When do you think they'll come for your guns?

[jeepmor]

I know this is a touchy subject, but I like controversy.

When do you think our government will become so brash as to come door to door to take our weapons out of our hands.

If you read a book like Behold a Pale Horse Rider, it becomes apparent that it is on the agenda horizon for our government. Probably not from the Republicans, but if we get Hillary this next time around....look out.

Please don't provide the "cold dead hands" mantra that Heston is well known for, but actually think about how this country's government has spent the past 200+ years eroding the rights that our founding fathers fought so dearly to put in place.

I mean really, we went to war for Independence over a 3% taxation without representation. On average, we now give the government, state and feds, something like 39% of our income. And they still can't balance the budget and always need more. That's 39% of the money for roughly 270 million people in this country, the richest country in the world, and they still can't get it right.

Can you say FLAT TAX FOR ALL?

jeepmor

 

[Stevie-Ray]

Please don't provide the "cold dead hands" mantra that Heston is well known for, but actually think about how this country's government has spent the past 200+ years eroding the rights that our founding fathers fought so dearly to put in place.

Why not? If you don't believe in something worth dying for, what's the sense in living?

 

[f4t9r]

What guns, I do not even like guns they are dangerous

Can not see it happening any time soon , I could be wrong

 

[cbsbyte]

Within twenty years. By a UN mandate.

 

[McCall911]

Guns?
We got no guns!
We don't got to show you no stinkin guns!

 

[cracked butt]

When do you think our government will become so brash as to come door to door to take our weapons out of our hands.

They won't need to, people will turn them in voluntarily in incremental form.

I mean really, we went to war for Independence over a 3% taxation without representation. On average, we now give the government, state and feds, something like 39% of our income. And they still can't balance the budget and always need more. That's 39% of the money for roughly 270 million people in this country, the richest country in the world, and they still can't get it right.

Difference is that we now have representation for our taxation. Too bad the population either votes for morons or for sugar daddies.

 

[geekWithA.45]

When do you think our government will become so brash as to come door to door to take our weapons out of our hands.

Hopefully, either

A) Before I'm too old to enjoy the proceedings properly

or

B) Never

 

[palerider1]

it will never happen in my lifetime and i'm only 41. the NRA is too strong and there are too many people that would flip out. i would move to another country if that ever happens. the right to bear arms is in the fabric of our constitution.

 

[Maxwell]

The question is not when they will come for your guns.
Its when will you no longer be able to get new ones.

Its far more likely they will put in a bit that says "only weapons made before 20xx" then leave you stuck trying to find your next weapon or the parts and ammunition you need for it.

Just look at the full auto market. Inflated prices growing worse every day.
Soon you wont be able to afford anything, and if you can you wouldnt be able to shoot it.

 

[Standing Wolf]

They won't need to, people will turn them in voluntarily in incremental form.

How much resistance have we seen in Taxachussets, the People's Republic of California, Maryland, et cetera?

 

[rick_reno]

Never. We've got the NRA fighting for us - and with their clout this'll never happen. As long as we keep Wayne LaPiere in nice suits we have nothing to worry about.

 

[chaim]

How much resistance have we seen in Taxachussets, the People's Republic of California, Maryland, et cetera?

I don't know about MA and CA but here in MD we have never had to turn in any guns. The MD legislature has banned certain guns, and many handguns have never made it onto the approved list, but they have always grandfathered currently owned guns. In fact, I can move to another state for a year or two, legally buy guns not legal in MD, and move back to MD with all my guns. I just wouldn't be able to sell the guns that aren't legal for sale in MD to someone in state. MD anti-gun politicians have been shrewd. People ignore not being allowed to buy something they don't currently own a lot more than having to turn in their possessions.

The question is not when they will come for your guns.
Its when will you no longer be able to get new ones.

Its far more likely they will put in a bit that says "only weapons made before 20xx" then leave you stuck trying to find your next weapon or the parts and ammunition you need for it.

Just look at the full auto market. Inflated prices growing worse every day.
Soon you wont be able to afford anything, and if you can you wouldnt be able to shoot it.

I think he's got it 100%. It will first be banning certain types of guns from sale not ownership (maybe a revamped AWB), then certain ammo (not sure what will be added after the AP ammo, maybe HPs), then more guns, then eventually all guns, then eventually all ammo and components. Most people won't care or even notice.

 

[beerslurpy]

Getting to contraband is still very difficult thanks to the 4th and 5th amendments.

Getting to guns is doubly difficult because of the 2nd, because the people possessing them are naturally armed, and beleive that they have a right to possess them.

As such, confiscation will be fraught with much difficulty and bloodshed.

They will need a lot more cops, a lot less civil rights and a lot less gun owners.

More likely they will just not allow certain things to be sold anymore and slowly they will disappear from circulation. Look at machine guns. Speaking of which, this is why we have to beat back all the restrictions from the past 100 years.

 

[Mongo the Mutterer]

I agree with the posts which point to incrementalism.

Watch what they have done in the past, they NEVER say they want to ban "your hunting gun" its only ...

EVIL Machine Guns

EVIL Assault Rifles

EVIL 50 caliber Rifles

ad infinitum.

When they bring the issue up to a vote (see Brazil) they get their a** handed to them, so look for creeping incrementalism.

You can never give the liberals an inch, an 1/8 inch, a centimeter... They will always want more. Whenever I hear the words "I'm sure we all can agree...", I immediately say "No, we can't"...

 

[Rock45]

Guns?
Oh, I have sold the few that I had over the last few years so as to show my cooperation with the .gov and make it easier for them when the time comes..."no need to search my place, fellas!"

Bryan

 

[goosegunner]

They just have to figure out a way that all gun owners can be labeled unpatriotic, I would guess you have European-style gun regulation right after your next big terrorist attac. Followed by the usual 'if you want a gun join the army/special/forces/SS/SA/Volksturm/etc.'.

 

[middy]

Never.

 

[Michigander]

Tomorrow.

 

[xd9fan]

They just have to figure out a way that all gun owners can be labeled unpatriotic, I would guess you have European-style gun regulation right after your next big terrorist attac. Followed by the usual 'if you want a gun join the army/special/forces/SS/SA/Volksturm/etc.'.

Even the GOP plays with fire on this.

we cant have everybody having guns because its too hard for the Govt (with the war on terror) to detect the real terrorists from armed zealot americans hell bent on dreaming about the Rights of man and living in the 17th Century, so we must pass very tight gun control laws that will restrict gun ownership to keep you and your children safe!!

But you are right the best and fastest way would be to find how you could labeled gun owners as anti-american and anti-security with the war on terror.

This if you want a gun join the army theme has a very strong base in america already. Nothing is "offical" or done correctly till the U.S. Govt does it. Look at the border fight with the Minuteman. Well they have no authority their not a real agency so this can not take place. Most americans answers to any problem is that the Govt must do something...or "thier ought to be a law".

 

[Hockeydude]

I don't think it will happen soon. But the public is being conditioned for it with political correctness and blissninny policies. Many people believe that the 2nd ammendment doesn't count as one of our natural rights. I hope people do fight back if the SHTF, but odds will be heavily against gun owners when the media will lables it as "right wing radicals shoot innocent police men"

 

[chopinbloc]

0345

when will they come? when you're deep in your REM cycle. they'll take your dog(s) out with a silenced ruger 10/22, set up a good, solid perimeter, smash the door in and shoot you, your wife and your children before you can even give up. headline will read "armed terrorist militiamen fatally wounded in police shootout." see, they learned from mr. weaver that they can be sued if they leave witnesses.

personally, i'm hoping they never kick in my door, 'cause i sold all my guns except my hunting shotgun and my .22 rifle; they'll never ban those, right? well, even if they did, i'm not some kind of miscreant, of COURSE i'll turn 'em in to be cut into scrap for the new leftist sculpture gracing the steps of our state legislature.

anyway, it would be pointless to resist against APCs, helicopter gunships and forward looking infrared because there isn't a single, solitary soldier or policeman who believes in the constitution, right? i mean none of them would refuse to follow immoral and illegal orders, right? well, even if they did, it's not like a .308 round can be administered to a helicopter's engine while it's still turning up on the ground and from quite a long range. i mean, it's not like a person could remove the leadership for those tools of the police state with one well placed shot. it's not like quite a few policemen or soldiers would be happy that their pompous, arrogant, self righteous, bureaucratic ass of a boss didn't quite make it to work.

 

[Gordon Fink]

Never. Mass confiscation is a totally unnecessary step in the disarmament process.

~G. Fink

 

[Camp David]

When do you think they'll come for your guns?

The day after Hillary Clinton's inaugeration!

{I will have already left by then headed north }

 

[GEM]

North to where? Unless you decide to live on the polar ice cap, Canada isn't a gun heaven?

 

[tellner]

I know this is a touchy subject, but I like controversy.
Please don't provide the "cold dead hands" mantra that Heston is well known for, but actually think about how this country's government has spent the past 200+ years eroding the rights that our founding fathers fought so dearly to put in place.

Nice mythology, lousy history. You seem to think that we lived in an idyllic Eden of liberty starting in 1785 and then degenerated to our present sad state. The reality is that there has always been a tension between authority and freedom. Our "guaranteed" freedoms have come and gone. For instance, the expansive view of the First Ammendment that most of us take for granted wasn't enforced by the courts until the 20th century. And it took a lot of blood - literal blood if you're familiar with labor history - to accomplish it. Federal and State governments have always been ready to clamp down on excessive freedom for the wrong sorts of people. Ensuring those liberties takes a lot of hard work, not just clutching your guns and believing that they make you free and safe. It requires *shudder* collective effort and constant vigilance.

Can you say FLAT TAX FOR ALL?

Yes. I can say lots of things that are bad ideas.