Which will break first: Glock 17, Sig Sauer 226 or HK USP?

Which of these will malfunction/break first if fired 500 rounds per day w/o cleaning?

  • Glock 17

    Votes: 57 27.4%

  • Sig Sauer 226

    Votes: 74 35.6%

  • HK USP

    Votes: 77 37.0%
  • Total voters
    208
  • Poll closed .
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I wouldn't probably be able to wear out any of these guns... I'm too OCD about cleaning and maintaining them. Personally, I don't understand torturing guns just to see when they break. I would rather try and keep them in the best condition possible, and preemptively avoid any failures. It's like my opinion on vehicles. Theoretically, one could drive an S-10 and a Ranger till both broke, just to see which one is more durable, but why ruin an expensive piece of machinery? I would much rather repair and regularly service my truck, and have it running well, than be able to say "My Ranger ran for 9000 miles without an oil change before the engine burned up." JMHO, though. You're welcome to do whatever you want with your gun, and I ain't gonna stop you. Though I might shed a silent tear as I see pictures of mangled HKs, SIGs, and Glocks.... :D
 
meanmrmustard said:
Because it is purely that, speculation. I agree, it's fun as I said. But, none of this bantering and comparison will come to fruition. Fanboys will fight, babies will cry, and feelings may get hurt. I hope not, but it may happen.

Continue the game, boys. But watch the score board. No points will be accumulated, and no one will win.
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^:rolleyes: Please, don't kid a kidder. Done with THIS thread in particular. Later, guys.
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You were right! Someones feelings got hurt.
 
^ Please, don't kid a kidder. Done with THIS thread in particular. Later, guys.
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I wasn't kidding.

Regarding the test having been done:
http://www.volny.cz/glock/html/tested.htm
So I dug around a bit to see if I was remembering wrong. Well, turns out he said he cleaned the gun at least once every 10,000 rounds ("whether it needed it or not," lol). It's not clear if he cleaned it more frequently, as well.

By 100,000 rounds, he claims the gun still had all the original parts.

He admits the slide stopped locking back every 5-6k rounds, unless the mags were replaced. And he admits to having had 1 feed jam during this test at the 30k mark.

Regarding the slide rails:
Common sense. Just look at a Glock slide rail. It's like a 20th of the contact area of a SIG, and it's nickel plated steel sliding on tenifer steel. It looks like they should break off on the first shot. But everyone knows they're strong enough to do the job.

I don't have a SIG, but I do have a 1911. If the slide rails aren't lubed every other now and then, it starts to jam. I think it's obvious that a SIG is more like a 1911 than is a Glock, in this regard. If you think it's just subjective opinion, that's fine with me. I'm not going to change your mind. Maybe you could ask the guys working the rentals at your local range.
 
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I know, I know. Maybe IM the baby. But, unless there's a test of several of the same pistols listed, putting science in the driver seat of a full on test, we will never know. Dropping a Glock from a plane? Lunacy, pure lunacy. I'd prefer to think that every pistol on the list is a winner, because no one is crazy enough to test them in the way the OP described. I need to quit this thread, I'm losing sleep...
 
I'm going along with Murphy's Law, and say the HK, as they would be the hardest to get parts or service from......................
 
This was too easy. These autos aren't even in the same leagues when we talk reliability test.

The Sig will jam on the first mag. Sig is the new Kimber.
The HK USP is well known to not handle as much dirt and grit as a Glock.

No contest, despite prefering to have it's striker kept clean, and it's love of eating springs, the Glock wins.

ps: My trigger finger would need reconstructive surgery after 500 rounds through my G23. Even with a smoother aftermarket trigger shoe.
 
But, unless there's a test of several of the same pistols listed, putting science in the driver seat of a full on test, we will never know.
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There seems to be something about Glocks that make people wanna go out and abuse them in new and interesting ways. Sigs are too pretty to ruin. And besides, they're heavy and solid. People inherently trust things that are heavy and solid. No further testing is needed. :)
 
ps: My trigger finger would need reconstructive surgery after 500 rounds through my G23. Even with a smoother aftermarket trigger shoe.
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Oh I've done more than that in a day with only 6 mags. The trigger doesn't bother you in the least. Truthfully, loading the mags up that many times doesn't bother me. There may have been a blood-blister or two, but overall it wasn't any worse than a night at the gym with regards to my fingers. The only thing hurting at the end of the day was my wallet knowing I had to stockpile that many again.
 
Sig Sauer P226 = 55 parts

HK USP = 54 parts

Glock-17 = 34 parts

There is a reason why Glock engineered the G17 to function with just 34 total parts, the more parts, the more likely a breakage. Further, the Sig is hampered by its aluminum alloy frame, in head to head competition, the polymer frames will on average, far exceed the capability of aluminum alloy. There's a reason why the US Navy is transitioning away from them.
 
If I had to guess...

First - HK
Second - Glock
Third - Sig

HK's just don't seem as robust as Glocks to me, but neither seem like they could outlast a P226 Stainless.
 
It may be the case that among the three I listed the HK breaks first, but who knows. However, I am skeptical the stance that is generally and liberally taken that HK will break first. USP is one tough gun.
 
That is one tough G21.I wish he would torture test a Sig like that.Just to quiet their fan boys.
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Supply me the ammo and I'll go out and buy a sig to test. I've got the time and the location (back yard) to run 500 rounds a day. :)
 
Why couldn't we do this? OP's test is only about shooting bullets. No need to drop the thing out of a plane. Anyone who owns one of these pistols could log a round count and stop cleaning/oiling the gun until it failed.

I don't have anything on the list, but I would put my G19 to the test. :) It's already put close to 1k down the pipe since its last cleaning. I wish I'd kept track, cuz it feels like such a waste to start over, lol.
 
Don't get them too dirty....

Let's just talk guns again.

Has anyone paid attention to HK decocker comparing to the Sig Sauer? I find HK a little more likely to give in (wear out) than Sig Sauer's. I just not very comfortable with that little piece of metal bar being slammed over and over again when decocking for some reason. May be it won't ever wear out, but I have that nagging feeling that one day it might.
 
el Godfather said:
Don't get them too dirty....

Let's just talk guns again.

Has anyone paid attention to HK decocker comparing to the Sig Sauer? I find HK a little more likely to give in (wear out) than Sig Sauer's. I just not very comfortable with that little piece of metal bar being slammed over and over again when decocking for some reason. May be it won't ever wear out, but I have that nagging feeling that one day it might.
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If we are going with just a straight shooting test then the decocker won't be used. But the decocker is not one of the pieces that I would worry about failing first anyways.
 
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