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I'm considering a new CCW, but want something SLIM and in at least a 9mm. I'm currently considering the following, in no particular order:

1. Kel Tec PF9
2. S&W 3913
3. Rohrbaugh

So what should I add to my list to research before buying? I already have a Kel-Tec P32, which is great for deep concealment but I want something more. I also have a Beretta 92FS and S&W 4506 which are concealable in the small of my back, but not comfortable when sitting/driving. My S&W Model 60 is also in the mix for front pocket carry, but I'd like more than 5 rounds in my primary CCW.

I like the new subcompact PX4 as well as the mini cougar, but both of those are pretty fat in the grip for my taste.

Also, I really like the hammer and decocker on my Beretta, and I'm pretty sure the 39xx has that option available, so it's a front runner right now I guess.
 
I'm a big fan of S&W 3rd gens, and have a serious jonesing to own both a 39xx pistol (not to mention a 69xx pistol). An FBI agent I met in September is still grandfathered to carry a 6906 and plans to retire before they force him to carry a Glock.

That said, take a look at the Taurus PT-709. I'm personally about 99.9% sold on getting one, despite the fact that it's a Taurus. Most (not all) of the folks on here that have one really like them, to the point they're willing to send them back to Taurus if there are issues. (Just do a search on this forum for the PT-709.) And the price point is pretty good, too.
 
I have the KelTec in 9mm and have looked at the Ruger SR9.

KelTec is small, light and does a good job BUT I had to do a trigger job on it since the double action only was HEAVY.

The Ruger is very slim and lays flat against the body. It, too, is in 9mm with more shots than the KelTec.
 
of the ones you've mentioned, i've found the S&W 3913 to be excellent for accuracy and reliability...plus it has heritage as the factory version of the old ASP from the 70's

if you're comfortable with a SAO pistol, you really can't do better than the Springfield EMP...it's basically a Custom Shop pistol at a production price.

if you're not uncomfortable buying used (LE trade-ins), the Sig P-6 (LE version of the 225) is a great buy for around $350...and then maybe the finest compact 9mm available, the H&K P-7 which i think is still available for <$550

the P-6 is DA/SA, accurate and reliable

the P-7 is SA, but is cocked by squeezing the grip, very accurate due to it's fixed barrel and very reliable because of it's straight feed mag...plus it allows a longer barrel
 
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If the S&W 3913 is to your liking, I'd suggest the HK P2000sk, which is about the same size, weight, width and height. With it's adjustable grip panels, it should prove to fit your hand.

The P2000sk has the hammer and decocker you're looking for, super reliability and carries two more rounds. To me it is more naturally pointable than the S&W 39 series, but that of course depends on the individual.

Kahrs are another brand to investigate. The Kahr T9 would be the closest competitor to the 3913 with it's 8 round mag and all metal construction, but other models would fit the bill too.

The Walther P99c would be well worth a look-see. A very competent CCW.
 
1. Kel Tec PF9
2. S&W 3913
3. Rohrbaugh
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A somewhat wide disparity of sizes. But, although it is the largest in height and length (but still very slender), I am a big fan of the 3913 series. It will be the easiest to actually shoot and will eat anything you feed it. Not on your list but also highly recommended is the Kahr K9.
 
It's hard to compare the three.

The Rohrbaugh is by far the smallest 9mm, but its $1200. It is not designed to withstand thousands of rounds; they state run a couple mags through it and its broken in.

I have been on a hunt for a Kel tec PF9, but every distributor in the country is out and Kel tec says they are 6 months behind demand.

My vote goes for the Kel tec PF9. Cheaper than the Rohrbaugh and many have ran thousands of rounds through em without problems. It is also smaller and lighter than the S&W 3919. The PF9 and Rohrbaugh are almost pocket 9mm's.
 
I've got a Taurus PT-709. About 600 rounds through it with no gun related issues. Just a skosh bigger and heavier than the PF-9, and a little more expensive. But it has a manual safety and 'second strike' trigger. It's my carry gun.

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3913. Sounds like you already have the pocket gun angle covered with your Kel-tec. The Smith has a better trigger and is more durable than the PF9.
 
That Taurus sure looks interesting, as do all the comments in the threads mentioned above (which I've been following with interest).

Until I have personal experience with one, however, I'm going to go with a +1 on the 3913. Those are proven, and quite nice for carry.
 
Sig p239! Should be about as slim as your S&W, and it's available in .40 or .357 SIG if that's your huckleberry.
 
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Have you considered the Kahr PM9?

With either a 6 or 7 round magazine (+1 in the chamber), it affords you a VERY reasonably sized 9mm. It's smaller than my J-Frame Airweight by a fair amount and weighs under a pound. The DAO trigger is smooth (and I'm not even a fan of them) and easy to run. It has become my go to CCW since purchasing it earlier this year. I have two others (the aforementioned S&W and a XD45 compact) that also see CCW use but not nearly as much now that I have the PM9. And the PM9 has no problems with your shooting it....a LOT. It's at home in a pocket holster or one at your waistband.

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If you want Slim

Look at the Walther PPS, the most slim gun available that I have seen. Also, consider the Kahr PM9. I own both and they are great. The PM9 is more of a pocket pistol, and is also much lighter than the metal PPS. However, the PPS works perfectly if you carry IWB.
 
Wow!

All great inputs, THANKS!! After reading and researching here, I'm definitely adding the Sig 239, Walther and HK suggestions to my comparison list.

The Springfield EMP looks cool, but if I'm gonna get something like that I might as well get a micro 1911 in .45. :D

After some though, the Rohrbaugh is being crossed off - too much $$ for not enough gun. I'm also crossing off the Kel-Tec PF9 because like JN01 says, I already have the pocket carry covered with my P32.

I'll try to remember to post my decision after I've bought one. There is a gun show here Nov. 28, so I don't find what I want in a local shop, I'll wait until then.

Thanks again!!
 
If you want to go pocket nine millimeter, the keltec pf-9 is excellent. They will fit right into your pocket and conceal perfectly. They are like little dragons. As far as I know, the pf-9 is the smallest slimmest 9mm available. The Kahr's are considerably more expensive and still not quite as compact.

The PF-9 will vastly upgrade your firepower for a pocket gun, as compared to the p-32.
 
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I've got a Taurus PT-709. About 600 rounds through it with no gun related issues. Just a skosh bigger and heavier than the PF-9, and a little more expensive. But it has a manual safety and 'second strike' trigger. It's my carry gun.

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Dear god, put it away. I thought my PPS was ugly, then I saw that.;)
 
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