The 10/22 I want. Recommendations?

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Parts swapping on a 10/22 is a favorite pastime of lots of guys. Many people go so far as to "build" and improve a Ruger 10/22, that they buy an aftermarket action. By the time they get finished with their build there may not be a Ruger part left on the gun.
 
ColtPythonElite said:
Parts swapping on a 10/22 is a favorite pastime of lots of guys. Many people go so far as to "build" and improve a Ruger 10/22, that they buy an aftermarket action. By the time they get finished with their build there may not be a Ruger part left on the gun.
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No problem at all with that....it is another barbie doll for guys....and I can see how it would be fun.

That said in original trim it is not the bee's knees many seem to think it is.....buy it going in you are going to do this or that....cool, fine, more power to you....buy it thinking you can take it out of the box and have it be serviceable.....in 2 out of 2 I have not had that experience.

You may be thinking heck if I bought one that that was a lemon I would stay away from it like anything....well you would be right....but you see there are so many fan boi's out there that I just had to get one that was built on hangover monday after the stuper bowl.....so I tried again....nope dud....then over on RFC I start to learn the real truth....well that extractor is not that great just upgrade it to this and you will be fine.....it is only $7.....wait a sec...you mean to tell me I have to spend more to make the stupid gun even work....NO THANK YOU.
 
Reliability could be ammo related. My 10/22 loves CCI ammo. Whether it's Blazers, Mini Mags, Tactical or Standard Velocity, the thing keeps shooting.

Federal ammo, not so much.
 
I have one 10/22. I bought it almost 30 years ago. In all fairness, it functions fine. I never have had any reliability issues. Accuracy is nothing impressive. Maybe 2" at 50 yards with better ammo. I basically describe it as beer can accurate. The trigger pull is horrible. The stock is kinda ill fitting to me. The gun basically works as advertised, bit is nothing to get excited about. It is by far the first of my .22 rifles I would let go if I had to.
 
CraigC - I'm liking the bolt handle on your 10/22s there - what kind/brand is it? I also have tech sights on my 10/22 takedown, like you have on your 10/22s there - I really like them on mine.
 
readyeddy said:
Reliability could be ammo related. My 10/22 loves CCI ammo. Whether it's Blazers, Mini Mags, Tactical or Standard Velocity, the thing keeps shooting.

Federal ammo, not so much.
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That was the first thing I tried....from the most rot gut stuff up to Eley...nothing would run....it became a quest...I would clean trot down to the shooting area....I bet I would have pounded the thing against a tree if I actually could not shoot on my property....and try to run a box in it....wash rinse repeat....finally I broke down and started tossing parts at it and finally it does work....not the point however....you should not have to toss aftermarket parts at something to make it work.....lets see this new car I just bought does not run more then 5 miles without over heating.....I guess I should just man up and toss a new engine in it.

Only Ruger 10/22 can get by with this garbage.
 
CraigC said:
Sorry but this is utter BS, bordering on trolling. Are you one of those intellectually lazy types who had a problem with one rifle and used that as an excuse to condemn 53yrs of Ruger rifles? If what you said was actually true, then it would be the only junk rifle that thousands of people use as the basis for a custom rifle.

They function just fine out of the box. People spend money on them to make them better. The fact that they do does not imply that there's anything wrong with them out of the box. It implies that the 10/22 is a better basis for modification than any other semi-auto. For one can spend a little money and have a semi-auto that shoots better than your precious CZ. Mine does, circles, in fact.

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It is trolling.

He could have possibly had 2 bad examples but all 3 I've had have been perfectly fine out of the box as have been millions of them. Literally, millions.

Millions of good ones out of the box surely trump his 2.

They are also endeared and largely praised as a good, durable, reliable, and customizable rifle on RFC which is counter to what he portrayed.
 
fpgt72 said:
Man you can sure tell you have not made any changes to that 10/22....tell me are there any ruger parts left on that tacticool rig?
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As I already said, it is mechanically stock, except for the hammer. It worked 100% for 15yrs before being rebuilt as it is now. Nothing added to it to make it function. Only things added to it to make it more purpose-specific. I've never spent money on a 10/22 to make it run. Only to make it better.


fpgt72 said:
I have been stupid enough to buy two of the stupid things....and both did not run for anything without tossing more money at them.....sometimes as simple as an extractor or other nickel or dime part, but they did need something to make them run.....people spend money to make them go....people buy them because of the huge after market support for them....nope I will go to my grave saying this bill ruger pile of junk is one of the worst automatic 22's in the world....but build it cheap enough so people will not mind shelling out another $30 to have a gun that will run a box of ammo and you can sell buckets of them.....
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Anybody with half a lick of sense would have to know how statistically insignificant your experience is. Do you really think that millions of people are spending money on their 10/22's just to make them functional? No, that is absurd. The whole aftermarket was borne out of the need for a better competition rifle. Clark Custom started the craze building these rifles for competitive use. They found the 10/22 was the perfect basis for a custom semi-auto .22. So your whole notion that the aftermarket only exists to make a "junk" rifle functional is complete nonsense.


danez71 said:
It is trolling.

He could have possibly had 2 bad examples but all 3 I've had have been perfectly fine out of the box as have been millions of them. Literally, millions.

Millions of good ones out of the box surely trump his 2.

They are also endeared and largely praised as a good, durable, reliable, and customizable rifle on RFC which is counter to what he portrayed.
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Exactly!
 
Lots of replies. Thanks guys.

I may just have my gunsmith see about fluting my bull barrel, then drilling for front and dovetailing for a Mark III rear, then put fiber optics all around. Now sure how much lighter a good fluting will make the barrel, but it would probably be better then spending more money on a new rifle. Mine has done quite well for many years. Few if any issues. Not sure how old it is.....Probably not that old, but does have the aluminum lower receiver.
 
Have a look at Kidd and see if anything floats your boat. They make fluted bulls and the accuracy will be yours to decide.

My 10/22 experience is limited to 3, all reasonable shooters out of the box and none with any functional problems (to which I'll add: I clean them). I did modify my son's TD bolt, extractor, and trigger pull, but that was purely labor and no aftermarket. Also statistically insignificant sampling but my experience.
 
I like Kidd stuff [have their extended bolt release], but they don't offer iron sights. Wish they did.
 
Looks like what I'm wanting to do might be rather pricey. I'd have to get a basic silver takedown,....change out the stock with the Magpul X-22, and get a sighted bull barrel from Tactical Solutions. Then I'd be stuck with parts I don't need [stock, barrel, whatever else I may be overlooking]. Could end up being an over $800 prospect. :-/ But, oh well,.... it's what I'm wanting.
 
Magnum Research Magnumlite has a .92" graphite barrel, very light, very accurate. I hate light barrels for precision bench shooting, so I traded mine for a Kidd and never looked back. Now every part of that MR has been replaced except for the receiver, and for just $1700 invested I now have a Ruger 10/22 target clone that shoots every bit as good as my $100 Marlin 795.
 
AKElroy said:
Magnum Research Magnumlite has a .92" graphite barrel, very light, very accurate. I hate light barrels for precision bench shooting, so I traded mine for a Kidd and never looked back. Now every part of that MR has been replaced except for the receiver, and for just $1700 invested I now have a Ruger 10/22 target clone that shoots every bit as good as my $100 Marlin 795.
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That KIDD barrel should shoot circles around the Marlin and run with any sub-$1000 boltguns, if not better.
 
the svt somebody else already posted was the ultimate accurate 10/22.
I guess they call it a sporter now.

I cant get into the 10/22 because the receiver is way too big for a 22 in my mind. They designed it big like that to mimic the feel of their pistol caliber semi carbine.
But when you get used to a nice slim, 795 or browning auto....
 
The wide body is what allows a flush fitting 10rd rotary magazine. Note how everybody else's five shot protrudes below the receiver?
 
mshootnit said:
the svt somebody else already posted was the ultimate accurate 10/22.
I guess they call it a sporter now.

I cant get into the 10/22 because the receiver is way too big for a 22 in my mind. They designed it big like that to mimic the feel of their pistol caliber semi carbine.
But when you get used to a nice slim, 795 or browning auto....
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Except didn't the 10/22 come out long before the PC9 and PC4?

If anything, I think they were maybe following the M4 -> Mini 14 -> 10/22 look.


I actually like the wide body. The Marlin is svelte for sure.... but imo, its too svelte. As in, to the point of it feeling like it's for pre-teen kids.
 
fpgt72 said:
A bigger hunk of junk does not exist over the 10/22....you must spend money on them to make it a functional rifle.
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fpgt72 said:
people spend money to make them go....people buy them because of the huge after market support for them....nope I will go to my grave saying this bill ruger pile of junk is one of the worst automatic 22's in the world....but build it cheap enough so people will not mind shelling out another $30 to have a gun that will run a box of ammo and you can sell buckets of them.....
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Honestly, that's pretty much the opposite of what is true. The 10/22 is hands-down the most reliable .22 semi-auto rifle that uses a detachable magazine. That's why there's so much aftermarket support: The rifles are super-popular because they work so well, and because of that popularity companies make lots of extra stuff for them. That extra stuff is often cool to have, but it's not necessary for them to run; 10/22s run great right out of the box.

Maybe you happened to get two different 10/22s that were subpar. It's an unlikely occurrence, but not at all impossible considering the sheer number of them that have been made. Every company puts out bad products from time to time, but your bad experience doesn't negate the last 50 years of the 10/22 being the go-to detachable-magazine-fed semi-auto .22 rifle when it comes to reliability.
 
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The Marlin Model 60 far and away outsells the 10/22 but after trying to get one running at the range with no experience prior, I'd happily fork over twice the cash for a Ruger semi-auto. I love my Marlin bolt actions though.

Reliably wise I've heard it both ways.
 
ColtPythonElite said:
Theohazard said:
The 10/22 is hands-down the most reliable .22 semi-auto ever made.
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I think that is debatable and probably by Marlin Model 60 fans, among others.
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OK, you're right that the Marlin is pretty darn reliable, also. I was thinking only of semi-autos with detachable magazines, but I should have actually written that. I'll go back and edit my post.

The 10/22 magazine design is one of the things that makes it more reliable than many other detachable-magazine-fed semi-auto designs where the ammo is stacked vertically in the magazine. Obviously, the Marlin doesn't have this problem, as it has a fixed tubular magazine.
 
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