Glock 42 issue, any ideas??

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So, last week I traded in my Kimber for a G42. In the trade I ordered a set of Trijicon nights sights and had them installed Saturday by my LGS. Everything looked great, the sight picture was magnificent and everything seemed perfect. I go out and shoot three magazines to see if any adjustments need made. Shooting a bit left so I take it back in and have him tap it to the left. Well, before I made it to the store I noticed that the front post was loose. I don't mean loose as in it took considerable and deliberate force to move it, I mean you jiggle the pistole and the damn thing almost spins around! Great, guess they didn't use any loctite. I take it back in, have him loctite it and adjust the rear sights.
He seems a bit annoyed with the fact that I was back in to adjust it (even after he said, "Go shoot and bring it back in if anything needs any adjustments.") and after he loctites the front post and aligns it to my satisfaction, he quickly threw it all back together and racked the slide in one fail swoop.
All seems well enough and I head home. I get home and rack the slide and kind of felt like it was grinding once the slide reached near the end of the rails (if that makes sense?) Almost like a ribbed piece of metal is contacting a flat piece of metal. Seems like something that would be like the spring is rubbing on something else. Ok, I field strip it and inspect all parts that I could think of that could be rubbing and don't really feel much in the way of any type of burring or anything like that.
I'm not sure what to do here. I'm afraid to fire the pistol because I feel like if something IS making contact that it could sheer off and cause catastrophic failure possibly. Do I take it back? I feel like I'm in the store every other day and I don't want to piss them off or annoy them, but at the same time I feel like SOMEthing has happened while they had my pistol. Do I ask them to look into only for them to tell me "nothing is wrong, you're imagining things." or do I just go out and fire it a few times and see what happens? I'm really kind of baffled here. I've about had it with this string of bad luck I've seemed to come across here lately after the squib load with the Kimber and now this. :banghead:
 
Absolutely take it back. Be sure you express that is their 3rd attempt at making it right. I went through a similar experience this year with my Glock 17. I ended up borrowing the Glock sight tool from the dealer. After a frustrating year my glock shoots better than I ever imagined. Hang in there.

The worst part about my experience was people asking me why I cared so much, blaming me, and calling it a combat gun. It's now on. I still wish I kept the factory sights.
 
Why don't you just pop the slide off and take a look at it.

I seem to remember that it is possible to get the recoil spring assy in my G42
installed a little off kilter so it will drag on the slide. It only takes a second to fix.
 
SoonerMedic said:
Shooting a bit left so I take it back in and have him tap it to the left.
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If your Glock was shooting left and you had him tap the rear sight to the left, it's going to shoot even further to the left now.

You need to move the rear sight n the direction that you want the bullet's impact point to move.

There's not much to a Glock. I have a hard time imaging anyone able to legally buy a pistol who would be incapable of disassembling one far enough (basic cleaning level) to see if something is rubbing.
 
45_auto said:
If your Glock was shooting left and you had him tap the rear sight to the left, it's going to shoot even further to the left now.

You need to move the rear sight n the direction that you want the bullet's impact point to move.

There's not much to a Glock. I have a hard time imaging anyone able to legally buy a pistol who would be incapable of disassembling one far enough (basic cleaning level) to see if something is rubbing.
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Not sure if you read my entire post....I did break it down and look at it. No need for your smart reply.
 
I agree on the recoil spring assembly alignment might be off. I had the same problem when I first got my G42. Just make sure you have it installed right.

Hope it works out for you because I think the G42 is a fine pistol.
 
Put a straight edge on the slide by the rails to ensure they didnt just chunk it in a vice to drift the sight. Other than that, it could really only be the front sight bolt that could contact anything if he used the wrong type/size. It would still have to be very wrong to touch the barrel..
 
Take it back. If the store is the kind of place that will get pissy with you for bringing it back, it's probably not the kind of place you want working on your guns, anyway.

You paid for a service, it's not annoying to expect them to do it properly.
 
tarosean said:
Put a straight edge on the slide by the rails to ensure they didnt just chunk it in a vice to drift the sight. Other than that, it could really only be the front sight bolt that could contact anything if he used the wrong type/size. It would still have to be very wrong to touch the barrel..
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Well, I would imagine that Trijicon would send the proper sized bolt? I imagine that the only thing it could be is the spring....I'm not really sure.
 
The spring can go on, and not be exactly right. Ive done it a couple of times, but it would not let the gun go back together the way I had it. I suppose you could have it out of line just a little, and its giving you fits.

Id pull the slide off and take the spring off, and reinstall it. Just make sure it is in place properly.

If the front sight screw isnt tight, the sight will be loose. If its hanging down enough to contact the barrel, something is wrong, especially if the sight is tight.

Ive had front sights come off, and the screw stayed in place, even after I kept shooting without the sight.

My experience with the front sights is, they need to have loctite on them if you want them to stay put. Even then, they can still come loose.

As was mentioned, if you want the impact to move to the right, you need to drift the sight to the right. Shooting left for a right handed shooter is often a trigger related thing with the Glocks. If it keeps up, you may want to try and get a little more of your finger into the trigger.

All of mine do shoot left, no matter where I put my finger, so I just drift them right and the problem is solved.
 
AK103K said:
The spring can go on, and not be exactly right. Ive done it a couple of times, but it would not let the gun go back together the way I had it. I suppose you could have it out of line just a little, and its giving you fits.

Id pull the slide off and take the spring off, and reinstall it. Just make sure it is in place properly.

If the front sight screw isnt tight, the sight will be loose. If its hanging down enough to contact the barrel, something is wrong, especially if the sight is tight.

Ive had front sights come off, and the screw stayed in place, even after I kept shooting without the sight.

My experience with the front sights is, they need to have loctite on them if you want them to stay put. Even then, they can still come loose.

As was mentioned, if you want the impact to move to the right, you need to drift the sight to the right. Shooting left for a right handed shooter is often a trigger related thing with the Glocks. If it keeps up, you may want to try and get a little more of your finger into the trigger.

All of mine do shoot left, no matter where I put my finger, so I just drift them right and the problem is solved.
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I'll take it apart again tomorrow morning and try and reassemble it with gentle hands, but I honestly don't think that's the issue.

The screw under the sight isn't making contact with the barrel because it's not a smooth feeling contact, it's ribbed like the spring is rubbing. Also, when I had the front post readjusted they did apply loctite, I watched him do it.

The issue of shooting left isn't what this thread was created to address, but the info is appreciated. I will probably be able to move it back to the right myself with a punch and hammer. I noticed it takes some considerable force to move it...
 
Shooting left is normal for new Glock shooters. The trigger will improve with age, and you'll get more used to it. Watch your technique.

The recoil spring assembly makes exactly the feeling you describe. Pull it and hose it down with lube, reassemble. It's likely not a big deal.
 
If a shop you have purchased from is not willing to make you a happy customer, You need to find another shop, I run my own business the customer has to feel you care, Even if its the customers fault, I do what ever is needed to resolve the issue and make them Happy, In the end it pays off, We have a shop here in town the locals hate it their only business is new people and GI's who have just come to town, That's their only business hardly any repeat customers, They are real dicks to deal with and after they sell you that high priced toy, They could care less if there is a problem
 
greyghost01 said:
If a shop you have purchased from is not willing to make you a happy customer, You need to find another shop, I run my own business the customer has to feel you care, Even if its the customers fault, I do what ever is needed to resolve the issue and make them Happy, In the end it pays off, We have a shop here in town the locals hate it their only business is new people and GI's who have just come to town, That's their only business hardly any repeat customers, They are real dicks to deal with and after they sell you that high priced toy, They could care less if there is a problem
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I agree with you. I will say, though, that I can be an impatient customer. If I order something I will call and kind of pester them about if my purchase is in yet or if they've heard anything. If they give me a date, I will wait until that date before I call back or go in. BUT, in this instance, I did go in about 10 minutes before they closed to have the adjustments made. The only reason I went in at that time is because, if the gunsmith wasn't busy then I knew he could take care of my problem in about 5 minutes or so.

An update....so I field stripped it when I got home and reassembled. I honestly didn't even take the spring out before I reassembled it and for whatever reason it stopped the issue. Not sure what the reason would be for that....
 
What can happen, the spring isnt seated all the way. Im guessing that was the case, and working the slide or taking it back down, sorted it out.

Next time you have it apart, and reassemble, just make sure its fully in place.
 
I don't recommend using a punch and hammer to drift night sights. You can break the tritium vials if you hammer too hard. You need to use a sight drift vise tool. If your rear sight was that tight he should have dressed the bottom of the sight just a bit so it would slide in the dovetail a little easier and use some lube on the underside. Most sights come oversized because not all dovetails are cut to the same spec.

I have installed many night sight sets for customers and told them the same thing. I always start with the rear sight centered. If it shoots one direction or another I will correct it free of charge but 80% of customers are happy right out of the gate. Sounds like the shop you are dealing with doesn't want to make you a long term customer. If you frequent there and make regular purchases they should just about bend over backwards to help you out. Customer service will make or break a brick and mortar store these days and is what sets one apart from the rest.
 
What the previous guys said, x 10^9. The very reason why a brick and mortar store gets to exist these days is because they offer service where a CDNN can't. If they act like they're doing you some kind of a favor, you need to find a new retailer.
 
I should say that the store owner and others there are always very friendly and help me above and beyond. This was a one time incident and I think it's possible I may have just taken things wrong or misinterpreted his actions.
 
Do you have a 9 pound trigger in your Glock 42? Because mine was about 9 pounds and felt like a cheap staple gun until I installed a Ghost Edge connector. I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with my G42 in stock form but with the new connector it shoots like a whole new gun and I still have the factory plastic sights on it.
 
Both of my 42's have a slightly heavier trigger in them, but nothing detrimental. They are still very easy to shoot well with.

I shot this with my first, checking/adjusting zero at 10 yards. Each group has multiple mags in it. They started to open up when I was getting bored and started to speed things up. :)

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Don't know how heavy my G42 trigger is, but I would not want it any lighter for pocket carry.

Even though it is a little on the heavy side I still shoot it better than I do my P238.
 
Rubber_Duck said:
Do you have a 9 pound trigger in your Glock 42? Because mine was about 9 pounds and felt like a cheap staple gun until I installed a Ghost Edge connector. I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with my G42 in stock form but with the new connector it shoots like a whole new gun and I still have the factory plastic sights on it.
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How does this effect the manufacturer's warranty?
 
33564 Glock Connector

Since the introduction of the G42 and G43, ~7/16, Glock came out with its own #33564 connector which drops the pull down to the advertised 5.5 pound area. There is minor, if any, difference in feel from Ghost's "Edge" connector.

Glock has been sending this connector out at no charge to Certified Glock Armorer's who provide a serial number of where that connector is going, or it can merely be bought from places like here: http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1218007&CAT=705
 
L-2,
Have you actually compared the Ghost Edge against the revised Glock factory connector in a G42 in person?

Many Glock 42s, especially early ones (mine is from 2/2014) had triggers that measured over 9 pounds on a Lyman trigger pull scale and it sounds like the revised Glock connector is merely giving the G42 the 5.5 pound trigger it should've had in the first place. I haven't compared the two side by side but I would imagine the Ghost Edge is still an improvement if not in weight then at least in feel over a stock Glock trigger.
 
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