Transporting Primers/Powder when Moving

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Alex G

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Hello all,

My wife and I will be moving soon and we’re wondering if and what regulations are as far as transporting primers and powder in our vehicle? There are roughly 20 lbs of powder, in 1lb jugs and 10-12k primers.
Thanks in advance, if anyone has experience here please chime in!
 
Moving yourself? keep the primers in original containers, ditto powder. Box the primers and powders separately, place in a secure spot in the vehicle so that they don't get thrown around, then proceed with to your destination. It's not a big deal.
If you use a commercial mover, check with them for the rules.
 
I'll be facing the same scenario in just over a year. I have numerous long arms, handguns and reloading supplies including black powder that has to move. The plan is to make a separate trip only for these items alone in pickup truck (no household items). Reason being is I have to drive 950 miles and don't want a towed trailer to break down or otherwise have issues when it's loaded with such items.

As mentioned above, all components will be secured in sturdy, locked containers stowed such that they won't bounce. All guns unloaded and secured in their own locked case. No stopping for anything but gas and very fast pit stops, as much daylight driving as possible. About 16 hours by the route/speed I use factoring in stops.
 
splattergun said:
Moving yourself? keep the primers in original containers, ditto powder. Box the primers and powders separately, place in a secure spot in the vehicle so that they don't get thrown around, then proceed with to your destination. It's not a big deal.
If you use a commercial mover, check with them for the rules.
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Yep, and we’re moving ourselves so I won’t need to worry about movers.

Do you think there’s a limit on how many primers can be stored in one box or is it just one of those pack it with common sense and you’re fine, things?

No DOT regs I need to be aware of for personal transport?
 
Alex G said:
Yep, and we’re moving ourselves so I won’t need to worry about movers.

Do you think there’s a limit on how many primers can be stored in one box or is it just one of those pack it with common sense and you’re fine, things?

No DOT regs I need to be aware of for personal transport?
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That depends on the local state regulations.

Different, but when we have lacquer (explosive/flammable vapors) delivered, the trailers dont have to display a flammable placard unless over a certain weight of HazMat is onboard. 20 gallons is not required to have the placard.
 
I have to do the same thing soon, I don't know the legal answer, but I am going to break it up into small portions and make many trips, I'll already be making many trips anyway. Pack it good in an appropriate container. Plastic totes with hinged tops and blankets should work fine.
 
Alex G said:
Hello all,

My wife and I will be moving soon and we’re wondering if and what regulations are as far as transporting primers and powder in our vehicle? There are roughly 20 lbs of powder, in 1lb jugs and 10-12k primers.
Thanks in advance, if anyone has experience here please chime in!
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Your good on the powder. I just moved over 100 pounds and had to make multiple trips to be legal.
If at all possible, have primers and powder in separate vehicles.
 
Alex G said:
Hello all,

My wife and I will be moving soon and we’re wondering if and what regulations are as far as transporting primers and powder in our vehicle? There are roughly 20 lbs of powder, in 1lb jugs and 10-12k primers.
Thanks in advance, if anyone has experience here please chime in!
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They have a wooden box regulation and amount that you can legally drive with. search on THR, we had a headed thread about it
 
The following information comes from SAAMI Doc.

11-3 Smokeless Propellants
11-3.1
Quantities of smokeless propellants not exceeding 25 lb.
(11.3 kg) in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of
Transportation, may be transported in a private vehicle.
11-3.2
Quantities of smokeless propellants exceeding 25 lb.
(11.3 kg) but not exceeding 50 lb. (22.7 kg), transported in a pri-
vate vehicle, shall be transported in a portable magazine having
wood walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.
11-3.3
Transportation of more than 50 lb. (22.7 kg) of smokeless
propellants in a private vehicle is prohibited.

11-5 Small Arms Primers
11-5.1
Small arms primers shall be transported or stored in
containers approved by the US Department of Transportation.

11-5.2
Transportation of small arms primers shall comply
with US Department of Transportation Regulations.
11-5.3
No more than 25,000 small arms primers may be
transported in a private vehicle.
 

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Perfect. Thank you gentlemen! Will have the powder and primers in separate locations, and properly cushioned to prevent any sharp impacts, as well as in good packaging.
 
Alex G said:
Perfect. Thank you gentlemen! Will have the powder and primers in separate locations, and properly cushioned to prevent any sharp impacts, as well as in good packaging.
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don’t forget a wooden box
 
LaneP said:
I'll be facing the same scenario in just over a year. I have numerous long arms, handguns and reloading supplies including black powder that has to move. The plan is to make a separate trip only for these items alone in pickup truck (no household items). Reason being is I have to drive 950 miles and don't want a towed trailer to break down or otherwise have issues when it's loaded with such items.

As mentioned above, all components will be secured in sturdy, locked containers stowed such that they won't bounce. All guns unloaded and secured in their own locked case. No stopping for anything but gas and very fast pit stops, as much daylight driving as possible. About 16 hours by the route/speed I use factoring in stops.
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A note on that; a buddy did the same when he moved a load to Oklahoma from here in Ca.
He left his guns in the safe in the house while he took a van to Ok. with the intention of coming straight back to pick those up and move them.

He was in New Mexico the next morning. His house alarm monitor called with an intrusion alarm, by the time the sheriffs Dept arrived his safe was gone with all his guns. It seems the local fools saw his u haul leaving and thought they’d break in to see what may have been left.

Same thing happened to me when my ex moved out. I was up north with our daughter so she wouldn’t be around as mom moved with her relatives and a u haul. Some local crooks broke in that night and took a bunch of my stuff.

8 years later, he still hadn’t gotten one of the stolen guns back, 25 years later and I haven’t gotten any of my stuff back either.

Be careful if you’re leaving guns in a house while you move out, I’d hate to see you get victimized too.

Safe travels! :thumbup:
 
Riomouse911 said:
A note on that; a buddy did the same when he moved a load to Oklahoma from here in Ca.
He left his guns in the safe in the house while he took a van to Ok. with the intention of coming straight back to pick those up and move them.

He was in New Mexico the next morning. His house alarm monitor called with an intrusion alarm, by the time the sheriffs Dept arrived his safe was gone with all his guns. It seems the local fools saw his u haul leaving and thought they’d break in to see what may have been left.

Same thing happened to me when my ex moved out. I was up north with our daughter so she wouldn’t be around as mom moved with her relatives and a u haul. Some local crooks broke in that night and took a bunch of my stuff.

8 years later, he still hadn’t gotten one of the stolen guns back, 25 years later and I haven’t gotten any of my stuff back either.

Be careful if you’re leaving guns in a house while you move out, I’d hate to see you get victimized too.

Safe travels! :thumbup:
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Sorry to hear that. Good info and something to keep in mind.
 
The last time that I moved I just boxed them up, put them on the back seat and drove. I only moved 30 miles but I didn't worry about the legal issues. Not suggesting that others ignore any legalities, thats just what I did.
 
I traveled from ny back to montana in november with 165 lbs of powder and 30k primers in plastic totes in the storage bay of our class c motor home this year . Good thing we didn't get pulled over and searched might of had a, bit of an issue
 
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