Seems like a good org. To paint a clear picture, what's the membership numbers of LEAA compared to the membership numbers of an anti-gun police org? That would give us an idea of the numbers of LEOs that feel one way or the other.
That is the same logic that also opposes national CCW for cops, "all or nothing."
Please show me the proof and research that you have done before making this statement, because I'm SURE that any good gun-owner wouldn't go spouting off any kind of blanket statement without proper data.
I'd attribute a lot of anti-gun victories to the police. Whenever anti-gun legislation is proposed the vocal majority of police are out there supporting it. How would making LEOs into elite citizens change this?That is the same logic that also opposes national CCW for cops, "all or nothing." It's that kind of thinking that is why the anti-gun crowd is winning.
In case you haven't, here it is.Well, I've got a video on my computer where a cop covering a suspect while her partner is ontop of him discharges her gun and damn near kills them both. I'm sure y'all have all seen it though.
Thanks for proving my point. While you're out tilting at windmills fighting, "all or nothing" the anti-gun people are winning one little battle at a time. With each little victory of theirs the big victory of the pro-2A side becomes more of an impossibility.Here in Virginia, for the purposes of reciprocity a police officer's commission is a concealed carry permit (we have a law to this effect). This puts police officers and "ordinary" citizens on the same playing field when negotiating for recognition in other states. A CCW law for police officers only would further serve to create that class of "super-citizens." If LEOs had national CCW, do you really think the Virginia State Police would give two hoots about expanding Virginia's reciprocity agreements? It'd be a dead issue.
Well, I've got a video on my computer where a cop covering a suspect while her partner is ontop of him discharges her gun and damn near kills them both. I'm sure y'all have all seen it though.
Look at the restrictions some agencies put on the type of sidearm and type of ammunition their officers carry.
If you really want to hear something ridiculous the NJ State Police recently wanted to upgrade their 9mm sidearms to .40 caliber. They were denied because the legal advisor stated that .40 caliber sounded too threatening and would scare the public.
The police and military are two different entities with completely different missions. Your argument is that of one who wants the police to operate like the military, thus allowing America to pass its awkward stage.If you can use the "if I can have one too" argument, then you should argue to remove machineguns from all government agencies, including the military.
The vocal majority of police support gun control. As to the number of LEOs that don't support it, we have no idea because they usually don't make their views known to the public; because of this the public only sees the supporters which causes them to believe that almost all LEOs support gun control.To the mention of police handing out anti gun victories- are they talking about the man on the street or the politico who likes to see their face on TV?
I'm one who argues that there are some law enforcement situations where a select fire weapon would be more useful than a semi-auto and the fact the government has deemed it appropriate to restrict my rights as to machinegun ownership, the loss of my rights should not be the reason to hamstring law enforcement's ability to have them.The police and military are two different entities with completely different missions. Your argument is that of one who wants the police to operate like the military, thus allowing America to pass its awkward stage.
Heck. The vocal majority of Americans support gun control as well, as defined by this board (read: any rule, reguation or so-called 'infringement' of the individual's right to bear arms). So what is your point? The cops resemble the citizenry they serve. This is not exactly news.The vocal majority of police support gun control.
I'll assume, then, that every one of us has 'gotten vocal' and changed our government, then? Same argument. I can assume, then, that your state and local legislators are pro-RKBA? And your governor, and President as well?Get vocal and change the management at FOP and others.