CZ BREN 805s are coming in!

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Even at $2k msrp it's cheaper than a SCAR.

Awesome! Truly these are wonderful times.

BSW
 
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It's always nice to have choices, I'm not sure another $2k AR is the choice I want though.
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Then you're in luck, cuz that ain't no kind of AR. The only thing the BREN has in common with an AR is the caliber and the magazines.

BSW
 
bikemutt said:
And a crap battle trigger.
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Sorry, but $2000 can get you one hell of an AR-15.

It's just another cool, exotic foreign battle rifle that will have it's fair share of fanboys. But when the dust settles, the AR will still be here, rockin' it. :cool:
 
For what it's worth if you shoot for fun then this is another fun option that will probably fall into the sort of affordable realm.

If it's all about tactical tool then any decent AR15 is all you need.

Handguns are similar. It's hard to justify with empirical evidence anything but a Glock 17 or 19. Point is options are fantastic and fun to boot for us folks who shoot and own for fun as much as serious social reasons.

I for one love this thing.
 
Cooldill said:
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Sorry, but $2000 can get you one hell of an AR-15.

It's just another cool, exotic foreign battle rifle that will have it's fair share of fanboys. But when the dust settles, the AR will still be here, rockin' it. :cool:
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I agree, and like it or not, I think this really shows the true status of the AR15 in America currently. I think it'll be a long, long time before a "new design" rifle will knock it from its throne.

Anyway, carry on. New rifle with a "two ARs" price tag. Cool deal.
 
bikemutt said:
And a crap battle trigger.
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Really, when did you try a BREN? What else did you like or dislike about it? I handled one at SHOT 2015, and the trigger seemed OK to me, but I'm not a high speed/low drag operator, just a fat old Navy vet from when we used M-14s. :) I didn't get to the range that day - did you go to SHOT 2016 and try the BREN 805 Carbine on Media Range Day?

A couple of people who shot it said it was the smoothest shooting rifle they had ever tried;

https://www.full30.com/video/9e3d3001e5c2484686723e9adcedbcb5

...so I look forward to see if that's true, and you're right, they really will have to be top notch to beat out the ubiquitous 53 year old AR-15. Hopefully it won't have the one thing that turned me off the AR when I shot the M-16A1 back in 1984 - that dadgum SPROINNNNGGG in my ear from every shot. Hated that, never picked up another AR style rifle after that. Nothing wrong with the rifle at all, wouldn't have survived in military service this long if it wasn't reliable, durable, and accurate, it just didn't fit ME, that's all. ;) What is it that one guy said, the AR-15 is the Barbie Doll for men, with all the ten thousand accessories that are available to dress it up with? You don't get that kind of support if your product sucks, that is for darn certain.

Bobson said:
New rifle with a "two ARs" price tag. Cool deal.
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Would be nice to get it down cheaper over time, and if the 806 comes in, that might happen,(less machining), but for now, same tag as a Tavor and less than a SCAR.

cooldill said:
t's just another cool, exotic foreign battle rifle that will have it's fair share of fanboys. But when the dust settles, the AR will still be here, rockin' it.
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Never said it wouldn't, after all, the AR-15 qualifies for curio and relic status being for sale for so long.

Guys, I never said the BREN 805 will be a "threat" to the AR-15, or its legion of followers, or the zillions of aftermarket parts and manufacturers, just saying that this particular rifle, that I, personally, have been interested in for some time, having actually handled one, is finally coming in to the US. :) Same as I like some other exotics like the almost vaporware KelTec 308 RFB, and the oddball HK vP70z. ;) It's all personal likes/dislikes. Have a great day, and if I manage to acquire one, I'll post up photos and videos for those who want to see, or want to throw stones. :D
 
cslinger said:
Handguns are similar. It's hard to justify with empirical evidence anything but a Glock 17 or 19.
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Sure I can - I can't stand Glocks. Nothing wrong with the gun, can't stand the grip ergonomics or the trigger. Qualify Expert or Distinguished Expert every year with a Glock 17, but I won't own one. I carry a proven military service sidearm daily, but I only carry Glock when my employer insists on it. But then again, this post was about rifles, not handguns. :D
 
Really like it, and so far with reviews I've seen are all positive. not sure how many here actually handled one and did a review to justify its price. Obviously price may not be in reach for some, I wonder if I was to get one all my AR Fanboy friends might turn away with their noses in the air....it's all part of the game....man up and no children allowed to play
 
It is, isn't it. ;) That's OK, that's the beauty if the diversity of the firearms word - somewhere is the perfect rifle/handgun combo for everyone, even if it is a Caracano and a Nambu! :what::p
If I can lay hands on one, I'll do at least two videos. If...:)
 
Sorry, but $2000 can get you one hell of an AR-15.
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And I would be the one saying, "You spent $2,000 and its just an AR like everyone else has?". Don't get me wrong, I have no interest in the new BREN, just mild curiosity, but if your about to drop 2k on any rifle, it sure as hell better be more than just "nice" AR. Just my opinion of course, spend your money as you see fit.

It's just another cool, exotic foreign battle rifle that will have it's fair share of fanboys. But when the dust settles, the AR will still be here, rockin' it.
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Well I don't think any new rifle, BREN, ARX100, Tavor, you name it, will raise up enough "dust" for anyone to get the wrong idea that it will displace the AR.
 
Anybody else notice the weight? That's 8 lbs. before you attach the first accessory.

May be a great gun, but that's more than I'd be willing to hump.
 
Pretty much everything semi auto is heavier than a stripped (no rail, no fancy buttstock) AR. Compare to and AR with comparable rail setup and folding/collapsible stock to the BREN and the weight will be closer.

Plus if you're left handed or want a folding stock you're out of luck with an AR w/o mods. Now whether that's worth the weight and cost penalty is a choice for the purchaser.

BSW
 
Speddo66, I'm a fat old man, not a high speed/low drag "operator". I "hump" my guns to the shooting bench and back. MAYBE the BREN will go out with me to go hogging or coyote hunting, who knows, but 99% of my shooting time with it would be at the range. Even a fat old out of shape government employee guy like me can "hump" 9 pounds of rifle from the vehicle to the bench. Actual distance shown below. :cool:

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On the other hand, I will never ever forget SFC Johnson screaming at us with our Springfield 1903A3s as we high school JROTC cadets were learning what "full packs" meant, "The Springfield rifle weighs eight point six nine pounds combat loaded! After 20 miles the decimal point disappears!" He was right.

GelGoog - the 806 doesn't really have the same look, does it. I'm told it's a very nice rifle and the Indian Army is looking at it in 7.62x39mm to replace what they have now, but the look is...well, gah. :D

I'm liking the BREN and hoping it does find a niche, like the Scorpion has done.
 
I'm no youngster, I humped about 10 lbs. of M-14 when I did my time in Uncle Sam's fitness club. I prefer my 5 lbs. of Rossi 92 or 6 1/2 lbs. of AR if I'm walking somewhere.

Yes, weight increases exponentially with distance. :rolleyes:

I enjoy new guns, but I'd prefer to replace an existing gun with something that might fit my needs better. I don't believe that one would.
 
Since I have no ARs, and don't really want one, this does fit a "hole" in my "collection", a semi-auto 5.56mm rifle. :) Tried the Mini-14 twice, neither one would shoot straight past 100 yards - not saying YOURS isn't a tack driver, but neither of MINE would do it for me. This one looks like it might be able to do what I want, plus have that "underdog" thing I like so well. :D

PS, I used the M-14 in my military days as well, great rifle. Terrible to clear compartments with, which is one thing we used it for, but it was a great rifle.
 
I like it. I've handled the pistol version and liked that, too. The Czechs always seem to have a unique take on a particular firearm type and that interests me.

Unfortunately, at that price, I doubt I'll ever do more than handle one.
 
I like it. I've handled the pistol version and liked that, too.
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I picked it up at a show once... "Holy crap is this thing heavy for a "pistol". " was my only thought.
 
Handguns are similar. It's hard to justify with empirical evidence anything but a Glock 17 or 19.
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take one to a Bullseye competition and get back with us...
 
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