The Bushmaster
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Not sure just what all the fooforah is all about here, but if you are DEAD you sure as hell can't be sued. Don't know 'bout you, but I'd rather be alive. Then worry about being sued...
In recent years, a number of states have adopted or considered bills referred to as “castle doctrine” bills. These bills expand the circumstances where a person can use self-defense without retreating and contain other provisions, such as immunity for someone who legally uses force in self-defense. A Washington Post article states that the Florida bill was given the name the “castle doctrine” by Florida lobbyist Marion P. Hammer, a former National Rifle Association president (“Florida Gun Law to Expand Leeway for Self-Defense,” Washington Post, April 26, 2005). These bills have also been called “stand your ground” bills.
We found 15 states that adopted a “castle doctrine” bill in the last two years. These states are: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and South Dakota. A number of other states considered bills on this topic. In New Hampshire, the legislature passed a “castle doctrine” bill but the governor vetoed it.
The "fooforah" is if I am paying for high personal injury liability limits or an umbrella because I'd like some protection "in the gravest extreme" I want to know it is really there. I thought it was but it wasn't!
Especially if you live in an area that is heavily ethnic and doesn't like other ethnics.
I think I would prefer to use a non-lethal weapon like peppergas or a stun gun rather than something permanent as a handgun. Obviously, if the bad guy already has a gun out and is pointing it at you or your family, all bets are off. But just blowing someone away is a risky affair at best. Especially if he is unarmed and poses no apparent threat to you.
I'm seriously not worried about this because I am not going to shoot anybody. I will defend what is mine and stop something that is threatening me, my family, or my property. If it takes a firearm to do this, then so be it. I know that Texas law has my back because I am completely in my right to do it and the person I need to stop or protect against will be 100% stopped; the threat will be over and out gone. The family won't be able to do jack either because I was working within my rights.
"You mean like the United States?"
I mean SPECIFIC locations in the USA. In my town, if I go to a jury trial, the majority of the jurors will NOT be "among my peers". Do I have to spell it out for you? PM me if you need more clarification.
So if I have a close encounter of the unpleasant kind, I will uneash my fire extinguisher-sized peppergas on him and hope he doesn't have something lethal to counter it. I spent 22 years working in and around jails and prisons. That is NOT somewhere I would want to spend my retirement years in.
"You mean like the United States?"
I mean SPECIFIC locations in the USA. In my town, if I go to a jury trial, the majority of the jurors will NOT be "among my peers". Do I have to spell it out for you? PM me if you need more clarification.
"While I agree the last thing any of us wishes to do is take a life, anyone NOT supposed to be in my house is a threat. Trying to decide between pepper spray and a handgun at 3AM could negate the entire argument."
That may work in locations where there is a Castle Doctrine. My state DOESN'T have it. We are also a red state that has far left leanings and liberal DAs in my county. They have already done away with the death penalty in NM. We have already been told in our neighborhood watch meetings we WILL be prosecuted if we use lethal force for ANY reason. Even the police warn us that we have to be 100% CERTAIN before we pull the trigger that we are justified in doing so. So we CAN'T just blast anyone we encounter in the house. We have to be able to PROVE in a court of law that either we or our family members are in imminent fear for our lives. Not exactly an easy thing to do. And if it's pitch black and you can't see what's in the hand of the bad guy, it definitely puts you at a disadvantage, which is EXACTLY the intention of the DA. They are pro-criminal and anti-honest citizen. So if I have a close encounter of the unpleasant kind, I will uneash my fire extinguisher-sized peppergas on him and hope he doesn't have something lethal to counter it. I spent 22 years working in and around jails and prisons. That is NOT somewhere I would want to spend my retirement years in.
I did not say I would shoot someone because I would not ever shoot someone. I would defend myself, family, or property with a gun and would stop a threat, but I would never shoot someone. You never say that just like you don't say you tried to kill someone or you did kill them. You feared for your safety, felt threatened, were protecting your property and you stopped the threat. The cops will figure out the gun part on their own, they don't need you to explain it to them.Maybe I missed something, but how do you NOT shoot someone with a firearm...short of beating them to death?
EddieNFL said:Maybe I missed something, but how do you NOT shoot someone with a firearm...short of beating them to death?
rd2007 said:I did not say I would shoot someone because I would not ever shoot someone. I would defend myself, family, or property with a gun and would stop a threat, but I would never shoot someone. You never say that just like you don't say you tried to kill someone or you did kill them. You feared for your safety, felt threatened, were protecting your property and you stopped the threat. The cops will figure out the gun part on their own, they don't need you to explain it to them.
Okay, I follow. You can tell I'm not a lawyer.I did not say I would shoot someone because I would not ever shoot someone. I would defend myself, family, or property with a gun and would stop a threat, but I would never shoot someone. You never say that just like you don't say you tried to kill someone or you did kill them. You feared for your safety, felt threatened, were protecting your property and you stopped the threat. The cops will figure out the gun part on their own, they don't need you to explain it to them.
This is the same reason that most lawyers will tell you never to put a "beware of dog" sign on your property. The sign itself could be used argue that you KNEW the dog was dangerous and yet you did not take proper steps to protect the guy who jumped your fence and was breaking into your house when your dog bit him.