SIG 556 Announcement

[Black Majik]

I absolutely love the 55x series rifles, but the ones posted were absolutely fugly. That handguard ruined the rifle along with the AR vented stocks. Spoilers and vents belong on a car, not on a SIG rifle.

As to any 55x rifles. Thumbs up!

 

[Greg Bell]

Dude, its just a handguard. Put on a quad rail if you don't like it.

 

[Harry Tuttle]

The narrow waist at the back of the receiver looks wimpy

a magpul would look beefier:

 

[Greg Bell]

Here is my guess for the Swat SBR model

 

[beerslurpy]

oh snap

that looks hot

sig is smart to borrow all the accessories from the AR market, since recreating that from scratch would be difficult and expensive. This gun is going to MURDER the AR 15 market overnight. It takes all the same toys and is fundamentally a better rifle.

That SBR looks like a normal length rifle. Yep, its 16 inches, even for swat.

edit: MSRP 1200 ???!?!?!??!!? DUBYA TEE EFF!!!! That is awesome, a sub 1000 dollar rifle that is dead reliable, takes AR accessories and is as accurate as an AR? Holy crap!

 

[Greg Bell]

Wait a minute! I'm bored and my copy of photoshop times out soon...

Revised 556 Swat SBR

 

[Kaylee]

So add the Magpul to yours. AR buffer tube and all, it should work, right?

Hrmm... I wonder if they'll make a left-hand charging/ right-hand ejecting version eventually?

Anyhow, I don't think I want one, but it sure is nice to see more EBRs hit the shore

 

[swingset]

oh snap
sig is smart to borrow all the accessories from the AR market, since recreating that from scratch would be difficult and expensive. This gun is going to MURDER the AR 15 market overnight. It takes all the same toys and is fundamentally a better rifle.

I beg to disagree. It is smart to use the AR parts, from a cost-savings standpoint, but I'd wager that Sig will not sell nearly as many 556 rifles than had they left it traditional. Purists and gun nuts have been wanting a REAL 55X since 1989, and this isn't it. I like the new gun, but many many folks do NOT.

Here's a great thread to read gut-reactions:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=434694

And, it will definately NOT hurt the AR market, at all, not even a little bit. As good as the design is, it's not going to impact the AR market signifigantly.

If I'm wrong, and I'm not, I'll gladly come back to this thread in 5 years when AR companies are out of business or suffering and admit my stupidity.

 

[Greg Bell]

The last of them, I promise!

556 Swat with Hk 416 diopter, front end and mag

Sig 556 Pistol

 

[mmike87]

The gun has a PLASTIC front rail set molded into the front handguard!



***, over?

 

[Master Blaster]

This gun is going to MURDER the AR 15 market overnight. It takes all the same toys and is fundamentally a better rifle.

Actually its not a better rifle, and the AR market wont even feel it.

As far as it being more reliable, just out of curiosity what army involved in world wide combat operations has been using it in the field for the last 20 years?????? The SWISS army

Let me know when it passes the USArmy field test.

I can right now change the upper on an AR-15 in about 15 seconds, I can go from a varmint heavy barrel with a sighted in long range scope, to a pistol length upper in 9mm, and anything in between, with any kind of optic already sighted in and ready to go. Thats some thing the sig simply cannot do.
I dont know how solid the mounting platform is on the SIG rifle do you????

Where is my Grenade launcher????? I dont see one on the sig.

It may very well be a great rifle but will it end up like the SHR 970? ( Hint a very nice hunting rifle which makes any remington 700 look like a piece of Garbage) That SIG introduced at the shot show a few years ago, and which sold for the same price as a 700BDL. The one you could change calibers and barrels on with a screw driver. I have one its a wonderful rifle 60 degree bolt lift, detachable mag, unbelievable adjustible trigger, floated and bedded with bedding blocks.

Yet they did not sell, even though you were getting a $1600 swiss rifle (that sells well in Europe at that price)for $489.

I already have a .308 and a .223 saiga and RAA has imported more of them.

 

[mmike87]

This gun is going to MURDER the AR 15 market overnight. It takes all the same toys and is fundamentally a better rifle.

Whoa there - has anyone even shot it yet? Personally, I LOVE my AR and think it's a great rifle by any definition. Nothings perfect, but modern AR's rock, IMO.

Yes, you can mount the same "toys" to the plastic rails in the front.

The rifle looks nice, but I expect better furniture on a $1300 rifle. Especially a SIG.

 

[Beav]

Although I would rather have a 550 its not going to stop me from getting a 556. I'll probably end up putting a magpul or vltor on it and I might replace the handguard eventually if that funky ribbing doesn't grow on me.

It figures that this rifle would come out right after I sold off a bunch of my handguns to make my collection more practical. I told myself I would stop buying firearms and put in more range time. I mean I already have a Daewoo, so I do have a gas piston 223, but heck its a SIG so I have no choice, right? Now if FN starts making civilian SCARs I might lose it.

 

[KadicDeshi]

a magpul would look beefier:

Mr. Tuttle, darn you for putting that up.

The SIGForum pic did absolutely nothing for me. *Yawn* "Another .223, whoopitydoo!"

But that magpul just somehow looks...right. I have never before had an urge to purchase a .223 rifle. Now, I do.

So darn you, sir!

Barrett

 

[TexasRifleman]

I beg to disagree. It is smart to use the AR parts, from a cost-savings standpoint, but I'd wager that Sig will not sell nearly as many 556 rifles than had they left it traditional. Purists and gun nuts have been wanting a REAL 55X since 1989, and this isn't it. I like the new gun, but many many folks do NOT.

Everyone is missing the point of this weapon. SIG doesn't care if they make gun nuts happy.

This rifle exists so that SIG can do package bids to LE agencies.
That is why S&W now has an AR.

With all the Homeland Security money out there, a manufacturer that can offer handgun, patrol rifle, maintenance, and armorer training is going to have a leg up in the bidding.

Using AR parts means that agencies that want to buy from SIG don't have to resupply with all new webbing, magazines, etc. It has nothing to do with cost savings to SIG. Agencies have been training with AR style stocks for years. It would be crazy to introduce an entirely new system.

SIG is just playing nice by selling to non LEOs, but the real market for this is most certainly not a bunch of gun nuts on Arfcom.

 

[rister]

Where is my Grenade launcher?????

 

[ny32182]

While this rifle may cut into the similarly priced high end factory AR market a little bit (factory Colt, LMT guns, etc) there is absolutely no way to kill the AR market with anything. Trying to kill the AR market would go a lot like trying to kill the 1911 market.

While I certainly intend to buy one, I have some sneaking suspicions that they aren't going to sell as many of these as they think they are. Even though this rifle has no competition on the market today (in terms of being a high quality 5.56mm semi-auto that isn't an AR, it has no peer), at the end of the day, it doesn't do anything that an AR doesn't do. After a good bit of initial hoopla, I think they might have trouble getting them out the door. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Nightfall]

Count me as interested. Once some brave early adopters have put it through its paces, I'll give it some consideration. If it performs well, I can see myself with a Sig 556 instead of a gas-piston AR in the future. I can't imagine finding a complete, high quality, railed, gas-piston AR for $1200 MSRP.

 

[Fingolfin]

I think it's a good start. Hopefully Sig will offer more variants and options down the road, along with the aftermarket sector putting out accessories.

I don't think of it as a US civilian 55x rifle, I think of it as a new American made Sig rifle based on the 55x system. I believe it will be successful, but the AR business isn't going under anytime soon because of it.

 

[boofus]

Doesn't even look like a SG55x series rifle. I hope the traditional handguards and stock can be retrofitted to that monstrosity.

 

[Ian]

By golly, it's a Daewoo K2!

 

[Langenator]

Is it just me, or did they put the flash suppresor on upside down?

On the M16A2/4 and M4, the solid bit goes on the bottom, to reduce the dust signature when firing in the prone.

 

[Greg Bell]

quit your whining, the stock is swapable...

From Sigforum

1) The stock is swapable for a factory folder.

2) The pistol grip is current 550 issue.

3) The trigger is just as good as we were hoping it would be.

4) They're offering a Precision Rifle as a fourth configuration of the 556.

P.S. Lang, you get a Sherlock Holmes hat for being the one millionth person to point out the upside down flash Suppressor

 

[Langenator]

Excuse me for not reading the actual text on SigForums...

 

[Pilot]

I like it. I want one.