when you make them a bad guy, of course they gave us plenty of real things to use as fotter in this also.

DougS - I like your "man cave" (Never thought I would say that to another man) :what:
 
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Now, about Tom Hanks. There was a lot of racism in WWII. Look at the war propaganda posters and stuff in magazines where the Japanese were portrayed with full on stereotypes and were labeled as barbarians, their military was cruel though. Going to war with them wasn't really fueled by racism but America used racism in propaganda. Same thing with the Germans in both WW's. I don't agree with Hank's comments entirely but racism did have a role in WWII.

There was plenty of propoganda about the Japanese being nasty, and portraying them as buck-toothed characters with glasses made of the bottoms of Coke bottles. And the Germans ("Huns") were also portrayed nasty. There probably hasn't been a country at war in history that hasn't portrayed the enemy as demonic in some way. It helps solidify the populace around the effort of war.
The Japanese had their prejudices as well. In fact, they believed we were a weak an indolent race, and would not perservere in the war. They believed this strongly enough, in fact, that it was part of their calculation in going to war; they figured the attack on Pearl Harbor would take out our Pacific fleet and we would never be effective against them.
They were quite wrong. Admiral Yamomoto, who led the Pearl Harbor attack, had studied at Yale and Harvard and knew America better than most, had warned against this attitude, but unfortunatly few if any listened to him.

As far as the military, they were as human as anyone but there never was a policy of antiJapanes or anti German racism. They realized the fact we were up against some evil, determined forces and believed we'd have to fight "total war" to win, but that isn't racism.
Hanks isn't entirely wrong, but he is rather a knaif.
 
I still dislike the way the Japanese gloss over the war. The way their history books in their schools cover it is a joke. They call it the "Pacific War", or something like that. No mention is every made of any of the crap they did.
 
Didn't the Russians mobilize for war with Japan, toward the end of WWII?

Yup. The Russians invaded Manchuria after the A-bomb was dropped. From the little I know about it, it was a total rout for the Japanese. Fighting a bunch of Russians with PPsH, Mosin-Nagants, and T-34/85s out the ears means the Japanese lose. Didn't help that the only effective Japanese anti-tank weapon was a suicidal soldier with 10-20 pound of explosive. Try using that on a Russian tank, even notice the amount of SMGs the Rusians had?
 
Uncle billy, I too thought I saw a Marine with a left handed rifle on Part One of The Pacific.

Being a lefty it is automatic to look for them. Bolt rifle browsing is easy, just look for the odd ones.
 
Yup. The Russians invaded Manchuria after the A-bomb was dropped. From the little I know about it, it was a total rout for the Japanese. Fighting a bunch of Russians with PPsH, Mosin-Nagants, and T-34/85s out the ears means the Japanese lose. Didn't help that the only effective Japanese anti-tank weapon was a suicidal soldier with 10-20 pound of explosive. Try using that on a Russian tank, even notice the amount of SMGs the Rusians had?

They mixed it up in 1938-39, the Russians destroyed them. Look up the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. Its a very important battle in history and probably decided the course of events for the war in Europe. Its also important because it showed what kind of commander Zhukov was.

The reason Hitler could never get the Japanese to attack Russia with him was because of this war and that battle. If they had chances are Russia would have fallen.
 
The Siberian divisions had been left posted in the far east in case the Japanese attacked Russia. Stalin recalled them in December, 1941 and they prevented the fall of Moscow.The Siberians were trained and equiped for extreme cold weather, the Germans were not. IIRC, the Russians mixed 1 part gasoline with 3 parts gun oil to keep their weapons functioning in sub-zero temps. Their weapons worked while the German's did not.
 
Somehow the Tommygun did'nt look right to me. I'm not talking about the drum mag.....but the actuator was ON TOP of the reciever like the early Colt guns, and the actuator knob itself did'nt look right for a military issue Thompson.

I thought all GI Thompsons were M1 models with side mounted knobs. I'm likely wrong though because I'm sure the movies guys got it right.
 
When the war began the 1928 style Thompson was what was on hand and a lot of them saw use in WW2. The M1 and M1A1 were the models numbers with the side mounted actuators. They began transitioning to these models in 1942 as they needed to start churning out lots of guns real fast, and the Thompson, aside from being heavy was complicated and expensive to make. The internal parts were modified; the Blish system used to achieve delayed blowback was deleted, the cooling fins on the barrel, and the Cutts compensator were deleted. The rear sight was replaced with a simpler one. The actuator was moved from the top to the side to eliminate the need to mill a channel to see the sights, and in the M1A1 version the hammer & firing pin were omited and the bolt used "slamfire" to ignite the cartridge ( a "nib" was left milled into the boltface to act in place of the firing pin).
But, both versions of the Thompson saw a lot of WW2 use. As far as the actuator not "looking right" I can't say as I'm unfamiliar with what you're refering to here.
 
At Guadalcanal Marines had M1928 Thompsons with 20 round sticks and 50 round drums (even a few M1921s with vertical foregrips. The GI M1 Thompson (side mounted bolt handle) did not get into the supply chain until later. The Marines were also stuck with the Reising M50 (a civilian police SMG that should never have been sent to play in the saltwater and sand of Guadalcanal.) They used the BAR and the watercooled Browning.

The Marines in 1942 were on the long end of the supply train and used Springfield bolt actions until they started getting M1 Garands and M1 carbines.

My dad fought in WWII in the Sixth Army division in New Guinea and the Phillipines. Yes, there was racial hatred of an enemy who not only looked different from you, but who fought under a black flag: no quarter asked, no quarter given, and whose idea of surrender was a suicidal Banzai charge with no ammo and fixed bayonets. It took Dad ten years after the war til he realized that they were just soldiers fighting for their country too, and actually taught me to respect them for doing as they were taught and raised to do. I have a copy of the letter the Army sent my grandma when he received his Bronze Star for single handedly counter attacking a Japanese patrol with his BAR inflicting "several" casualties. I remember from the 1950s the WWII era cartoons with hideous caricatures of Jap soldiers with huge buck teeth and coke bottle glasses, so Tom Hanks is guilty of recognising the obvious: during WWII we dehumanized the enemy. But I have a friend who served recently in Afghanistan, and he had Afghan comrades and they all saw the Taliban as the common enemy and I never heard a racist word from him.
 
Not the best photos but here is a friends Arisaka Type 44 carbine. His grandfather brought it back from WWII.
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SalchaketJoe: Thanks, I was wondering if I was mistaken. I tried to find it again on HBO on demand but wasn't successful. Oh well, no big deal I guess.
 
Can't put up any pictures as I am abroad for this semester, but i've got a Type 99 that my great uncle brought back with him from the Pacific. I never got to hear the exact story of how he got it, all I know is he brought it back home with him and gave it to my grandpa, who gave it to me. The mum has been ground off, which makes me think he picked it up after the war ended while he was still over there? Does anybody know exactly when the mums were ground off?
 
Requiring the mums to be ground off: I believe this was a face-saving gesture by Gen. MacArthur after the Japanese surrender, and supposedly helped get cooperation from the Japanese in exchange for removing some of the bitterness of defeat (to avoid the mistake that was made humiliating Germany after WWI with the Versailles Treaty). The Crysanthemum was a sacred symbol to the Japanese also found on the figureheads of Japanese warships.
 
The Crysanthemum represented owership of the Emperior.

One of the reasons the Japanese fought for so long when they knew it was over was to preserve the Emperior.

In hindsight requiring unconditional surrrender was probably a bad policy. Churchill for one was not to thrilled about it.
 
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