The RIGHT Mags for 1911's

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StrikeEagle

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For some time the most knowlegeable 1911 guys on the forum have been saying how critical a good magazine is to proper function of this great pistol. The recommendations seem to be:

1) 7 Rounders
2) Flat Follower with Dimple
3) 11 pound Wolff Spring Upgrade
4) Metalform manufacture

In other words, the mag as it was designed by Browning with a good stiff spring. I agree with all of that and have found that the be the clearest way to reliable functioning. Well, just so you know, Wolff Mags meet all these criteria. My order from them came today and I'm delighted. :)

http://www.gunsprings.com

There's an 800 number there, too. Nice ladies work the phones and will help you get what you're looking for. Make sure you spec the 11 pound spring. They offer the mags in quite a few configurations.

Hope this info is helpful to y'all who didn't have it.

StrikeEagle

PS I don't work for these guys! LOL :p
 
That's funny. I use nothing but 8 round mags in my 1911s, and I never have any problems. Most of my mags are Wilsons, or McCormicks with Wilson springs and followers (polymer). The only mags I have ever had trouble with were 7 round mags that were original equipment with the pistols.

The 1911 design is somewhat susceptible to misfunctions caused by magazines. In my experience, though, quality aftermarket mags work well, even the 8 round variety.
 
I've owned dozens of 1911's and hundreds of mags. over the years.I have not experienced any problems with any mags. except a few Wilson 7 rds. failing to lock open on the last round or having the floor plate squirt off the front while still firing.Even cheap $7.00 gunshow cheapies work fine for me.Maybe I'm just lucky with 1911's and un-lucky with plastic(fill in the blank a few dozen times) firearms.??tom. :confused:
 
Wolff Mags

StrikeEagle...I've heard some things about the Wolff mags...all good so far.
A little curious. Are the baseplates on those mags pre-drilled for slam pads? :scrutiny:

As for 8-round mags...Some pistols will run with'em...or they seem to. Some choke like a pukin' buzzard. -->Across the board<-- in any given out of the box pistol, the 7-rounders mentioned above will provide the highest chance of consistent reliability assuming that there isn't somethin' else wrong with the gun. Too many times I've "fixed" a Jammin' Jenny by handing the owner a few good mags and tellin' him to report back...and the problems disappeared...and his magazines were new, name-brand 8-round sticks. They were usually mystified that the super-duper double throwdown magazines were the cause of all their woes.Use'em if ya like'em. I won't.
 
Folks on the API List have reported good results with Tripp Research's Cobra mags (see here for details). Recently there was a batch of these magazines shipped with wrongly heat-treated springs, which broke easily. According to List feedback, Tripp is falling over themselves to replace these springs, and delivering excellent customer service. That's another recommendation for them, in my book. They're expensive, but they're claimed to be about the best available right now. YMMV, as always...
 
As usual I go with Tuner. The 8-round magazines are made using the same size box as 7-rounder's. That in effect subtracts about 1/2" of space that would usually be reserved for the spring and follower. To make it work (when it does) you have to shorten both the spring and follower leg(s). If the over-strssed spring takes a set, one is asking for a last-round jam.

Now if one is playing games I see not great fault in this. But I think it's not too bright to use gamer stuff when playing for real.

Just my opinion of course, but it's backed with a lot of experience. So is Tuner's. :scrutiny:
 
If 8 round mags work, feel free to use them.

If you prefer the "JMB ordained" 7 round mag, use those.

Whatever you do, don't think saving a couple bucks and buying cheapo magazines is a good idea.

My 1911 works great with Metalform 7 round mags and has yet to malfunction with CMC PowerMags (8 round). I carry the PowerMags. Just make sure that you test at the range whatever you plan to rely on in a negative social setting.
 
Only probley i have had with any mags are the super cheep no name ones not holding the slide open after last round but other with the

Wilsons
Metal forms
Novaks
CMC
\Old Stock colts

All work for me
 
Tuner

StrikeEagle...I've heard some things about the Wolff mags...all good so far. A little curious. Are the baseplates on those mags pre-drilled for slam pads?

I got the Tactical Edge pads. Not annoyingly thick like some, but makes it easy to give a good shove in seating the magazine. Looking at them, the pad is held on by two phillips screws. Everything seems sturdy and in order with no wiggles or play anywhere. Solid feeling.

They also come with the annoyingly thick pads and with no pad at all. What do you think... sound ok to you? What kind do you favor?

http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/ColtNF.html#magazine

Pictures are not working for me, but that's the page. :)

StrikeEagle

hehe amazing how happy I've been all day over such a simple thing as nice magazines. :D
 
While I do have some 8rd Wilson 47Ds that have been reliable as all get out.

But when it comes to SHTF, bet your life on it reliability, I stand with Tuner. Give me 7rd Colts just like Mr. Browning designed em.
 
Trippin' on the Cobra

A tactical 7-round mag??? Forsooth! Who woulda thunkit?

No surprise there Striker. Good mags are the heart of the gun. Many people mistakenly consider them as accessories...but they're an integral part of the system. Like an algebraic equation...If they're wrong, the rest of the thing is wrong from that point forward. It's been my understanding that Metalform is the contractor for Tripp. Just wondered if there was anything that could possibly identify that.

Cobras...I had the chance to test and evaluate 2 Tripp Cobras a while back, at the request of a forum member who was gonna retail the line. Very well-made magazines...High-quality throughout. The concept is a good one...
Bringing the round a little higher to feed position to address the breakover to hroizontal, giving it a straighter shot into the chamber. It's a quick-fix for a gun that has RTB problems that are related to the feed ramp geometry due to
the frame to barrel specs being a little less than optimum. In guns that are right, they're not necessary. It's a choice...Spend the bucks to fix the gun so that it will run with any decent mag, or spend the bucks for magazines that basically use a band-aid to cover the underlying problem. I prefer to straighten out the gun. Not comfortable with needing to rely on a trick magazine to make the gun reliable, but not everybody is comfortable with modifying or altering the frame in order to make it happen...or they don't
want to throw money at a smith to do it. The Cobras are ideal for these situations if they're reliable in every other aspect.

I tested the mags in a dozen of my pistols that were dead reliable with all my beater mags...Mostly Metalforms, with some factory Colts and 18 USGI "Hardball" magazines. There was even an old Devel mag that I had long since swapped out the follower in for a standard 7-round set-up. Dead reliable. The Cobras' springs were a little soft for my tastes, and one produced a last-round bolt-over-base FTF in two pistols. Expected...The spring still has to be up to the task of getting the last round into position.

Two instances...one per mag...of the last round jumping the follower in
two guns. Slide locked with the round loose in the port. Not expected, but no surprise...Springs! Springs!

Both produced intermittent failure to lock the slide in about half the pistols.
One time it would...next time it wouldn't. Likely related to the spring, because there were no instances of the follower shelf climbing over the slidestop lug. The spring just wasn't fast enough to catch the slide...and
none of my guns are oversprung. In the ones that failed, switching to a 14-pound spring cured all except one...so it was in the mag timing. Good springs
would address the problem, but standard Wolff springs don't fit the underside of the followers.

I understand that there's an option with the Cobras in that the followers are offered with a choice of three different slidestop shelf locations that allows a little tuning for that particular problem. The ones that I had may have had the shelves at the lowest point, and the next step up may have given different results. One step Evidently, Virgil recognized that this might be a necessity with some guns' specs. Smart move, but it still forces the gun to rely on proprietary magazines. Lose or damage the magazines, and you're outta luck.

The raised feeding position does work, though. My guns feed so slick that it actually made me a little uneasy at how hard the slide went to battery when
loading from slidelock. They felt and sounded like they were falling on an empty chamber, and I was a little concerned about beating up the lower lug, slidestop, and its hole in the frame. So, if you have a pistol that fails to return to battery frequently due to stem bind that you can't correct with extractor tension, these will very likely alleviate that problem nicely in most guns. There's still the matter of the springs, though. Browning specified a load rating on the springs for some very good reasons. Dinking around with the spring rates in the gun...ANY spring rate... is a crapshoot, and could cause some problems. Not always, but often enough to approach with the thought in mind that this may not work well.

Cheers all!
 
I've found that CobraMags tend to be a little wider in the body than other brands. That meant that they tended to drag a little in my Para Ordnance 1911 magwells. When I hit the mag release button, I like my mags to drop free, so I went back to Wilson and CMC. In other 1911's, though, they seemed to work great.
 
My Carry mags are the Wolff with the small pad I really like them and well made. I also got several I picked up while in Army years ago and their still running along. I go with the 7 rounders for carry . I have a 10 round shooting star for playing but not for SD.
The closer you keep to the orginal design of the 1911, the more relieable the pistol. My most relieable 45 is a 1941USGI followed by a Stock(feed ramp polished in 70s) 1972 Combat Commander. My others are IMPROVED 1911's and required tinkering to run as they should. Of course their not COLTS either
 
My Factory Colt mags work better than anything else I've tried... Chip McCormicks are a close second.

I've had ZERO luck with so called 'surplus GI' magazines or Remington Rand Magazines.

Not all mags are created equal.
 
I have always ran Wilson 8 round mags loaded with 7 rounds in all my 1911s and have zero complaints.

-Brickboy240
 
I am using Mec-Gars in my officers model. I have put alot of rounds through them and like them alot. I managed to get 5 7-rnd officers mags with bumpers for ~ $50 shipped off ebay.

I have had bad luck with Brolin mags.

2 Cents!
 
Never had a problem with 7s, 8s, or 10s in my Colt or SA. But my experience is limited to CMCs, Colt, SA, and Wilson mags...

Unlikely to buy anything else now because I have plenty on hand and consider new specimens of even these brands suspect until I've put a couple dozen rounds through 'em. Test everything.
 
Dr.Rob:

>> I've had ZERO luck with so called 'surplus GI' magazines or Remington Rand Magazines. <<

Remington-Rand made 1911A1 .45 pistols for the U.S. Government between 1942-45, and by the end of the war it was acknowledged that their product was the best, and submitted for the lowest cost. However they didn't make the magazines that went into them. They came from various sub-contractors, and were not marked in any way identifying them with the gun manufacturer.
 
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