When do you think they'll come for your guns?

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The Feds are incredibly dumb but not so super incredibly dumb as to ever try to disarm the populace by force- As time goes by and society becomes more and more passive, the ownership of firearms will eventually dwindle to zero- Each year there are fewer and fewer hunting liscenses issued- Not all of us hunt but it's a fair barometer of the trend- As our children are brainwashed into the pollitically correct spectrum by our educational system, and I use that term ever so loosely, they will become members of what will be termed a "Super Civilized Society"- Any erosion process is slow but sure-
 
Paranoia, while difficult to treat, sometimes is favorably treated by a combination of drugs and psychotherapy. Try some.
 
So, if you're 41 you've been alive during the Gun Control Act of '68, the ban on production of 86, the 922r restrictions, and the AWB of 94 (thankfully repealed, but us gun owners took it. We fussed and fought and managed to get it repealed, but if it had been extended what would we have done differently than what we did from '94 to '04).

Not to mention all the state bans, such as the recent ban in CA on 50s and the import ban on non-sporting barrels.

Yeah, they're Mone Labe'ing all right. And they're not done yet.

Here's the deal--they've proven that the constition is theirs to twist and play with. And if part of the constition doesn't matter to them, none of it does.

Imagine this:
They pass a law that restricts Full Auto ownership by a citizen with a completely clean record.
They include in that law the ability to use wire-taps when they have reasonable suspecion--no warrant required.
They send agents to do door to door searches in a dragnet operation in the same manner that DWI/DUI roadblocks are currently done.
To prevent violent escalation, the law has the provision making it illegal to speak or write an opposing view to the law.

At what point does this law become unconstitional and wrong? That's right, point one. And they didn't hesitate to make that restriction. They'll take them. Slowly perhaps, but they absolutely will take them.
 
Seems to me plenty of leo's from all over the country were willing to help take citizens guns in N.O. just after the hurricaine. Including slamming an 80 year old woman to the floor and dragging her out of her house.

What's a few disasters between friends?
 
Tomorrow. Nostradamus told me personally. :neener:

Pretty unlikely, barring ridiculously catastrophic events, anytime in the near future.
 
They won't come for guns. IF it comes to that,they'll summon you to show up with them, if only to have the advantage of their own home turf.
 
well they'll be knocking on my door after a certain repressive soon to be regime makes an amendment to the constitution eliminating the 2 term limit for the sake of national security. of course they will come to take them because they will declare that i'm conducting illegal and terrorist activity and will come to seize my firearms and WMDs. of course by that point I will have founded America II in my backyard and have U.N. peacekeepers holdin my gates
 
david_the_greek said:
well they'll be knocking on my door after a certain repressive soon to be regime makes an amendment to the constitution eliminating the 2 term limit for the sake of national security. of course they will come to take them because they will declare that i'm conducting illegal and terrorist activity and will come to seize my firearms and WMDs. of course by that point I will have founded America II in my backyard and have U.N. peacekeepers holdin my gates
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anymore room for one gun lover like me?View attachment 34595:rolleyes:
 
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I'm not paranoid, just asking

Some pretty good responses. I have recently learned that it was not only the taxation without representation that started our path to freedom, but moreover England's attempt to confiscate firearms that started the revolution. I'm not a history buff, sorry.

To say it is not on the government agenda is just plain naive. I think there are plenty of examples of this process beginning. It is incremental, and it will continue to ratchet more anti than pro in the future. That's my opinion, I'm having too much fun reloading and plinking to bother doing tons of research on the subject.

And yes, I do believe if an when the time comes for the authorities to attempt seizure, it will be disguised under the new terrorism legislation being mandated. And someday, if our government keeps moving in this direction, guns will be harder to get, ammo will be obsolete, and possessing a firearm, particularly a handgun, will be discouraged. It will start with huge amounts of hoops that we will have to jump through to purchase, and continue on that path. In my opinion, which is worth nothing, but that's my point of view.

jeepmor
 
Well, of course people today would get riled if they took the hunting guns and the self defense pistols--but no one needs those belt fed full autos, so sure, those should be illegal. And those big ole' fifty calibers--those serve no purpose other than killin'. We're all okay with that. And for a while, those black plastic guns with bayonet lugs were illegal (well, new ones) and we didn't like it, but well, you know, whatcha gonna do?

Those high cap pistols--gang bangers use 'em, restrict 'em.

We're getting used to that too. You know what though, those deer rifles in semi auto, 30/06...those are more powerful than those AK-47-SKS Assault Rifles. Who the hell shoots at a deer with SEMI-AUTO. You either hit the deer or he's running at 30MPH. Single shots are all that are really needed, and honestly, if you're not hunting at that particular moment, why not keep them safe at the local police secured gun club?

The gun laws almost invariably get tighter, rarely do we see a victory like the expiration of the AWB. I think that's largely due to the defensive political battle we wage as a gun owner group. We need to be demanding reversal of the 922r restrictions and reinstatement of new mfg of (registered) FA weapons.
 
Mass confiscation on a nationwide is not likely to occur in a couple of generations. It would be too impractical to implement and will get too much political resistance to begin with. Like someone suggests,it'd have to be done incrementally and maybe it could get to the stage of not allowing the sale of new guns. Not likely.
 
Beerslurpey Wrote:

"They will need a lot more cops, a lot less civil rights and a lot less gun owners."

Seems to me that is exactly what they are trying to do. They are always training more police,particulary swat teams and special response teams. Training them to invade the homes of the people,neutralize the inhabitants and take there property. They are practicing on the un-desirables of our country as we speak (see drug dealers)

Less civil rights happen everyday, with draconian friearms laws and excessive taxation,wiretapping and other such attacks on our civil libertys it seems that is a reality as well.

Anti-firearms laws do cause less people to own firearms. Some give up because they don't want to worry about the laws, and more and more politically correct sheep give up there firearms everyday.

All it will take is time and all 3 of these steps will be in an agreement.

Brother in Arms
 
Muddy puppy wrote:
"94 (thankfully repealed, but us gun owners took it. We fussed and fought and managed to get it repealed, but if it had been extended what would we have done differently than what we did from '94 to '04)."

Something you might want to take into consideration. The AWB-94 did not get repealed. It sunseted, it had a clause in it that after 10 years it would die unless again signed into law. Firearms owner did very little to keep that from happening. Many people wrote letters but the truth is it barely passed in the first place, so it was never going to get to the presidents desk. If it would have got to his desk he would have signed it!!! What would have we done differently in 2004? Nothing. Most Americans are to comfortable to just roll with the punches to do anything. If it did pass, many people would not complied with it, but no one would revolt or anything. Many people did not comply allready.

Brother in Arms
 
I checked out the numbers from the BATF site, before it was BATFE. Sales of all types of firearms in the US, for the preceding ten years, ran roughly five million per year.

Sure, there were repeat buyers and multi-gun buyers in the cumulative total. Still, it's a heckuva big number of millions of buyers, any way you cut it.

I'm a little dubious that there will be all that many voluntary turn-ins...

Art
 
We have approximately 80 million legal gunowners in this country. Most of those own more than one. Add into that figure the estimated 45 million illegal gun owners we have soemthing like a 40 to one advantage. If only 10% of gun owners resist it's still a 4 to 1 advantage. They must do it incrementally if they do it. My son might have to worry about this problem but unless Hitlery wins big next time. I lived thru the first Klinton war against the american people and Hitlery is the true believer of the pair.She will come after us and all conservatives hard and fast. All those misguided conservatives who have cheered GWB in his extreme measures for extreme times will be so suprised as Hitlery turns the laws passed meant for terrorists are used against us. Folks it could happen, will it? Only if we let it.
 
"They" have been already...

When do you think our government will become so brash as to come door to door to take our weapons out of our hands.
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For too long already confiscation has been successful by various Tyranny based legislative methods. Why mess with what works??

Eventually enough laws get enacted and all of Society are guilty of some kind of a felony.

Agreeing with Oleg and Art...

So one will be "asked" to turn in Books, Firearms, or anything else so deemed not for Felons to possess.

Once again giving up some more essential liberties for freedoms. [Supposedly]

Once the numbers get 'manageble' as to protect the takers from getting hurt...house to house 'maybe'. Instead easier for Police States to take your wife, kids, parents and toss into a cage - in exchange for any hidden guns one is suspected of having.

Hence the reason - What guns? Bunches of guns out there - this is what scares "Them".

History...interesting tool. "Us" and "Them" can learn from and use it.

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"I have recently learned that it was not only the taxation without representation that started our path to freedom, but moreover England's attempt to confiscate firearms that started the revolution. I'm not a history buff, sorry."

Jeepmor
The when the British went to Concord it was to capture and destroy the Colonial arms stores that where being kept there. This is why the militia mustered on the green in Lexington they ment to slow the progress of British to concord, many not exspecting to see blood shed there.

Brother in Arms
 
beerslurpy said:
More likely they will just not allow certain things to be sold anymore and slowly they will disappear from circulation. Look at machine guns. Speaking of which, this is why we have to beat back all the restrictions from the past 100 years.
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I really don't foresee even this being the major obstacle that most believe it to be. After all, if they can't stop tons of whacky-backy from reaching the hands of those who want it, or nose candy, they are not going to stop a black market in guns. Australia just found that out recently, when they discovered over a million AK's had reached their shores AFTER they had made their country "safe" from civilian owned firearms.

They may cost more, but if it ever comes down to it, one round can net you however many the storm trooper you pot with it might be carrying. PLUS, most likely, a nicer firearm or two.
 
danurve said:
Seems to me plenty of leo's from all over the country were willing to help take citizens guns in N.O. just after the hurricaine. Including slamming an 80 year old woman to the floor and dragging her out of her house.

What's a few disasters between friends?
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A FEW National Guardsmen confiscated firearms. Most of the confiscation was done by California Police who came in to help. Being from California, they didn't recognize the fact that the rest of us live under rule of law.

From my vantage point - not far away at all - the majority of the NOPD was too busy bugging out or looting for themselves to be much of a threat to either good guy or bad guy. Then again, NOPD has long held the record for being the most corrupt police department in the nation. (FBI stats)

They had one lawyer fellow who told them unequivacably that he was NOT giving them his firearms. They left him in peace, knowing they did not have the authority to take them, even if they had the numbers. That, and they weren't sure about how many of them were going to get shot in the process, but it was abundantly clear that it was most likely going to be more than one.
They didn't seem to have too many qualms about turning one little elderly woman upside down, taking her antique revolver, and dumping her in the back of a truck. Then again, she wasn't holding a riot gun at port arms, ready for use when confronted. Seems they like the soft targets a bit better.

This all happened close enough to my back door that I felt winds of 125 mph, so have some idea of what was going on.

Mississippi had armed neighborhood patrols and the full cooperation of law enforcement in their efforts to protect themselves. They still have them, aamof.
 
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